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Adapter compatible with PCIe 4.0 and 4x to PCIe 2.0 and 16x

Adapter compatible with PCIe 4.0 and 4x to PCIe 2.0 and 16x

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HiShiRoO
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09-14-2019, 04:29 AM
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I possess a PCIe 4.0 4x M.2 SSD. My motherboard has PCIe 3.0 16 slots (for GTX 1070) and PCIe 2.0 16 slots (unused). In theory, PCIe 2.0 16x bandwidth equals PCIe 4.0 4x bandwidth, which is 64Gbps. If I could locate a PCIe 4.0 4x adapter, I could use my SSD at full speed without replacing the board. Does such a product exist? If it does, please direct me to a recommendation. From my studies I've found this: I considered the ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 card and placing one SSD inside, but after thinking it through I believe it won't work. Even though the card supports a 16x slot, each PCIe 4.0 4x lane only connects to four lanes on the card, not all sixteen. It seems downconverters like this don't seem to be available.
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HiShiRoO
09-14-2019, 04:29 AM #1

I possess a PCIe 4.0 4x M.2 SSD. My motherboard has PCIe 3.0 16 slots (for GTX 1070) and PCIe 2.0 16 slots (unused). In theory, PCIe 2.0 16x bandwidth equals PCIe 4.0 4x bandwidth, which is 64Gbps. If I could locate a PCIe 4.0 4x adapter, I could use my SSD at full speed without replacing the board. Does such a product exist? If it does, please direct me to a recommendation. From my studies I've found this: I considered the ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 card and placing one SSD inside, but after thinking it through I believe it won't work. Even though the card supports a 16x slot, each PCIe 4.0 4x lane only connects to four lanes on the card, not all sixteen. It seems downconverters like this don't seem to be available.

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HARRIBO45600
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09-17-2019, 08:18 PM
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It doesn't seem to function that way. The physical wires for 16x connect the PCIE slot to the motherboard. You'd need an active converter, which I'm not aware of. Linking a PCIE4.0 4x device to PCIE2.0 would only result in a PCIE2.0 4x setup.
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HARRIBO45600
09-17-2019, 08:18 PM #2

It doesn't seem to function that way. The physical wires for 16x connect the PCIE slot to the motherboard. You'd need an active converter, which I'm not aware of. Linking a PCIE4.0 4x device to PCIE2.0 would only result in a PCIE2.0 4x setup.

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Trooped
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09-21-2019, 01:33 AM
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It seems this conversion might not be feasible. You'd need to divide incoming data across four faster parallel channels into sixteen slower ones, turning serial data into parallel format while maintaining timing accuracy.
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Trooped
09-21-2019, 01:33 AM #3

It seems this conversion might not be feasible. You'd need to divide incoming data across four faster parallel channels into sixteen slower ones, turning serial data into parallel format while maintaining timing accuracy.

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Titanic_Ben
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09-21-2019, 07:13 AM
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The motherboard is from a specific brand and model, but the exact details weren't provided. Please specify the brand or model for a precise answer.
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Titanic_Ben
09-21-2019, 07:13 AM #4

The motherboard is from a specific brand and model, but the exact details weren't provided. Please specify the brand or model for a precise answer.

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knevin246
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09-22-2019, 02:28 AM
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PCIE 2.0 4x=2GB/s speeds suit your needs for games and videos. Follow-up concerns: Your Asus Z87-C motherboard isn’t designed for M.2 SSDs as boot drives. Installing it in the adapter and using it in the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot should work out of the box, though it’s a fairly old board. You likely won’t need a modified BIOS for basic recognition. Your i7 4770K CPU is quite old—NVMe storage isn’t compatible with it, so you won’t have issues there. Regarding PCIe lanes, your CPU only has 16 lanes and limited configurations, which may restrict advanced NVMe setups. The manual suggests adjusting PCIe settings, but you’ll need to confirm if your motherboard supports the required lanes for NVMe.
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knevin246
09-22-2019, 02:28 AM #5

PCIE 2.0 4x=2GB/s speeds suit your needs for games and videos. Follow-up concerns: Your Asus Z87-C motherboard isn’t designed for M.2 SSDs as boot drives. Installing it in the adapter and using it in the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot should work out of the box, though it’s a fairly old board. You likely won’t need a modified BIOS for basic recognition. Your i7 4770K CPU is quite old—NVMe storage isn’t compatible with it, so you won’t have issues there. Regarding PCIe lanes, your CPU only has 16 lanes and limited configurations, which may restrict advanced NVMe setups. The manual suggests adjusting PCIe settings, but you’ll need to confirm if your motherboard supports the required lanes for NVMe.

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Alessiocalta
Junior Member
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09-22-2019, 03:10 AM
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PCI-e connections originate solely from the CPU and connect to the 3.0 x16 port. Other ports receive lanes from the chipset.
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Alessiocalta
09-22-2019, 03:10 AM #6

PCI-e connections originate solely from the CPU and connect to the 3.0 x16 port. Other ports receive lanes from the chipset.

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ChazmanC98
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09-22-2019, 10:31 AM
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It's possible to construct such a chip, but the extra delay in sending packets and forwarding them at a slower rate would probably negate any speed gains. PCIe can handle this scenario, though it's not recommended. For reference: there are expansion boxes that support PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, enabling you to connect both the GPU and SSD on the same PCIe 3.0 x16 bus at full speeds with reduced latency—provided they aren't accessed simultaneously. https://www.google.com/shopping/product/...5478490246 At around $3500 CAD or $2800 USD, this seems like just the beginning; you'll still need to purchase the PCIe x16 card and cable separately.
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ChazmanC98
09-22-2019, 10:31 AM #7

It's possible to construct such a chip, but the extra delay in sending packets and forwarding them at a slower rate would probably negate any speed gains. PCIe can handle this scenario, though it's not recommended. For reference: there are expansion boxes that support PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, enabling you to connect both the GPU and SSD on the same PCIe 3.0 x16 bus at full speeds with reduced latency—provided they aren't accessed simultaneously. https://www.google.com/shopping/product/...5478490246 At around $3500 CAD or $2800 USD, this seems like just the beginning; you'll still need to purchase the PCIe x16 card and cable separately.

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The_Rodry
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09-22-2019, 11:43 AM
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Only focus if you plan to start the NVMe storage without any operating system. If Windows 10 (or possibly 7 or 8 depending on drivers) or Linux is running smoothly, the system should recognize the drive and operate normally, just like any other PCIe device the BIOS doesn't understand. The processor shouldn't cause any problems either.
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The_Rodry
09-22-2019, 11:43 AM #8

Only focus if you plan to start the NVMe storage without any operating system. If Windows 10 (or possibly 7 or 8 depending on drivers) or Linux is running smoothly, the system should recognize the drive and operate normally, just like any other PCIe device the BIOS doesn't understand. The processor shouldn't cause any problems either.