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A Kitguru author criticizes gamers for not demanding Valve meet the same expectations as other studios

A Kitguru author criticizes gamers for not demanding Valve meet the same expectations as other studios

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07-10-2023, 12:44 PM
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Valve appears to be acting responsibly aside from the occasional delay in the Half-Life series. A Kitguru writer recently addressed gamers on this matter, and I completely agree with his perspective. The focus of STEAM sales has shifted from providing value to encouraging players to spend more on titles they’re unlikely to play. This strategy aims to boost trading cards and the chance of winning free items. It doesn’t mean there aren’t good deals, but the constant promotion of hype to extract every penny overshadows any legitimate offers. The piece accurately notes that players would never tolerate such tactics from major developers or retailers like EA or Ubisoft.
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bakedpotatoboy
07-10-2023, 12:44 PM #1

Valve appears to be acting responsibly aside from the occasional delay in the Half-Life series. A Kitguru writer recently addressed gamers on this matter, and I completely agree with his perspective. The focus of STEAM sales has shifted from providing value to encouraging players to spend more on titles they’re unlikely to play. This strategy aims to boost trading cards and the chance of winning free items. It doesn’t mean there aren’t good deals, but the constant promotion of hype to extract every penny overshadows any legitimate offers. The piece accurately notes that players would never tolerate such tactics from major developers or retailers like EA or Ubisoft.

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flyer78
Senior Member
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07-10-2023, 01:14 PM
#2
Interesting perspective! It’s not often I consider purchasing games that I truly enjoy. In my area, the store offers them at a steep discount—sometimes half the price listed by Steam, plus free merchandise if you order ahead. Once it arrives, the game software links to Steam automatically. That’s why I tend to favor indie titles on Steam instead.
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flyer78
07-10-2023, 01:14 PM #2

Interesting perspective! It’s not often I consider purchasing games that I truly enjoy. In my area, the store offers them at a steep discount—sometimes half the price listed by Steam, plus free merchandise if you order ahead. Once it arrives, the game software links to Steam automatically. That’s why I tend to favor indie titles on Steam instead.

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fryzer33
Junior Member
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07-10-2023, 06:45 PM
#3
I totally understand why many people see Valve as just another company, but honestly, they act like they're part of some mysterious, magical rainbow treat!
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fryzer33
07-10-2023, 06:45 PM #3

I totally understand why many people see Valve as just another company, but honestly, they act like they're part of some mysterious, magical rainbow treat!

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Mat77a
Member
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07-25-2023, 08:20 PM
#4
I personally do not bother with the whole meta game trading card thing, I have like millions of cards that I never trade, sell, swap or collect. Its a clever way to make money if you ask me, sure its a little forced buts its easy enough to ignore They also do not have to have sales, or a very good games client with the largest library of publishers and developers. An amazing selection of indie titles, offline mode and a way to backup games to different drives etc They have also made some amazing games over the years like Half Life and TF2. they might not be 100% GOD and many things could be improved but overall I like the service they provide and happily choose to use it! Also... the sale is good, it has very good games. The problem is that since the sales are good and happen often, most of us ALREADY have the games in the sale, that is not their fault. You just own too many games I have a friend who only just bought a gaming pc. This is his first steam sale and he lost his mind. Hes bought like 20 games so far, all for great prices and has a nice library of quality games to play for a super cheap price EDIT: Fed up of people saying the sale is shit, they can only sell games that have been made, If you own all the good pc games then of course there will be nothing in the sale, same as GOG, same as G2A same as anywhere
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Mat77a
07-25-2023, 08:20 PM #4

I personally do not bother with the whole meta game trading card thing, I have like millions of cards that I never trade, sell, swap or collect. Its a clever way to make money if you ask me, sure its a little forced buts its easy enough to ignore They also do not have to have sales, or a very good games client with the largest library of publishers and developers. An amazing selection of indie titles, offline mode and a way to backup games to different drives etc They have also made some amazing games over the years like Half Life and TF2. they might not be 100% GOD and many things could be improved but overall I like the service they provide and happily choose to use it! Also... the sale is good, it has very good games. The problem is that since the sales are good and happen often, most of us ALREADY have the games in the sale, that is not their fault. You just own too many games I have a friend who only just bought a gaming pc. This is his first steam sale and he lost his mind. Hes bought like 20 games so far, all for great prices and has a nice library of quality games to play for a super cheap price EDIT: Fed up of people saying the sale is shit, they can only sell games that have been made, If you own all the good pc games then of course there will be nothing in the sale, same as GOG, same as G2A same as anywhere

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tolgaes
Junior Member
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07-25-2023, 10:01 PM
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No one is pushing anyone to purchase low-quality titles. There are many solid games available that I’ve purchased or have in my collection. Additionally, some people buy games they won’t play for a long time before trading cards became popular.
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tolgaes
07-25-2023, 10:01 PM #5

No one is pushing anyone to purchase low-quality titles. There are many solid games available that I’ve purchased or have in my collection. Additionally, some people buy games they won’t play for a long time before trading cards became popular.

