AC Compressor Cooling Thread
AC Compressor Cooling Thread
USAFRet :
lukem5 :
It's interesting to see that Thermaltake managed this a decade ago and it hasn't become common yet.
The main reasons are:
Costly, unnecessary, overly complicated, and noisy (probably).
Reducing temperature doesn't automatically improve performance or increase output capacity.
Only when the system is genuinely experiencing thermal throttling does it matter.
CPU performance stays the same at 85°C as it is at 60°C.
If you're pushing your CPU to its limits and the voltage and frequency reach a point where temperature becomes the main constraint, then perhaps it could work.
But this applies to very few people.
More often, it's just a limitation of that particular CPU in your setup. No matter how advanced you make it, that chip won't exceed its thermal ceiling.
Under $100, silent installation (about 30 minutes), no condensation… do you think you can meet all these needs?
Yeah, under $100 is ambitious but achievable. The truth is, this technology usually costs over $500 and people would be willing to pay for real performance gains beyond what's available now.
All the other concerns I mentioned were covered in my earlier posts or are just minor issues in my opinion.
Regarding thermal throttling, it looks like most CPUs, except the lowest-tier models, can keep increasing performance as long as temperatures stay controlled. The biggest hurdle is usually overheating caused by higher voltage settings.
Effective cooling is essential.
Picture the standard for nitro cooling in CPUs and GPUs. This is the ultimate aim—technically achievable and real, and I can assure you your kids will notice its impact on their gaming setups!
They experimented with liquid nitrogen and/or oxygen, maintaining the CPU at around -150 C, yet still achieved impressive speeds.
Most systems would gain from additional cooling, because the core stays warmer than the exterior, resulting in lower core temperatures. This cooling method will also involve managing condensation issues.
If the problem isn’t with the CPU itself, but rather the GPU, then the VRM on the GPU will be the main concern—especially since these components run very hot. If the GPU VRM overheats, it can affect the entire setup.
For condensation, a completely sealed case won’t last long; moisture in the air will condense on cooler surfaces when cooled, typically creating a temperature difference of 10 to 15°C.
With both CPU and GPU cooled, their silicon dies have built-in heat exchangers that help dissipate heat, keeping the top surface cooler than the bottom. You could insulate the cooling pipes or cooler’s top, but this might shift condensation to other areas.
You might also consider adding a dehumidifier inside the case to manage humidity after opening it up.
I don't remember this now, but there was a discussion on OCN about it. They mainly used bait boxes or insulated enclosures that they cooled from outside. The computer stayed inside a sealed case. They would reach subzero temperatures to remove all moisture from the air. Then they ran the computer for extended cooling periods at temperatures close to dry ice systems. They used a methanol/glycol mixture, but it could also be done with an evaporator inside, similar to a refrigerated truck.
I notice a lot of handwavium being used in this context. You can't simply label certain user needs as minor. My current Cryorig A80 model costs around $125. Would it be possible to offer one at a lower price? Build one and demonstrate.
I want everyone to picture the equivalent of nitro cooling performance as a standard for CPU/GPU cooling. This is the ultimate aim and it's technically achievable and real - and I can assure you your kids will see its match in their gaming setups, hehe. Please share your vendor association so we can confirm your identity since your account looks like a personal email. If not, don't give the feeling you're affiliated with a company; that would lead to a forum ban.
Lukem5 is here to introduce the next phase of CPU and GPU cooling. It functions similarly to your air conditioning system, but with a super-cooled refrigerant delivered straight to your CPU. It’s quite straightforward. The benefit is you only require a compressor that’s much smaller than your existing AC or fridge.
Is this a concept or a product you’re developing or offering?
You’ve been mentioned several times. If you want to keep the discussion going, please reply.
Either by sending a private message to a moderator involved in this thread, or by posting directly here.
Otherwise, it will be removed.
Dear mods,
You are shifting this discussion into a negative debate format. From the start, my goal was to build an idealization thread about a practical cooling solution that will likely be adopted soon.
I understand people resist change and react negatively, but I feel it’s time we move past that. It brings back that well-known saying: truth goes through three phases—first, it’s ignored; second, it faces strong opposition (it seems we’re entering that stage); third, it becomes accepted as obvious.
I can’t blame you all for showing human nature, but I’d like you to think carefully before posting.
Thank you to everyone who shared useful links and suggestions (though only a few were helpful). I hope this thread remains open for future discussion.