Achieve stability on your 8700K PC
Achieve stability on your 8700K PC
Biglizard:
You're arrogant. There are some excellent mods on this forum, and you're not among them. Toms would be better off without you.
That was completely inappropriate!
He's one of the mods who genuinely tries to assist others here, and he definitely earns my respect! Ryan
Toyo :
4Ryan6 :
@toyo, darkbreeze has offered you great guidance, I recommend giving it a try! I haven’t doubted the value of your response or refused to apply its suggestions. Since I was already working on Blend, it made sense to let it complete so I could observe the outcomes. (12 hours went smoothly along the way).
I need to confirm a few points now.
It seems advised to skip AVX testing and stick with an older Prime95 release. Also, I’d overlook the errors I encountered during Blend with the newest Prime95 version. This approach would put less strain on the CPU compared to using the latest Prime that supports AVX.
Is this accurate?
Because I find it hard to accept that errors in calculation software should be disregarded. If Prime95 doesn’t work, no matter the version or whether it supports AVX, your PC is unstable.
If my reasoning is incorrect anywhere here, please let me know.
Biglizard explains that testing thermals with a version of prime95 lacking AVX instructions isn't about stability checks—it's specifically about thermal performance. He notes that Prime95 heavily utilizes AVX and FMA from versions after 26.6, making it unsuitable for safe testing without proper cooling. He recommends using Realbench for stability testing and suggests a more realistic AVX load. He also warns about potential blend failures and advises running multiple memory tests alongside CPU checks. The discussion highlights the importance of stable RAM and a reliable PSU, with some personal experiences shared about gaming temperatures and performance issues.
No worries Ryan, we're here to support you through this.
Biglizard, I think you might be a troll, but I can tell from here. Still, you go ahead and test your system however you like. The rest of us will stick to the established, widely accepted techniques that have consistently proven effective for most overclocking enthusiasts. You're free to proceed, but suggesting AVX testing for those who don't use it, or calling Prime95 Small FFT just for thermal checks, is unrealistic. I suspect you're unfamiliar with silent data corruption or lack practical experience with FFT lengths.
I could be mistaken. You might be the Jedi among overclockers, but I doubt it. I won’t waste time arguing your point further, since it’s clearly a distraction from the real issue—your tendency to share unproven ideas and criticize respected members like Ryan. He knows more about overclocking than you or anyone else will ever understand.
I assure you fully, with 99% certainty, that your Zalman power supply has a high chance—at least 80%—of being at least that effective for your issue. It’s clear that if the power supply itself is of low quality, it will inevitably affect every component, from the VRMs and chipset to the CPU, memory, drives, and storage.
I’m not familiar with more than a handful of Zalman power supplies being well-reviewed or considered solid, let alone reliable. I understand your concerns about running certain utilities without problems, but it’s difficult to maintain stability when dealing with unstable power, especially with issues like voltage spikes, crossloading, and other common power faults.
While OW doesn’t provide many detailed negative points, the feedback it does share is strong enough to suggest that this particular PSU is among the worst rated on JG. I think a more thorough review by someone with deeper expertise—like Aris Mitsopolis—would uncover even more issues. His detailed assessments cover more criteria and are far more comprehensive than typical JG evaluations.
It’s possible you’re facing other problems unrelated to this unit, or even a faulty motherboard. This is why we often start testing with a baseline and then refine our approach later.
Good luck, but be aware you might need more advanced testing if you want a complete picture. The discussion here has been quite heated, so I’ll close it for now.
Biglizard, I recommend you stop using insults. Doing so could lead to penalties against your account.