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THE_UNlVERSE
Member
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07-26-2023, 05:44 AM
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I reflected on this a while back. It's only now becoming clear as concerns about sales arise, since the same items are being offered more often.
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THE_UNlVERSE
07-26-2023, 05:44 AM #6

I reflected on this a while back. It's only now becoming clear as concerns about sales arise, since the same items are being offered more often.

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sandieaak
Member
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08-03-2023, 05:39 AM
#7
Unclear if the valve drives the excitement; I doubt they're really necessary. The gaming scene handles it well enough on its own.
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sandieaak
08-03-2023, 05:39 AM #7

Unclear if the valve drives the excitement; I doubt they're really necessary. The gaming scene handles it well enough on its own.

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tifo007
Junior Member
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08-08-2023, 06:32 AM
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People aren't forced to buy Assassin's Creed, yet everyone complains about Ubisoft's promotions that link to pre-orders. EA is buzzing about a new Battlefield game, though no one from DICE is actually developing it. Last year's BF4 launch was a disaster, so gamers are upset about the current push. STEAM used to run major sales a couple times a year, but now they happen more often and focus on encouraging spending for extra rewards. The real problem isn't the sales themselves, but how players react to companies like EA for the same price, while Valve seems to escape consequences.
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tifo007
08-08-2023, 06:32 AM #8

People aren't forced to buy Assassin's Creed, yet everyone complains about Ubisoft's promotions that link to pre-orders. EA is buzzing about a new Battlefield game, though no one from DICE is actually developing it. Last year's BF4 launch was a disaster, so gamers are upset about the current push. STEAM used to run major sales a couple times a year, but now they happen more often and focus on encouraging spending for extra rewards. The real problem isn't the sales themselves, but how players react to companies like EA for the same price, while Valve seems to escape consequences.

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lzwarrior
Member
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08-08-2023, 10:17 AM
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The trading cards aren't essential for anything special. They're easily ignored. I never feel pressured to purchase anything. That piece is totally out of place, it seems like someone rushed it and posted it without much thought. Valve remains a company and will likely try to increase profits. They won't support us or guide us through the ongoing debates about consoles versus PC, nor the various fan-driven trends. They'll offer deals and walk away with our money—this is fine with me, as I'm okay with that. I also noticed the article suggests indie developers aren't worthy of front-page promotion or being sold cheap. What's the point? I still see many high-quality AAA titles on sale, and that doesn't diminish their value. Just because they're not from a well-known publisher doesn't mean Valve should treat them differently. I don’t usually buy indie games often, but I don’t play them frequently either. That’s my stance. In my view, an indie game at a massive discount is attractive because it costs only $2.50 if I don’t like it. If I enjoy it, it’s a nice treat, that’s enough.
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lzwarrior
08-08-2023, 10:17 AM #9

The trading cards aren't essential for anything special. They're easily ignored. I never feel pressured to purchase anything. That piece is totally out of place, it seems like someone rushed it and posted it without much thought. Valve remains a company and will likely try to increase profits. They won't support us or guide us through the ongoing debates about consoles versus PC, nor the various fan-driven trends. They'll offer deals and walk away with our money—this is fine with me, as I'm okay with that. I also noticed the article suggests indie developers aren't worthy of front-page promotion or being sold cheap. What's the point? I still see many high-quality AAA titles on sale, and that doesn't diminish their value. Just because they're not from a well-known publisher doesn't mean Valve should treat them differently. I don’t usually buy indie games often, but I don’t play them frequently either. That’s my stance. In my view, an indie game at a massive discount is attractive because it costs only $2.50 if I don’t like it. If I enjoy it, it’s a nice treat, that’s enough.

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walee123
Senior Member
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08-13-2023, 10:13 AM
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These are two distinct issues. On one side, you paid for a game that didn’t perform well at launch, while on the other, you’re being tempted to buy trading cards. Cards can be obtained simply by playing the games you already have. It comes down to determination—most people, including me, don’t care about cards.
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walee123
08-13-2023, 10:13 AM #10

These are two distinct issues. On one side, you paid for a game that didn’t perform well at launch, while on the other, you’re being tempted to buy trading cards. Cards can be obtained simply by playing the games you already have. It comes down to determination—most people, including me, don’t care about cards.

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