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PappaMus
Junior Member
32
01-19-2016, 08:50 AM
#11
It's interesting how you chose three games from 2018 "to support a claim (and maybe nit-pick?) I suppose." In any case, you're overlooking the tiny percentages and the 0.1% extremes, which reveal much more about the game's overall performance than just the average frame rate. Also, it's clear you can focus on games that are CPU-friendly, especially those with older processors still running well, but for today's gaming and AAA titles those options are almost outdated... So it really comes down to your expectations and what you're looking for to play.
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PappaMus
01-19-2016, 08:50 AM #11

It's interesting how you chose three games from 2018 "to support a claim (and maybe nit-pick?) I suppose." In any case, you're overlooking the tiny percentages and the 0.1% extremes, which reveal much more about the game's overall performance than just the average frame rate. Also, it's clear you can focus on games that are CPU-friendly, especially those with older processors still running well, but for today's gaming and AAA titles those options are almost outdated... So it really comes down to your expectations and what you're looking for to play.

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Infernape555
Junior Member
22
01-19-2016, 05:49 PM
#12
"you are missing the 1% and 0,1% lows there"
Nobody with a low end/old system is going to worry about that.
"also there is no question you can cherry pick "cpu friendly" games in which even old quad or even dual core cpus are still doing fine , but for modern gaming and AAA titles those cpus are obsolete ..."
All of the games are after 2016 which was YOUR goalpost and they are all triple A and popular games, also these are the games that TOM's used to determine the best CPUs of that year.....
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Infernape555
01-19-2016, 05:49 PM #12

"you are missing the 1% and 0,1% lows there"
Nobody with a low end/old system is going to worry about that.
"also there is no question you can cherry pick "cpu friendly" games in which even old quad or even dual core cpus are still doing fine , but for modern gaming and AAA titles those cpus are obsolete ..."
All of the games are after 2016 which was YOUR goalpost and they are all triple A and popular games, also these are the games that TOM's used to determine the best CPUs of that year.....

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catrkill
Member
126
01-19-2016, 09:05 PM
#13
I'm pretty sure they'll take notice and "worry about it" once they start seeing sudden drops to 30FPS or below. This happens in certain situations or in CPU-heavy parts of the game (though on average the game runs at 80FPS, so they seem fine). It's just a rough guess, not a fixed rule. I could easily compare it to four older games where those two CPUs would struggle. Also, the G5600 and Ryzen 2200G were both launched in 2018, which makes sense they can handle games from that year. The 3550 is much older—released in Q2/2012—and I'm not sure what your point is. The G5600 and 2200G offer better single-core performance compared to the 3550, and the 2200G also excels in multithreaded tasks versus an older i5 3550. So if you're suggesting it's okay to pair the RTX 3090 with an i5 3550 or one of those CPUs and play the latest titles, no—definitely not. And nobody would do that anyway. Just like they wouldn't buy the RTX 3090 and pair it with a decade-old quad-core CPU to play games meant for kids...
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catrkill
01-19-2016, 09:05 PM #13

I'm pretty sure they'll take notice and "worry about it" once they start seeing sudden drops to 30FPS or below. This happens in certain situations or in CPU-heavy parts of the game (though on average the game runs at 80FPS, so they seem fine). It's just a rough guess, not a fixed rule. I could easily compare it to four older games where those two CPUs would struggle. Also, the G5600 and Ryzen 2200G were both launched in 2018, which makes sense they can handle games from that year. The 3550 is much older—released in Q2/2012—and I'm not sure what your point is. The G5600 and 2200G offer better single-core performance compared to the 3550, and the 2200G also excels in multithreaded tasks versus an older i5 3550. So if you're suggesting it's okay to pair the RTX 3090 with an i5 3550 or one of those CPUs and play the latest titles, no—definitely not. And nobody would do that anyway. Just like they wouldn't buy the RTX 3090 and pair it with a decade-old quad-core CPU to play games meant for kids...

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SophieThePie
Junior Member
40
01-25-2016, 09:24 PM
#14
Attempt to utilize the card and verify compatibility with your PSU. It doesn’t seem worthwhile to invest around 150 euros in a high-quality PSU for a 90 euro GPU.
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SophieThePie
01-25-2016, 09:24 PM #14

Attempt to utilize the card and verify compatibility with your PSU. It doesn’t seem worthwhile to invest around 150 euros in a high-quality PSU for a 90 euro GPU.

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teddybear116
Member
232
02-01-2016, 09:40 PM
#15
Your statement referred to performance tailored for the technology available before 2015/16, focusing on systems with four-core processors.
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teddybear116
02-01-2016, 09:40 PM #15

Your statement referred to performance tailored for the technology available before 2015/16, focusing on systems with four-core processors.

