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A beginner attempting to boost a 3600 MHz RAM.

A beginner attempting to boost a 3600 MHz RAM.

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XLottinskiX
Member
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11-26-2019, 05:28 AM
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I think I'm still learning and I wish I hadn't purchased a 3600mhz 32GB RAM from TeamGroup without realizing my AMD 7 1700x might not be compatible with that speed. I'm also using an ASRock motherboard AB350M-HDV.
I've seen tutorials about adjusting the speed through the BIO(UEFI) menu and changed it to 3600mhz, but it caused some errors. Switching it to 3466 MHz gave a normal boot without issues, though the Task Manager shows my speed as 1200 MHz and my RAM frequency is listed as 1197.1 MHz. The SPD mentions the same thing and also explains what the last digit in the XMP Profile means.
Have I already overclocked it? I don't have enough details yet, but I'll get back to you soon with more information.
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XLottinskiX
11-26-2019, 05:28 AM #1

I think I'm still learning and I wish I hadn't purchased a 3600mhz 32GB RAM from TeamGroup without realizing my AMD 7 1700x might not be compatible with that speed. I'm also using an ASRock motherboard AB350M-HDV.
I've seen tutorials about adjusting the speed through the BIO(UEFI) menu and changed it to 3600mhz, but it caused some errors. Switching it to 3466 MHz gave a normal boot without issues, though the Task Manager shows my speed as 1200 MHz and my RAM frequency is listed as 1197.1 MHz. The SPD mentions the same thing and also explains what the last digit in the XMP Profile means.
Have I already overclocked it? I don't have enough details yet, but I'll get back to you soon with more information.

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donnerkebab5
Junior Member
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11-26-2019, 11:03 AM
#2
CPU-Z memory and spd tabs provide the most accurate view of your system performance. In reality, using RAM faster than the standard speed requires overclocking beyond the default 1.2vto setting. Your 3600 speed RAM package likely costs about $10 more than a 3200 speed one. Don’t worry about that difference. The startup lag you notice is the motherboard BIOS searching for compatible RAM settings. To prevent future delays, set the desired running parameters in the BIOS from the start. If your motherboard supports 3200 MHz with a newer processor, it can handle higher speeds.
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donnerkebab5
11-26-2019, 11:03 AM #2

CPU-Z memory and spd tabs provide the most accurate view of your system performance. In reality, using RAM faster than the standard speed requires overclocking beyond the default 1.2vto setting. Your 3600 speed RAM package likely costs about $10 more than a 3200 speed one. Don’t worry about that difference. The startup lag you notice is the motherboard BIOS searching for compatible RAM settings. To prevent future delays, set the desired running parameters in the BIOS from the start. If your motherboard supports 3200 MHz with a newer processor, it can handle higher speeds.

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GucciMixtape
Member
61
11-28-2019, 01:50 PM
#3
You won't achieve 3600MHz with that CPU/motherboard. The 2400 mentioned is likely the actual capacity, possibly reaching up to 2600. Check stability using Memtest86 before proceeding. Booting into Windows doesn't guarantee reliability.
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GucciMixtape
11-28-2019, 01:50 PM #3

You won't achieve 3600MHz with that CPU/motherboard. The 2400 mentioned is likely the actual capacity, possibly reaching up to 2600. Check stability using Memtest86 before proceeding. Booting into Windows doesn't guarantee reliability.

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SillyDragon
Senior Member
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11-29-2019, 12:40 AM
#4
CPU-Z memory and spd tabs provide the most accurate view of your system performance. In reality, using RAM faster than the standard speed requires overclocking beyond the default 1.2vto setting. Your 3600 speed RAM package likely costs about $10 more than a 3200 speed one. Don’t worry about that difference. The startup lag you notice is the motherboard BIOS searching for compatible RAM settings. To prevent future delays, set the intended running parameters in the BIOS from the start. If your motherboard supports 3200 MHz with a newer processor, it can handle higher speeds.
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SillyDragon
11-29-2019, 12:40 AM #4

CPU-Z memory and spd tabs provide the most accurate view of your system performance. In reality, using RAM faster than the standard speed requires overclocking beyond the default 1.2vto setting. Your 3600 speed RAM package likely costs about $10 more than a 3200 speed one. Don’t worry about that difference. The startup lag you notice is the motherboard BIOS searching for compatible RAM settings. To prevent future delays, set the intended running parameters in the BIOS from the start. If your motherboard supports 3200 MHz with a newer processor, it can handle higher speeds.

