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Alder lake MSI Z690-A WIFI D4 combined with Crucial 3600 CL 16-18-18 setup challenge

Alder lake MSI Z690-A WIFI D4 combined with Crucial 3600 CL 16-18-18 setup challenge

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Zazzery
Member
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03-03-2021, 12:50 AM
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I'm just starting out with overclocking. I chose the MSI Z690a WiFi D4 after reading reviews that called it the top value for the price. I have 12700K installed on it.
I purchased crucial ballistix 2x8GB DDR4 CL16 3600 Mhz RAM. The memory works fine at the default JDEC 2666 MHz, but I experience BSODs when I turn on XMP and run it at its rated speeds of 16-18-18 3600. It also stays stable with 3200 CL15 timings when XMP is enabled. Am I making a mistake? I ordered a replacement board and it has the same problem.
Is the issue with the board, the RAM, or my overclocking setup?
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Zazzery
03-03-2021, 12:50 AM #1

I'm just starting out with overclocking. I chose the MSI Z690a WiFi D4 after reading reviews that called it the top value for the price. I have 12700K installed on it.
I purchased crucial ballistix 2x8GB DDR4 CL16 3600 Mhz RAM. The memory works fine at the default JDEC 2666 MHz, but I experience BSODs when I turn on XMP and run it at its rated speeds of 16-18-18 3600. It also stays stable with 3200 CL15 timings when XMP is enabled. Am I making a mistake? I ordered a replacement board and it has the same problem.
Is the issue with the board, the RAM, or my overclocking setup?

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pastakid1
Junior Member
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03-07-2021, 03:58 PM
#2
also when you set the xmp, is the command rate on 1T? i mean, use 2T instead. since alderlake doesn't have vccio, it's being replaced with vddq. you might want to try 1.35v on this, and the SA could be 1.2~ to 1.25v, after turning xmp on, then adjust command rate to 2T if it's 1T.
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pastakid1
03-07-2021, 03:58 PM #2

also when you set the xmp, is the command rate on 1T? i mean, use 2T instead. since alderlake doesn't have vccio, it's being replaced with vddq. you might want to try 1.35v on this, and the SA could be 1.2~ to 1.25v, after turning xmp on, then adjust command rate to 2T if it's 1T.

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StarkRider
Member
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03-08-2021, 05:33 AM
#3
consider updating the motherboard bios to the newest version, then turn on xmp once more, and set VCCSA/CPU SA voltage between 1.2 and 1.25, along with CPU VDDQ from 1.25 to 1.35.
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StarkRider
03-08-2021, 05:33 AM #3

consider updating the motherboard bios to the newest version, then turn on xmp once more, and set VCCSA/CPU SA voltage between 1.2 and 1.25, along with CPU VDDQ from 1.25 to 1.35.

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freythefab
Member
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03-18-2021, 09:56 PM
#4
We evaluated the Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16 16GB RAM Kit, performed overclocking, and assessed its performance potential.
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freythefab
03-18-2021, 09:56 PM #4

We evaluated the Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16 16GB RAM Kit, performed overclocking, and assessed its performance potential.

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Ankkuli_
Member
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03-21-2021, 10:34 AM
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I've tried both methods, but I can enter the desktop, run a few apps, then experience a BSOD due to MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error. My RAMs are already at 1.356 V, and changing it to 1.35 doesn't resolve the issue. My RAM and MOBO remain within the acceptable range. Could this be an overclocking problem or an issue with either the MOBO or RAM?
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Ankkuli_
03-21-2021, 10:34 AM #5

I've tried both methods, but I can enter the desktop, run a few apps, then experience a BSOD due to MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error. My RAMs are already at 1.356 V, and changing it to 1.35 doesn't resolve the issue. My RAM and MOBO remain within the acceptable range. Could this be an overclocking problem or an issue with either the MOBO or RAM?

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SpeakingEel84
Junior Member
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04-11-2021, 01:30 PM
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also when you set the xmp, is the command rate on 1T? i mean, use 2T instead. since alderlake doesn't have vccio, it's being replaced with vddq. you might want to try 1.35v on this, and the SA could be 1.2~ to 1.25v after turning xmp on, then adjust command rate to 2T if it's 1T.
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SpeakingEel84
04-11-2021, 01:30 PM #6

also when you set the xmp, is the command rate on 1T? i mean, use 2T instead. since alderlake doesn't have vccio, it's being replaced with vddq. you might want to try 1.35v on this, and the SA could be 1.2~ to 1.25v after turning xmp on, then adjust command rate to 2T if it's 1T.

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IIAnthonyII
Member
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04-11-2021, 02:12 PM
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Tried all the suggestions you mentioned. Nothing helped, even increasing the voltage further. Besides, I also used Gear 2 but couldn't reach BIOS; I had to reset the CMOS. It seems a better board for around $50 would be more effective, or I could consider swapping this RAM for Corsair.
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IIAnthonyII
04-11-2021, 02:12 PM #7

Tried all the suggestions you mentioned. Nothing helped, even increasing the voltage further. Besides, I also used Gear 2 but couldn't reach BIOS; I had to reset the CMOS. It seems a better board for around $50 would be more effective, or I could consider swapping this RAM for Corsair.

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TWcrafter
Junior Member
35
04-12-2021, 06:03 PM
#8
it's not exactly "something like corsair" because a bad IC die could cause problems. The main issues with alderlake are that VCCSA and VDDQ are restricted to non-K SKUs, and that it won't run on 3600 gear 1. You might try testing it on a rocketlake or comet lake platform to check if the ram kit is functioning properly. If it works, the problem could be with your motherboard. Alternatively, enable XMP and run it on 16-19-19-36-55(tRC) at a 2T command rate. Check the Thaiphoon burner for speed details; with a Micron E/N die, it should perform well.
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TWcrafter
04-12-2021, 06:03 PM #8

it's not exactly "something like corsair" because a bad IC die could cause problems. The main issues with alderlake are that VCCSA and VDDQ are restricted to non-K SKUs, and that it won't run on 3600 gear 1. You might try testing it on a rocketlake or comet lake platform to check if the ram kit is functioning properly. If it works, the problem could be with your motherboard. Alternatively, enable XMP and run it on 16-19-19-36-55(tRC) at a 2T command rate. Check the Thaiphoon burner for speed details; with a Micron E/N die, it should perform well.