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Apple A13 chip performance metrics

Apple A13 chip performance metrics

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livtheviking
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12-28-2017, 09:35 PM
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This chip delivers exceptional performance within its power limits. I believe arm chips will shape the future. X86 loses ground when measured against efficiency per watt—it’s not just this chip, it’s strong. An arm chip can drive the switch 2 and turn a small console into a powerhouse.
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livtheviking
12-28-2017, 09:35 PM #1

This chip delivers exceptional performance within its power limits. I believe arm chips will shape the future. X86 loses ground when measured against efficiency per watt—it’s not just this chip, it’s strong. An arm chip can drive the switch 2 and turn a small console into a powerhouse.

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Egg_
Junior Member
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12-30-2017, 09:43 AM
#2
It's impressive, but its drawback is still heat.
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Egg_
12-30-2017, 09:43 AM #2

It's impressive, but its drawback is still heat.

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Robang592
Senior Member
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12-30-2017, 10:04 AM
#3
The latest Macs featuring ARM chips often include a compact fan to prevent the arm chip from slowing down, resulting in impressive performance.
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Robang592
12-30-2017, 10:04 AM #3

The latest Macs featuring ARM chips often include a compact fan to prevent the arm chip from slowing down, resulting in impressive performance.

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12-30-2017, 11:41 AM
#4
Within reason, remember there isn't a lot of development yet into the arm architecture for high end video production, video and audio encoding and the sort. Great concept, not a lot of support, but I will agree if this is what arm as in store for us if a major manufacturer is willing to invest into it (coughs Microsoft coughs) then the future definitely looks interesting.
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alondra_malfoy
12-30-2017, 11:41 AM #4

Within reason, remember there isn't a lot of development yet into the arm architecture for high end video production, video and audio encoding and the sort. Great concept, not a lot of support, but I will agree if this is what arm as in store for us if a major manufacturer is willing to invest into it (coughs Microsoft coughs) then the future definitely looks interesting.

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SmashBeaz
Member
131
12-31-2017, 01:02 AM
#5
Apple is expected to reveal Arm Macs soon, but these devices haven’t caught my attention before. If they lead to lower costs, I’d be really keen. Arm could extend battery life significantly—possibly more than a standard Mac using the older 14nm Intel processor.
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SmashBeaz
12-31-2017, 01:02 AM #5

Apple is expected to reveal Arm Macs soon, but these devices haven’t caught my attention before. If they lead to lower costs, I’d be really keen. Arm could extend battery life significantly—possibly more than a standard Mac using the older 14nm Intel processor.

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eoskatt
Junior Member
11
12-31-2017, 08:49 PM
#6
The A13 Big CPU cores are quick, but expanding them won’t be easy. Apple chose a very wide layout, which creates tough problems for feeding data efficiently. Samsung has faced similar issues with their own custom designs. In short, speed drops if information moves too slowly through the core. Apple also aimed for a shorter pipeline, which reduces errors and power use but limits higher clock speeds. To my knowledge (possibly incorrect about AMX), Apple hasn’t added vectorized instructions like AVX yet. This can greatly affect performance based on the task. On the PC side, unless ARM can mimic x86 at realistic speeds, I don’t think it will replace x86 soon—especially for gamers who need top performance and older games often don’t get updated. Looking back at the last few decades of software, it’s a big challenge to maintain efficiency while improving. You’d need massive performance gains on ARM to make people switch quickly.
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eoskatt
12-31-2017, 08:49 PM #6

The A13 Big CPU cores are quick, but expanding them won’t be easy. Apple chose a very wide layout, which creates tough problems for feeding data efficiently. Samsung has faced similar issues with their own custom designs. In short, speed drops if information moves too slowly through the core. Apple also aimed for a shorter pipeline, which reduces errors and power use but limits higher clock speeds. To my knowledge (possibly incorrect about AMX), Apple hasn’t added vectorized instructions like AVX yet. This can greatly affect performance based on the task. On the PC side, unless ARM can mimic x86 at realistic speeds, I don’t think it will replace x86 soon—especially for gamers who need top performance and older games often don’t get updated. Looking back at the last few decades of software, it’s a big challenge to maintain efficiency while improving. You’d need massive performance gains on ARM to make people switch quickly.

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RMUMAURICE777
Senior Member
375
12-31-2017, 10:50 PM
#7
In the gaming world, there are still areas where the CPU plays a smaller role. If you examine the demand for processors, CPU performance has largely plateaued due to modest gains in core speeds over time. For gaming, developers should increasingly adopt multi-threading. Take the Nintendo Switch as an example—it isn’t a high-performance machine, but it’s more limited by its GPU than its CPU.
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RMUMAURICE777
12-31-2017, 10:50 PM #7

In the gaming world, there are still areas where the CPU plays a smaller role. If you examine the demand for processors, CPU performance has largely plateaued due to modest gains in core speeds over time. For gaming, developers should increasingly adopt multi-threading. Take the Nintendo Switch as an example—it isn’t a high-performance machine, but it’s more limited by its GPU than its CPU.

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12-31-2017, 11:15 PM
#8
Have you noticed any new titles lately?
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BuddyTheTurtle
12-31-2017, 11:15 PM #8

Have you noticed any new titles lately?

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MiNdLeSs_Buzz
Junior Member
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01-01-2018, 08:05 AM
#9
I've observed them, and the majority rely more on GPU than CPU.
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MiNdLeSs_Buzz
01-01-2018, 08:05 AM #9

I've observed them, and the majority rely more on GPU than CPU.

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dumafe
Member
110
01-01-2018, 09:46 AM
#10
It doesn’t convey much practical information. You can design numerous games that rely heavily on graphics if you choose to run at 4K plus Ultra levels.
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dumafe
01-01-2018, 09:46 AM #10

It doesn’t convey much practical information. You can design numerous games that rely heavily on graphics if you choose to run at 4K plus Ultra levels.

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