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EisTeeKlaus
Senior Member
490
08-16-2016, 09:10 PM
#1
I've gotten used to version 8.1… but 10 seems better overall. I once tried it and it didn’t work—I couldn't connect to the internet no matter what I did. Frame rates look smoother in 10, and DirectX 12 supports it. I’m not sure if upgrading fixes my old issues, like missing games or content. If it doesn’t, I might be more likely to switch.
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EisTeeKlaus
08-16-2016, 09:10 PM #1

I've gotten used to version 8.1… but 10 seems better overall. I once tried it and it didn’t work—I couldn't connect to the internet no matter what I did. Frame rates look smoother in 10, and DirectX 12 supports it. I’m not sure if upgrading fixes my old issues, like missing games or content. If it doesn’t, I might be more likely to switch.

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TommyTheLommy
Posting Freak
846
08-17-2016, 04:17 AM
#2
There it is, all tangled and wild—like a fairy just dumped some sparkles on it!
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TommyTheLommy
08-17-2016, 04:17 AM #2

There it is, all tangled and wild—like a fairy just dumped some sparkles on it!

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Mr_Doom1023
Member
151
08-17-2016, 01:16 PM
#3
Upgrading ensures your programs and files remain intact as long as they work with Windows 10. You can perform a check to understand any potential losses.
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Mr_Doom1023
08-17-2016, 01:16 PM #3

Upgrading ensures your programs and files remain intact as long as they work with Windows 10. You can perform a check to understand any potential losses.

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isaiah186
Member
128
08-18-2016, 10:28 PM
#4
Windows 10 lacks a compatible driver for your motherboard? (ASUS Sabertooth Z87)
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isaiah186
08-18-2016, 10:28 PM #4

Windows 10 lacks a compatible driver for your motherboard? (ASUS Sabertooth Z87)

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the5harkman
Senior Member
542
08-27-2016, 11:31 PM
#5
Besides DirectX 12, I believe switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 isn't really beneficial. Windows 8.1 is set to get Vulkan support soon, which might make DirectX 12 less of a priority. Windows 10 essentially rebrands Windows 7 and 8 with built-in ads, data tracking, fewer visual customization options, and slightly diminished performance in apps and games compared to its predecessors. It's more of a commercial update for Microsoft, offering extra revenue streams. For users, it feels like a step back from Windows 7 or 8. Still, there are drivers available for your motherboard.
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the5harkman
08-27-2016, 11:31 PM #5

Besides DirectX 12, I believe switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 isn't really beneficial. Windows 8.1 is set to get Vulkan support soon, which might make DirectX 12 less of a priority. Windows 10 essentially rebrands Windows 7 and 8 with built-in ads, data tracking, fewer visual customization options, and slightly diminished performance in apps and games compared to its predecessors. It's more of a commercial update for Microsoft, offering extra revenue streams. For users, it feels like a step back from Windows 7 or 8. Still, there are drivers available for your motherboard.

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SonyVegas_
Member
179
09-04-2016, 05:21 AM
#6
It seems you might not be able to access the internet due to missing drivers for your wireless or Ethernet card. Microsoft may not have the necessary drivers available. Check your motherboard site for the correct drivers, download them, and install them. Alternatively, use another PC to obtain the drivers before upgrading to Windows 10. If you lack Windows 10 drivers, consider using drivers for Windows 7 or 8. In compatibility mode, ensure the driver matches your system (check the box under "Run this program in compatibility mode for" and select the appropriate OS). If issues persist, open Device Manager and manually install the drivers.
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SonyVegas_
09-04-2016, 05:21 AM #6

It seems you might not be able to access the internet due to missing drivers for your wireless or Ethernet card. Microsoft may not have the necessary drivers available. Check your motherboard site for the correct drivers, download them, and install them. Alternatively, use another PC to obtain the drivers before upgrading to Windows 10. If you lack Windows 10 drivers, consider using drivers for Windows 7 or 8. In compatibility mode, ensure the driver matches your system (check the box under "Run this program in compatibility mode for" and select the appropriate OS). If issues persist, open Device Manager and manually install the drivers.

