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03-20-2023, 05:31 AM
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@Levent 1) "Back then"? I mean now. You're referring to the present. I'm mentioning that Intel is seen as biased, sure, but what I'm really addressing is how users feel. I'm saying Intel just enjoys more popularity, even though AMD is making solid gains. To be honest, AMD's integrated graphics are what I really admire, and their 7000 series CPUs truly outperform Intel in efficiency—especially for power-saving tasks. You won't hear about them when you're not deeply technical, like choosing a laptop for school or gaming. "Sure, aim for at least 8 GB RAM and an i5." Most OEMs push more Intel options than AMD does. Intel usually leads in market share, which makes it stronger in my view. I'm not promoting Intel, but I respect AMD just as much. Microsoft also leans toward Intel, especially with Windows 11's scheduler built around Intel's hybrid design—something AMD didn't have. Even when Copilot launched, it was tailored for Intel hardware. They ignored AMD completely. I don't know if people really prefer Intel or if it's just business advantage. Or maybe Microsoft couldn't align better with Intel. As a customer, Intel seems like a safer bet right now, doesn't it?

2) Yes, I understand the SOC or 3D-VCache voltage issues existed. It did affect perception. As someone using the product, I’d want to avoid those problems. I know Intel faced its own challenges too. Linux still resents the hybrid core concept on x86. Windows 10 didn’t leverage it well. Recently, Intel introduced APO to improve performance, but many of these issues have been resolved. For now, I consider AMD's struggles fair, though their chips aren't perfect either. The lower clock speeds on X3D chips don’t mean poor performance—just different priorities.

3) Of course they will. I didn’t say they never tried to push higher speeds. But Intel’s maximum boost is still ahead of AMD’s standard. Still, thermal constraints are easier for Intel, especially with turbo unlocked. More gigahertz doesn’t always equal better power or efficiency. It’s a trade-off.

4) That video you shared? It’s not entirely convincing. The 20% drop in performance isn’t as significant as it seems.

5) X3D is still evolving. I’m just pointing out its limitations, not dismissing it outright. Like Intel Arc, it’s a step forward but not perfect. You can always opt for a regular GPU if budget allows.

6) X3D chips are more sensitive to voltage changes. AMD’s processors should handle heat better unless they have enough thermal capacity. In many cases, standard CPUs still perform better in real-world tasks.

7) More specifically, X3D components react more to voltage fluctuations. AMD’s designs might cope better unless they’re pushed beyond their limits. But overall, performance isn’t the only factor—thermal stability matters too.
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03-20-2023, 05:31 AM #11

@Levent 1) "Back then"? I mean now. You're referring to the present. I'm mentioning that Intel is seen as biased, sure, but what I'm really addressing is how users feel. I'm saying Intel just enjoys more popularity, even though AMD is making solid gains. To be honest, AMD's integrated graphics are what I really admire, and their 7000 series CPUs truly outperform Intel in efficiency—especially for power-saving tasks. You won't hear about them when you're not deeply technical, like choosing a laptop for school or gaming. "Sure, aim for at least 8 GB RAM and an i5." Most OEMs push more Intel options than AMD does. Intel usually leads in market share, which makes it stronger in my view. I'm not promoting Intel, but I respect AMD just as much. Microsoft also leans toward Intel, especially with Windows 11's scheduler built around Intel's hybrid design—something AMD didn't have. Even when Copilot launched, it was tailored for Intel hardware. They ignored AMD completely. I don't know if people really prefer Intel or if it's just business advantage. Or maybe Microsoft couldn't align better with Intel. As a customer, Intel seems like a safer bet right now, doesn't it?

2) Yes, I understand the SOC or 3D-VCache voltage issues existed. It did affect perception. As someone using the product, I’d want to avoid those problems. I know Intel faced its own challenges too. Linux still resents the hybrid core concept on x86. Windows 10 didn’t leverage it well. Recently, Intel introduced APO to improve performance, but many of these issues have been resolved. For now, I consider AMD's struggles fair, though their chips aren't perfect either. The lower clock speeds on X3D chips don’t mean poor performance—just different priorities.

3) Of course they will. I didn’t say they never tried to push higher speeds. But Intel’s maximum boost is still ahead of AMD’s standard. Still, thermal constraints are easier for Intel, especially with turbo unlocked. More gigahertz doesn’t always equal better power or efficiency. It’s a trade-off.

4) That video you shared? It’s not entirely convincing. The 20% drop in performance isn’t as significant as it seems.

5) X3D is still evolving. I’m just pointing out its limitations, not dismissing it outright. Like Intel Arc, it’s a step forward but not perfect. You can always opt for a regular GPU if budget allows.

6) X3D chips are more sensitive to voltage changes. AMD’s processors should handle heat better unless they have enough thermal capacity. In many cases, standard CPUs still perform better in real-world tasks.

7) More specifically, X3D components react more to voltage fluctuations. AMD’s designs might cope better unless they’re pushed beyond their limits. But overall, performance isn’t the only factor—thermal stability matters too.

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