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Are there any indications that my CPU is experiencing instability?

Are there any indications that my CPU is experiencing instability?

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zaczac1234
Member
108
11-17-2022, 01:53 AM
#1
CPU:
i9-13900K
This is my third i9, which I swapped following an BIOS update to the 0x12B microcode fix. After a few Unreal Engine games began crashing, I became a bit anxious about the CPU breaking again. At Intel Support’s advice on /r/Intel, I ran an XTU CPU stress test for 30 minutes. The images attached are the results I received.
https://imgur.com/a/KfN6EdR
The computer prevented me from using PrintScreen while that window was active, which is why I ended up with a mobile capture.
Some user on Reddit mentioned these could indicate instability and suggested I start the RMA process, but I wanted a more knowledgeable and precise perspective.
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zaczac1234
11-17-2022, 01:53 AM #1

CPU:
i9-13900K
This is my third i9, which I swapped following an BIOS update to the 0x12B microcode fix. After a few Unreal Engine games began crashing, I became a bit anxious about the CPU breaking again. At Intel Support’s advice on /r/Intel, I ran an XTU CPU stress test for 30 minutes. The images attached are the results I received.
https://imgur.com/a/KfN6EdR
The computer prevented me from using PrintScreen while that window was active, which is why I ended up with a mobile capture.
Some user on Reddit mentioned these could indicate instability and suggested I start the RMA process, but I wanted a more knowledgeable and precise perspective.

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Blazerx13
Junior Member
20
11-17-2022, 09:40 AM
#2
For the sake of relevance, what is the make and model of your motherboard and what BIOS version are you using for that board?
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Blazerx13
11-17-2022, 09:40 AM #2

For the sake of relevance, what is the make and model of your motherboard and what BIOS version are you using for that board?

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WD_Trashster
Senior Member
454
12-07-2022, 05:39 PM
#3
This sounds more like a ventilation and cooling situation. Let's talk more about your cpu and case cooling since that's a lot of thermal throttling but you still passed the test. What make and model of cpu cooler are you using and are its fans running at 100 percent when the throttling occurs? What make and model case are you using and how many fans do you have and what size are they? Are your fans running at 100 percent when the throttling occurs? You could try manually setting all of your cpu and case fans to 100 percent before you start the test and then run the test again. You could also try using a program like HWiNFO to log your cpu, cpu package, vrm and motherboard temps to see what they look like when the test is running.
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WD_Trashster
12-07-2022, 05:39 PM #3

This sounds more like a ventilation and cooling situation. Let's talk more about your cpu and case cooling since that's a lot of thermal throttling but you still passed the test. What make and model of cpu cooler are you using and are its fans running at 100 percent when the throttling occurs? What make and model case are you using and how many fans do you have and what size are they? Are your fans running at 100 percent when the throttling occurs? You could try manually setting all of your cpu and case fans to 100 percent before you start the test and then run the test again. You could also try using a program like HWiNFO to log your cpu, cpu package, vrm and motherboard temps to see what they look like when the test is running.

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twier123
Junior Member
5
12-08-2022, 01:59 AM
#4
Show an image of your setup without the side panel. You require improved CPU cooling; your CPU is overheating. State the exact motherboard model name. Specify the precise BIOS version you installed.
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twier123
12-08-2022, 01:59 AM #4

Show an image of your setup without the side panel. You require improved CPU cooling; your CPU is overheating. State the exact motherboard model name. Specify the precise BIOS version you installed.

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crazy_boby
Junior Member
23
12-28-2022, 01:58 PM
#5
The motherboard is a GIGABYTE Z790 UD AX with BIOS version F13. I'm uncertain about the 14th generation upgrade and might need to consult Intel for approval.
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crazy_boby
12-28-2022, 01:58 PM #5

The motherboard is a GIGABYTE Z790 UD AX with BIOS version F13. I'm uncertain about the 14th generation upgrade and might need to consult Intel for approval.