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Viizion_PvPz
Senior Member
670
09-13-2016, 09:47 PM
#7
There are numerous benefits to upgrading to Windows 10. It includes a variety of fresh features. Games compatible with DirectX 12 won't work on Windows 8.1 or 7. The user needs Windows 10 if they want to play supported titles in Direct X 12 mode. FALSE! Just go to bed.
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Viizion_PvPz
09-13-2016, 09:47 PM #7

There are numerous benefits to upgrading to Windows 10. It includes a variety of fresh features. Games compatible with DirectX 12 won't work on Windows 8.1 or 7. The user needs Windows 10 if they want to play supported titles in Direct X 12 mode. FALSE! Just go to bed.

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Quintje2002
Junior Member
45
09-13-2016, 10:00 PM
#8
Windows 10 introduces several minor updates alongside some additional features and a few notable changes. Both Windows 7 and 8 are now compatible with Vulkan, which offers similar capabilities to DirectX 12, meaning you don’t always need DirectX 12 itself. Windows 10 remains essential for running games that require DirectX 12 in its specific mode. However, some titles may support Vulkan as well, allowing performance gains without needing DirectX 12. Even without these upgrades, the same games will still function on older systems.

While some might try to downplay certain details to promote Windows 10 adoption, it’s important to recognize that each point I made holds truth. Windows 10 essentially rebrands Windows 7 and 8 with minor tweaks, much like an updated version of a familiar product. It resembles a modernized, data-driven iteration of its predecessors.

Microsoft profits from widespread use of Windows 10, turning it into a platform for extensive data gathering—similar to how a service like Google collects information. The free availability of Windows 10 is part of this strategy. While it offers convenience and features, certain aspects such as reduced control over visual and update settings, a less expansive start menu, and slightly diminished performance in applications compared to Windows 8.1 and 7 are points of concern.

Monetization strategies include advertisements, the built-in Windows Store, integrated music services like Groove Music, data collection through usage tracking (including Cortana interactions), and the processing of emails and documents via Microsoft servers. The privacy policy emphasizes ongoing data collection, though it doesn’t guarantee strict boundaries for Microsoft’s operations.
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Quintje2002
09-13-2016, 10:00 PM #8

Windows 10 introduces several minor updates alongside some additional features and a few notable changes. Both Windows 7 and 8 are now compatible with Vulkan, which offers similar capabilities to DirectX 12, meaning you don’t always need DirectX 12 itself. Windows 10 remains essential for running games that require DirectX 12 in its specific mode. However, some titles may support Vulkan as well, allowing performance gains without needing DirectX 12. Even without these upgrades, the same games will still function on older systems.

While some might try to downplay certain details to promote Windows 10 adoption, it’s important to recognize that each point I made holds truth. Windows 10 essentially rebrands Windows 7 and 8 with minor tweaks, much like an updated version of a familiar product. It resembles a modernized, data-driven iteration of its predecessors.

Microsoft profits from widespread use of Windows 10, turning it into a platform for extensive data gathering—similar to how a service like Google collects information. The free availability of Windows 10 is part of this strategy. While it offers convenience and features, certain aspects such as reduced control over visual and update settings, a less expansive start menu, and slightly diminished performance in applications compared to Windows 8.1 and 7 are points of concern.

Monetization strategies include advertisements, the built-in Windows Store, integrated music services like Groove Music, data collection through usage tracking (including Cortana interactions), and the processing of emails and documents via Microsoft servers. The privacy policy emphasizes ongoing data collection, though it doesn’t guarantee strict boundaries for Microsoft’s operations.

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mrjaja38
Junior Member
16
09-13-2016, 10:30 PM
#9
Discussing feature cuts? What exactly means? Windows 95 is adopting Vulkan. Why avoid this? Also, Vulkan isn't identical to DirectX 12; they serve similar purposes but aren't interchangeable. A game can't run both DirectX and Vulkan simultaneously. A studio might accept the extra work and cost, especially since major publishers often invest heavily. /s Nevertheless, upgrading to the latest Windows isn't just about convenience—it's free. You don’t want to hinder people from getting a free upgrade, especially if they prefer Linux-based systems and think it suits everyone. That’s not true. You’re mistaken in thinking you’re overestimating the impact. Your claim was incorrect. Windows 10 isn’t just a rebranded version of Windows 7 or 8; that’s not accurate. Did you actually use the operating system? Let alone check screenshots? Or maybe you did, but you thought it was a surprise? Windows 95 is essentially a re-packaged version of Windows 7/8—clearly a misunderstanding.