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wiped_out
Member
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11-29-2019, 02:32 AM
#5
I’m unfamiliar with your mobile system and prefer not to dig into it, but the Ryzen 1700 can handle at least 3000 Mhz on a standard motherboard. Since the XMP profile isn’t enabled, the RAM drops back to 2400 Mhz. The timing settings on RAM modules vary, so my 3600 Mhz setup with R1700 could reach around 2666 Mhz. Of course, I upgraded from the Ryzen 1700 to a 5600x and got faster RAM at the same time. My previous 3000 Mhz system (R1700) could reach up to 3800 Mhz. With the new 5600x, it’s been several years, but I believe the best I achieved was around 3200 or 3333 Mhz using a Ryzen 1700.

The information comes from the Wikipedia page on Serial Presence Detect. It only shows the SPD reading, not actual performance at those speeds.

If you’re considering switching to a CPU like the 5600x, it won’t make much difference. I noticed a noticeable improvement—about 10 frames per second in games—so RAM increased from 3000 to 3800 Mhz and CPU from 1700 to 5600x. The biggest jump came when I upgraded from a Vega56 to an Nvidia 2080, which nearly doubled my FPS.

Would you invest around $200 for a new mobile card supporting 5600x or better, and $300 or more for a CPU that gives you about 10 extra frames? Definitely not.
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wiped_out
11-29-2019, 02:32 AM #5

I’m unfamiliar with your mobile system and prefer not to dig into it, but the Ryzen 1700 can handle at least 3000 Mhz on a standard motherboard. Since the XMP profile isn’t enabled, the RAM drops back to 2400 Mhz. The timing settings on RAM modules vary, so my 3600 Mhz setup with R1700 could reach around 2666 Mhz. Of course, I upgraded from the Ryzen 1700 to a 5600x and got faster RAM at the same time. My previous 3000 Mhz system (R1700) could reach up to 3800 Mhz. With the new 5600x, it’s been several years, but I believe the best I achieved was around 3200 or 3333 Mhz using a Ryzen 1700.

The information comes from the Wikipedia page on Serial Presence Detect. It only shows the SPD reading, not actual performance at those speeds.

If you’re considering switching to a CPU like the 5600x, it won’t make much difference. I noticed a noticeable improvement—about 10 frames per second in games—so RAM increased from 3000 to 3800 Mhz and CPU from 1700 to 5600x. The biggest jump came when I upgraded from a Vega56 to an Nvidia 2080, which nearly doubled my FPS.

Would you invest around $200 for a new mobile card supporting 5600x or better, and $300 or more for a CPU that gives you about 10 extra frames? Definitely not.

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3Edge
Senior Member
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11-30-2019, 03:45 AM
#6
Ensure you have the most recent bios for your motherboard that match your first-generation Ryzen. Many updates focus on memory compatibility. The Ryzen 1700x is officially limited to 2666Mhz, so you might need to adjust the XMP settings in the bios and manually set it to 2666. If this works, you can experiment with increasing frequencies to approach 3000 for your 1700x.
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3Edge
11-30-2019, 03:45 AM #6

Ensure you have the most recent bios for your motherboard that match your first-generation Ryzen. Many updates focus on memory compatibility. The Ryzen 1700x is officially limited to 2666Mhz, so you might need to adjust the XMP settings in the bios and manually set it to 2666. If this works, you can experiment with increasing frequencies to approach 3000 for your 1700x.

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Kyaboy800
Member
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11-30-2019, 05:33 AM
#7
The system is restarting due to performance issues. Open BIOS, turn on XMP profile, adjust the speed to 2933 save, and close.
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Kyaboy800
11-30-2019, 05:33 AM #7

The system is restarting due to performance issues. Open BIOS, turn on XMP profile, adjust the speed to 2933 save, and close.

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PandaPantz
Member
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11-30-2019, 10:29 AM
#8
Oof.
First gen Ryzen could handle 3200MHz stably, though this only works with B-die chips which the Team Group doesn't employ.
3000MHz is a quirky frequency; many boards avoid it because it's a 200Hz bus and AMD favors 266Hz clocks. 2933MHz is the optimal general speed for running older CPU RAM, being a 266Hz variant.
In bios, enable xmp but adjust the RAM speed manually to 2933MHz.
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PandaPantz
11-30-2019, 10:29 AM #8

Oof.
First gen Ryzen could handle 3200MHz stably, though this only works with B-die chips which the Team Group doesn't employ.
3000MHz is a quirky frequency; many boards avoid it because it's a 200Hz bus and AMD favors 266Hz clocks. 2933MHz is the optimal general speed for running older CPU RAM, being a 266Hz variant.
In bios, enable xmp but adjust the RAM speed manually to 2933MHz.