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NastyBastrd
Member
186
02-01-2016, 10:51 PM
#16
I just confirmed what I mentioned earlier.
My setup includes an i5 3550 (or preferably an i5 4690) and a GTX 1070, which makes for a solid choice when running older AAA games from the time when developers were focusing on strong dual and quad-core processors. Intel was leading the market with its i5/i7 quad-core chips, though there were only slight improvements in performance.
If you're looking to play modern titles, it's clear you'd need to consider the technology available at the time.
This period was most noticeable from the early 2010s until around 2017, when the last Intel quad-core flagship (7700K) was launched.
After that, the older quad-core i7 models mostly shifted into the i3 range within just three years, thanks to AMD's Ryzen CPUs forcing Intel to release more competitive options.
Of course, this doesn’t mean the 7700K could no longer run games—it was simply becoming outdated much faster than other Intel flagships from that era.
Interestingly, even in your chart, it’s obvious that the RTX 3090’s performance is roughly halved compared to those two older CPUs, especially when measured at 1440p resolution, where the CPU bottleneck is less apparent than in 1080p.
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NastyBastrd
02-01-2016, 10:51 PM #16

I just confirmed what I mentioned earlier.
My setup includes an i5 3550 (or preferably an i5 4690) and a GTX 1070, which makes for a solid choice when running older AAA games from the time when developers were focusing on strong dual and quad-core processors. Intel was leading the market with its i5/i7 quad-core chips, though there were only slight improvements in performance.
If you're looking to play modern titles, it's clear you'd need to consider the technology available at the time.
This period was most noticeable from the early 2010s until around 2017, when the last Intel quad-core flagship (7700K) was launched.
After that, the older quad-core i7 models mostly shifted into the i3 range within just three years, thanks to AMD's Ryzen CPUs forcing Intel to release more competitive options.
Of course, this doesn’t mean the 7700K could no longer run games—it was simply becoming outdated much faster than other Intel flagships from that era.
Interestingly, even in your chart, it’s obvious that the RTX 3090’s performance is roughly halved compared to those two older CPUs, especially when measured at 1440p resolution, where the CPU bottleneck is less apparent than in 1080p.

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kokushou
Member
60
02-02-2016, 06:44 AM
#17
So. Your advice is...
-Get a better PSU
-Upgrade CPU (not essential)
-Raising resolutions beyond 1080p
-Prefer older games over newer ones, like Doom eternal
-Don’t stress too much about bottlenecks, since a 15% won’t be obvious in most cases.
Are you right?
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kokushou
02-02-2016, 06:44 AM #17

So. Your advice is...
-Get a better PSU
-Upgrade CPU (not essential)
-Raising resolutions beyond 1080p
-Prefer older games over newer ones, like Doom eternal
-Don’t stress too much about bottlenecks, since a 15% won’t be obvious in most cases.
Are you right?

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SodaBubbles24
Member
145
02-02-2016, 06:53 AM
#18
I believe the 1070 offers a slight improvement over your 1050 at a minor cost. You might also consider moving to a Xeon processor, as your motherboard is compatible, which could boost performance in newer titles. These options are typically more affordable than i7 models.
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SodaBubbles24
02-02-2016, 06:53 AM #18

I believe the 1070 offers a slight improvement over your 1050 at a minor cost. You might also consider moving to a Xeon processor, as your motherboard is compatible, which could boost performance in newer titles. These options are typically more affordable than i7 models.

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nnerdragon
Junior Member
43
02-02-2016, 08:22 AM
#19
also you don´t have to purchase an expensive power supply, just something dependable.
resolution isn’t essential, though the GTX 1070 can manage 1440p with older AAA games.
it really depends on your needs and the titles you plan to play.
in any case, i would recommend getting a 144Hz panel if you decide to upgrade.
where are you located?
because the availability and prices of certain power supplies differ greatly depending on your region.
those xeon cpus were quite popular in the past, providing an i7 level of performance at a better price (though it’s uncertain if you can find one used, that’s another matter).
for instance, after a brief search I found some 4C/8T models for as low as €30 in my country.
not all models are compatible with your motherboard either (something to consider too).
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nnerdragon
02-02-2016, 08:22 AM #19

also you don´t have to purchase an expensive power supply, just something dependable.
resolution isn’t essential, though the GTX 1070 can manage 1440p with older AAA games.
it really depends on your needs and the titles you plan to play.
in any case, i would recommend getting a 144Hz panel if you decide to upgrade.
where are you located?
because the availability and prices of certain power supplies differ greatly depending on your region.
those xeon cpus were quite popular in the past, providing an i7 level of performance at a better price (though it’s uncertain if you can find one used, that’s another matter).
for instance, after a brief search I found some 4C/8T models for as low as €30 in my country.
not all models are compatible with your motherboard either (something to consider too).

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kaaskotskikker
Posting Freak
795
02-02-2016, 09:07 AM
#20
Regarding the Xeons, it seems they might require some adjustments with the MOBO to function properly on non-server platforms. Also, I'm curious if these changes will apply to my setup?🤔
By the way, I'm from Spain, and the second-hand PC market here is surprisingly costly... 😅
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kaaskotskikker
02-02-2016, 09:07 AM #20

Regarding the Xeons, it seems they might require some adjustments with the MOBO to function properly on non-server platforms. Also, I'm curious if these changes will apply to my setup?🤔
By the way, I'm from Spain, and the second-hand PC market here is surprisingly costly... 😅

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