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jlien11
Senior Member
253
12-28-2022, 05:35 PM
#6
Observe the CPU temperatures during idle and full load conditions. Review the CPU power settings in BIOS to confirm they align with Intel's recommended baseline values. ICCMAX 249A reports PL1 at 125W and PL2 at 188W. Intel has released updated microcode to resolve instability issues in certain 13th and 14th Gen Core i5/i7 processors, focusing on these models. www.guru3d.com
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jlien11
12-28-2022, 05:35 PM #6

Observe the CPU temperatures during idle and full load conditions. Review the CPU power settings in BIOS to confirm they align with Intel's recommended baseline values. ICCMAX 249A reports PL1 at 125W and PL2 at 188W. Intel has released updated microcode to resolve instability issues in certain 13th and 14th Gen Core i5/i7 processors, focusing on these models. www.guru3d.com

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Aaronman5
Member
72
12-28-2022, 07:39 PM
#7
The chip is managing its performance by reducing speed when it becomes too warm.
It's not the temperature itself that's the issue, but rather the voltage that leads to heat generation.
It seems you might be unintentionally pushing your system beyond safe limits.
On the motherboard, minor adjustments like setting default optimized BIOS settings could help.
Historically, manufacturers would overclock their boards for a competitive edge.
Make sure your motherboard has the latest BIOS updates.
Try this simple test:
In Windows Power Management, lower the maximum CPU usage from 100% to 99%.
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Aaronman5
12-28-2022, 07:39 PM #7

The chip is managing its performance by reducing speed when it becomes too warm.
It's not the temperature itself that's the issue, but rather the voltage that leads to heat generation.
It seems you might be unintentionally pushing your system beyond safe limits.
On the motherboard, minor adjustments like setting default optimized BIOS settings could help.
Historically, manufacturers would overclock their boards for a competitive edge.
Make sure your motherboard has the latest BIOS updates.
Try this simple test:
In Windows Power Management, lower the maximum CPU usage from 100% to 99%.

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ItzUtopia_PvP
Member
149
12-30-2022, 05:10 PM
#8
Hey everyone. Sorry for the delayed response, but I wanted to refresh this update. Intel confirmed my CPU is displaying instability signs. I'm not sure what to do next—it was a replacement and only had the 0x12B patch installed. The BIOS default settings were set to "Extreme".
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ItzUtopia_PvP
12-30-2022, 05:10 PM #8

Hey everyone. Sorry for the delayed response, but I wanted to refresh this update. Intel confirmed my CPU is displaying instability signs. I'm not sure what to do next—it was a replacement and only had the 0x12B patch installed. The BIOS default settings were set to "Extreme".

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SirDone
Junior Member
5
01-01-2023, 07:22 PM
#9
Adjust configurations to standard levels.
High-performance options are intended for overclocking and may lead to issues.
If your CPU has weakened due to extended operation in extreme settings, consider replacing it.
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SirDone
01-01-2023, 07:22 PM #9

Adjust configurations to standard levels.
High-performance options are intended for overclocking and may lead to issues.
If your CPU has weakened due to extended operation in extreme settings, consider replacing it.

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maximum215
Junior Member
49
01-03-2023, 07:31 PM
#10
Extreme isn't meant for overclocking, at least Intel doesn't treat it that way, and CPUs won't be harmed by extreme as long as the BIOS has a fix. But it's named extreme because it forces the CPU to operate at very high speeds, and even if you have multiple CPUs, they'll behave similarly unless cooling is improved or settings are adjusted. Yeah, if your cooling isn't sufficient for extreme, reduce the setting to match what your cooling can support.
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maximum215
01-03-2023, 07:31 PM #10

Extreme isn't meant for overclocking, at least Intel doesn't treat it that way, and CPUs won't be harmed by extreme as long as the BIOS has a fix. But it's named extreme because it forces the CPU to operate at very high speeds, and even if you have multiple CPUs, they'll behave similarly unless cooling is improved or settings are adjusted. Yeah, if your cooling isn't sufficient for extreme, reduce the setting to match what your cooling can support.

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