You’re not wrong about wanting to bypass certain options. But your overall argument is flawed. Your entire statement was false. Windows 10 bundles various Microsoft services: Bing, OneDrive, Azure, and its Store. This isn’t new (Azure is already there), and Windows 8 had similar features. You’re fine with Windows 8, which is odd. Again, pointing out that you’re pushing poor advice because of a personal bias toward Windows 10 is understandable.

Windows 10 connects Bing for web searches via the Start Menu, much like Windows 8 (and it was available in Windows 7, though not optimally). This feature isn’t new—Microsoft has enabled it to boost its search engine and generate more revenue through services like Cortana. Another Bing perk is Spotlight; if you turned it on, Microsoft could use it to display curated images based on your preferences. Over time, they might shift to a different ad format, like the one shown in the Store. Currently, OneDrive is integrated into the OS, encouraging Office 365 subscriptions for more storage. This is how Microsoft monetizes its services.

Azure allows Windows 10 Pro users to connect to it within an Azure domain instead of relying on a local Windows Server. The Store service was previously hidden but now appears as a central hub for buying movies, music, and apps. It’s not entirely new from Windows 8. Grove Music is another offering—Microsoft isn’t aggressively promoting it, but ads appear in the Store when you browse music. This is similar to Windows 8’s XBox Music. The main revenue comes from in-app purchases like Candy Crush, which users install only if they click on it. It disappears unless you manually enable it.

One thing to note: you’re not installing anything by default. It’s just a minor inconvenience if you ignore it. The goal is for people to choose the best fit for their needs and enjoy their devices. You’re suggesting Vulkan runs on Windows 7/8, but it actually works with any Windows version that supports Nvidia/AMD drivers. So why not use Windows 10, which offers both DirectX 12 and Vulkan? It’s free. Just have both!

You’re asking for control over visual settings? That’s fine—updates are mandatory. The Start Menu is more powerful; you can pin apps, organize them, scale the interface, and quickly access sections. This helps when your menu is cluttered. Searching with the Start Menu gives more detailed results than a simple list.

Apps are fewer in Windows 10, but everything is accessible. Gaming performance remains consistent with Windows 8.1. Update drivers if needed. The Windows Store has been around since Vista, as Windows Marketplace. Grove Music is a touch-friendly music player supporting FLAC and other formats. Remember, some users have tablets or convertible devices—so apps must be available.

Don’t overlook the privacy policy. You’re bundling everything into one platform. Bing collects data for market analysis, which companies like Google use to target ads. If you’re in Canada or the U.S., you might find it useful; but European users aged 18–25 are more interested. Microsoft partners also access data, and in some regions, payment systems aren’t managed directly by Microsoft. If servers are overloaded, files may sync with third-party services temporarily.

This data routing helps maintain services like Netflix or Facebook. It’s a complex system designed to keep platforms running smoothly. Azure servers aren’t immune to DDoS attacks either. With newer Windows versions and better security, it’s harder for attackers to disrupt services. Also, mixing email, OneDrive, and files isn’t ideal—services should work independently.

You’re right that some features are unnecessary. The real issue is balancing convenience with privacy and control. If you want a seamless experience, just enjoy what fits your needs. Just remember: Microsoft’s strategy is evolving, but it’s not about forcing a single solution on everyone.
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mrjaja38
09-13-2016, 10:30 PM #9

Discussing feature cuts? What exactly means? Windows 95 is adopting Vulkan. Why avoid this? Also, Vulkan isn't identical to DirectX 12; they serve similar purposes but aren't interchangeable. A game can't run both DirectX and Vulkan simultaneously. A studio might accept the extra work and cost, especially since major publishers often invest heavily. /s Nevertheless, upgrading to the latest Windows isn't just about convenience—it's free. You don’t want to hinder people from getting a free upgrade, especially if they prefer Linux-based systems and think it suits everyone. That’s not true. You’re mistaken in thinking you’re overestimating the impact. Your claim was incorrect. Windows 10 isn’t just a rebranded version of Windows 7 or 8; that’s not accurate. Did you actually use the operating system? Let alone check screenshots? Or maybe you did, but you thought it was a surprise? Windows 95 is essentially a re-packaged version of Windows 7/8—clearly a misunderstanding.

