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ARM architecture updates in Linux Kernel 6.11 include new features and optimizations for ARM-based systems.

ARM architecture updates in Linux Kernel 6.11 include new features and optimizations for ARM-based systems.

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KingJaydxn
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12-31-2016, 05:19 PM
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Search for a detailed overview of ARM updates in the latest 6.11 kernel release. Look into discussions around Linus Torvalds' efforts to enhance Linux support for ARM, especially on the Ampere 128-core desktop. Investigate whether ARM instruction handling will become more adaptive and how this might benefit MIPS, LSA, RISC, or MISC processors. Aim for information that shows Linux can run smoothly on new processors without lengthy updates.
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KingJaydxn
12-31-2016, 05:19 PM #1

Search for a detailed overview of ARM updates in the latest 6.11 kernel release. Look into discussions around Linus Torvalds' efforts to enhance Linux support for ARM, especially on the Ampere 128-core desktop. Investigate whether ARM instruction handling will become more adaptive and how this might benefit MIPS, LSA, RISC, or MISC processors. Aim for information that shows Linux can run smoothly on new processors without lengthy updates.

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TeddyCoM
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01-14-2017, 05:36 AM
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Check the Linux 6.11 ARM64 updates and the kernel mailing lists for additional details. You can find the merge request link at the end of the first reference. Mailing list info: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/
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TeddyCoM
01-14-2017, 05:36 AM #2

Check the Linux 6.11 ARM64 updates and the kernel mailing lists for additional details. You can find the merge request link at the end of the first reference. Mailing list info: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/

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yan03
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01-14-2017, 08:21 AM
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The idea of a universal "it just works" solution for ARM seems challenging. Each SoC is customized, requiring tailored optimization, which limits standardization. Running on the basic instruction set might work technically, but performance would suffer without leveraging the device-specific capabilities. Apple Silicon is another case—its boot process and security are entirely unique, even its memory management differs significantly. This mirrors how mobile devices typically rely on a fixed kernel version, optimized for their hardware and drivers, which can cause compatibility headaches when switching to different systems.
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yan03
01-14-2017, 08:21 AM #3

The idea of a universal "it just works" solution for ARM seems challenging. Each SoC is customized, requiring tailored optimization, which limits standardization. Running on the basic instruction set might work technically, but performance would suffer without leveraging the device-specific capabilities. Apple Silicon is another case—its boot process and security are entirely unique, even its memory management differs significantly. This mirrors how mobile devices typically rely on a fixed kernel version, optimized for their hardware and drivers, which can cause compatibility headaches when switching to different systems.

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MiloDeEchte
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01-14-2017, 09:13 AM
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Ashai Linux is nearing completion in leveraging Apple Silicon, though development will face challenges. The new chips are emerging with limited documentation and proprietary restrictions from Apple. Apple Silicon seems tailored almost to its own design, making it distinct. Despite significant RISC enhancements in the latest kernel release, progress remains uneven.
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MiloDeEchte
01-14-2017, 09:13 AM #4

Ashai Linux is nearing completion in leveraging Apple Silicon, though development will face challenges. The new chips are emerging with limited documentation and proprietary restrictions from Apple. Apple Silicon seems tailored almost to its own design, making it distinct. Despite significant RISC enhancements in the latest kernel release, progress remains uneven.

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Greyhowler
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01-14-2017, 03:24 PM
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Consider checking the merged patch mailing lists, follow phoronix for updates (like the penguim already shared), or monitor this other platform for summaries of new versions and changes per ISA. Do you mean that? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Torvalds-R...Const-6.11 What’s your take? ARM as an ISA is well supported, ranking second only to x86 in support. That’s more about the hardware than ARM itself. Each ARM device needs a DTS for peripherals and its own patches. Intel and AMD release updates well before product releases. Qcom has been handling upstream work slowly. Apple hasn’t contributed much, so patches come mainly from Asahi and individual developers. You usually can run ARM-based SBCs with Linux smoothly. We can do that too—see Ampere products, many SBCs, Graviton from AWS, etc. The main challenge remains peripherals. With servers and x86, ACPI works well, but mainstream laptops lack it, requiring each device to have its own DTS file. Booting is the simplest part from AS, thanks to open APIs and some open-source efforts to ease Asahi’s workload. That’s the key issue for these devices.
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Greyhowler
01-14-2017, 03:24 PM #5