You’re not wrong about wanting to bypass certain options. But your overall argument is flawed. Your entire statement was false. Windows 10 bundles various Microsoft services: Bing, OneDrive, Azure, and its Store. This isn’t new (Azure is already there), and Windows 8 had similar features. You’re fine with Windows 8, which is odd. Again, pointing out that you’re pushing poor advice because of a personal bias toward Windows 10 is understandable.

Windows 10 connects Bing for web searches via the Start Menu, much like Windows 8 (and it was available in Windows 7, though not optimally). This feature isn’t new—Microsoft has enabled it to boost its search engine and generate more revenue through services like Cortana. Another Bing perk is Spotlight; if you turned it on, Microsoft could use it to display curated images based on your preferences. Over time, they might shift to a different ad format, like the one shown in the Store. Currently, OneDrive is integrated into the OS, encouraging Office 365 subscriptions for more storage. This is how Microsoft monetizes its services.

Azure allows Windows 10 Pro users to connect to it within an Azure domain instead of relying on a local Windows Server. The Store service was previously hidden but now appears as a central hub for buying movies, music, and apps. It’s not entirely new from Windows 8. Grove Music is another offering—Microsoft isn’t aggressively promoting it, but ads appear in the Store when you browse music. This is similar to Windows 8’s XBox Music. The main revenue comes from in-app purchases like Candy Crush, which users install only if they click on it. It disappears unless you manually enable it.

One thing to note: you’re not installing anything by default. It’s just a minor inconvenience if you ignore it. The goal is for people to choose the best fit for their needs and enjoy their devices. You’re suggesting Vulkan runs on Windows 7/8, but it actually works with any Windows version that supports Nvidia/AMD drivers. So why not use Windows 10, which offers both DirectX 12 and Vulkan? It’s free. Just have both!

You’re asking for control over visual settings? That’s fine—updates are mandatory. The Start Menu is more powerful; you can pin apps, organize them, scale the interface, and quickly access sections. This helps when your menu is cluttered. Searching with the Start Menu gives more detailed results than a simple list.

Apps are fewer in Windows 10, but everything is accessible. Gaming performance remains consistent with Windows 8.1. Update drivers if needed. The Windows Store has been around since Vista, as Windows Marketplace. Grove Music is a touch-friendly music player supporting FLAC and other formats. Remember, some users have tablets or convertible devices—so apps must be available.

Don’t overlook the privacy policy. You’re bundling everything into one platform. Bing collects data for market analysis, which companies like Google use to target ads. If you’re in Canada or the U.S., you might find it useful; but European users aged 18–25 are more interested. Microsoft partners also access data, and in some regions, payment systems aren’t managed directly by Microsoft. If servers are overloaded, files may sync with third-party services temporarily.

This data routing helps maintain services like Netflix or Facebook. It’s a complex system designed to keep platforms running smoothly. Azure servers aren’t immune to DDoS attacks either. With newer Windows versions and better security, it’s harder for attackers to disrupt services. Also, mixing email, OneDrive, and files isn’t ideal—services should work independently.

You’re right that some features are unnecessary. The real issue is balancing convenience with privacy and control. If you want a seamless experience, just enjoy what fits your needs. Just remember: Microsoft’s strategy is evolving, but it’s not about forcing a single solution on everyone.

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Ha1L
Junior Member
5
09-14-2016, 06:57 AM
#10
This reply seems to stray far from the original point, mixing unrelated ideas in a confusing way. It appears to blend multiple perspectives without clear connection, making it difficult to follow the intended message. The tone suggests a deliberate attempt to obscure meaning rather than clarify it.
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Ha1L
09-14-2016, 06:57 AM #10

This reply seems to stray far from the original point, mixing unrelated ideas in a confusing way. It appears to blend multiple perspectives without clear connection, making it difficult to follow the intended message. The tone suggests a deliberate attempt to obscure meaning rather than clarify it.

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