Consider checking the merged patch mailing lists, follow phoronix for updates (like the penguim already shared), or monitor this other platform for summaries of new versions and changes per ISA. Do you mean that? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Torvalds-R...Const-6.11 What’s your take? ARM as an ISA is well supported, ranking second only to x86 in support. That’s more about the hardware than ARM itself. Each ARM device needs a DTS for peripherals and its own patches. Intel and AMD release updates well before product releases. Qcom has been handling upstream work slowly. Apple hasn’t contributed much, so patches come mainly from Asahi and individual developers. You usually can run ARM-based SBCs with Linux smoothly. We can do that too—see Ampere products, many SBCs, Graviton from AWS, etc. The main challenge remains peripherals. With servers and x86, ACPI works well, but mainstream laptops lack it, requiring each device to have its own DTS file. Booting is the simplest part from AS, thanks to open APIs and some open-source efforts to ease Asahi’s workload. That’s the key issue for these devices.

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Purplee_Kiwii
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01-16-2017, 02:38 PM
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I mean having full authority over every device on the laptop, including the mouse, keyboard, and trackpad—those are solid features. The *goatedpenguin lol.*
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Purplee_Kiwii
01-16-2017, 02:38 PM #6

I mean having full authority over every device on the laptop, including the mouse, keyboard, and trackpad—those are solid features. The *goatedpenguin lol.*

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Tijntjuuh
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01-16-2017, 03:43 PM
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It stems from the absence of a unified approach to integrating logic across the field.
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Tijntjuuh
01-16-2017, 03:43 PM #7

It stems from the absence of a unified approach to integrating logic across the field.

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Kaisetsu
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01-18-2017, 03:22 AM
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Apple doesn't have a typical contract. Laws might be able to address this, but you can't set rules for something as unique as an apple.
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Kaisetsu
01-18-2017, 03:22 AM #8

Apple doesn't have a typical contract. Laws might be able to address this, but you can't set rules for something as unique as an apple.

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trj55
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01-18-2017, 11:45 AM
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Peripherals encompass more than just keyboards and mice—they include components like accelerators, PCIe interfaces, USB ports, GPUs, and similar technologies. Each demands its own drivers. The same applies to other ARM laptops on the market. ACPI functions somewhat well in Windows environments, while device trees dominate Linux systems. However, creating these files often falls to individual developers on a per-device basis, especially when peripheral drivers are also needed. You might see examples of contributors submitting device tree configurations in the aarch64-laptops GitHub repository. This discussion isn't about Apple; it's unrelated to their products. It seems you're questioning the current state of ARM laptop support. In reality, ASUS MacBook Air models currently offer the strongest ARM platform support, particularly with Asahi integration.
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trj55
01-18-2017, 11:45 AM #9

Peripherals encompass more than just keyboards and mice—they include components like accelerators, PCIe interfaces, USB ports, GPUs, and similar technologies. Each demands its own drivers. The same applies to other ARM laptops on the market. ACPI functions somewhat well in Windows environments, while device trees dominate Linux systems. However, creating these files often falls to individual developers on a per-device basis, especially when peripheral drivers are also needed. You might see examples of contributors submitting device tree configurations in the aarch64-laptops GitHub repository. This discussion isn't about Apple; it's unrelated to their products. It seems you're questioning the current state of ARM laptop support. In reality, ASUS MacBook Air models currently offer the strongest ARM platform support, particularly with Asahi integration.