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7800X3D Motherboard Issues

7800X3D Motherboard Issues

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cladff
Junior Member
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09-03-2023, 05:55 PM
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Hi everyone - I’m about to install the 7800X3D to swap in for my 4th gen i5, but I’m not sure which motherboards are impacted. I was planning to use a B650 NZXT BOARD, but I don’t want to risk making a mistake if the problem is widespread. I’ve seen videos on Gamers Nexus and Jayztwocents, but I haven’t had time to watch them thoroughly before deciding. As an option, a 7900X is available at today’s prices, though its power consumption makes me lean toward the 7800X3D. If you’ve seen this discussion elsewhere, please share the link—I had a bit of a dilemma. Cheers!
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cladff
09-03-2023, 05:55 PM #1

Hi everyone - I’m about to install the 7800X3D to swap in for my 4th gen i5, but I’m not sure which motherboards are impacted. I was planning to use a B650 NZXT BOARD, but I don’t want to risk making a mistake if the problem is widespread. I’ve seen videos on Gamers Nexus and Jayztwocents, but I haven’t had time to watch them thoroughly before deciding. As an option, a 7900X is available at today’s prices, though its power consumption makes me lean toward the 7800X3D. If you’ve seen this discussion elsewhere, please share the link—I had a bit of a dilemma. Cheers!

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PonySwag619
Member
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09-05-2023, 03:19 AM
#2
It seems you're considering an MSI board like the B650 Tomahawk or a Gigabyte model. No major issues have been reported in tech news, and there don’t appear to be complaints from other manufacturers.
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PonySwag619
09-05-2023, 03:19 AM #2

It seems you're considering an MSI board like the B650 Tomahawk or a Gigabyte model. No major issues have been reported in tech news, and there don’t appear to be complaints from other manufacturers.

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ILoveAsianWiz
Junior Member
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09-09-2023, 06:18 PM
#3
Before the newest firmware, my Gigabyte X670e Aorus Master could push the Vcore up to around 1.39V on CCD0. The updated UEFI resolved that issue. I also verified my CPU and socket since I was swapping the cooler. So far, Gigabyte hasn’t reported the problem that Asus did with similar updates. Now it consistently stays at about 1.29V or lower, maintaining good thermal performance without sacrificing speed.
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ILoveAsianWiz
09-09-2023, 06:18 PM #3

Before the newest firmware, my Gigabyte X670e Aorus Master could push the Vcore up to around 1.39V on CCD0. The updated UEFI resolved that issue. I also verified my CPU and socket since I was swapping the cooler. So far, Gigabyte hasn’t reported the problem that Asus did with similar updates. Now it consistently stays at about 1.29V or lower, maintaining good thermal performance without sacrificing speed.

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MrPlywaczek
Junior Member
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09-09-2023, 10:52 PM
#4
Vcore was always secondary, focusing on vsoc. The Asrock Taichi board has stayed under 1.264 vsoc, based on hwinfo.
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MrPlywaczek
09-09-2023, 10:52 PM #4

Vcore was always secondary, focusing on vsoc. The Asrock Taichi board has stayed under 1.264 vsoc, based on hwinfo.

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betomblok
Member
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09-11-2023, 08:43 AM
#5
There are accounts of similar incidents across all major board suppliers. MSI and NZXT haven't reported much about chip failures, which might be due to their less competitive offerings this year. The problem stemmed from AMD providing incorrect safe voltage limits for the chips. ASUS became the most common choice because they interpreted these guidelines closely and pushed SOC voltage to its maximum at DDR5 6000, whereas other brands tended to be more cautious. Many are criticizing ASUS for their handling of the situation, as they've responded poorly compared to others who managed the crisis better. Recent BIOS updates from all manufacturers have had some issues, mainly because they were released hastily and not thoroughly tested. There were also concerns about compatibility with the 1.0.0.7 AGESA release, but these should resolve within a month.
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betomblok
09-11-2023, 08:43 AM #5

There are accounts of similar incidents across all major board suppliers. MSI and NZXT haven't reported much about chip failures, which might be due to their less competitive offerings this year. The problem stemmed from AMD providing incorrect safe voltage limits for the chips. ASUS became the most common choice because they interpreted these guidelines closely and pushed SOC voltage to its maximum at DDR5 6000, whereas other brands tended to be more cautious. Many are criticizing ASUS for their handling of the situation, as they've responded poorly compared to others who managed the crisis better. Recent BIOS updates from all manufacturers have had some issues, mainly because they were released hastily and not thoroughly tested. There were also concerns about compatibility with the 1.0.0.7 AGESA release, but these should resolve within a month.

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BattleVaces
Member
228
09-11-2023, 09:56 AM
#6
based on what i've noticed, the problem might not be exclusive to ASUS, but the way some people handle it—blaming others for a faulty motherboard—is especially typical of ASUS. i’ve had several gigabyte products mess with me in strange ways, and i feel frustrated by MSI’s marketing tactics. those issues seem minor compared to ASUS’s actions. there are claims about overheating CPUs and warranty voids for affected boards. i’d suggest waiting a month or two before making a decision, then consider alternatives to ASUS. maybe it’s time to update your brand image by choosing something other than ASUS.
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BattleVaces
09-11-2023, 09:56 AM #6

based on what i've noticed, the problem might not be exclusive to ASUS, but the way some people handle it—blaming others for a faulty motherboard—is especially typical of ASUS. i’ve had several gigabyte products mess with me in strange ways, and i feel frustrated by MSI’s marketing tactics. those issues seem minor compared to ASUS’s actions. there are claims about overheating CPUs and warranty voids for affected boards. i’d suggest waiting a month or two before making a decision, then consider alternatives to ASUS. maybe it’s time to update your brand image by choosing something other than ASUS.

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Aleshop777
Member
153
09-11-2023, 01:40 PM
#7
We're using an FPGA build server with a 7900X and Gigabyte Aorus X670 Elite AX, running F8a BIOS with EXPO active. The F8a was previously removed without issues. VSOC performance is within normal range. We could upgrade to the latest F8d version that caps VSOC voltage—we'll monitor.
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Aleshop777
09-11-2023, 01:40 PM #7

We're using an FPGA build server with a 7900X and Gigabyte Aorus X670 Elite AX, running F8a BIOS with EXPO active. The F8a was previously removed without issues. VSOC performance is within normal range. We could upgrade to the latest F8d version that caps VSOC voltage—we'll monitor.

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RAINBOWSkylex
Member
170
09-11-2023, 02:38 PM
#8
Up until now, the best choice is the MSI Tomahawk or MSI Edge WiFi boards. They offer strong VRMs and are generally affordable. You might also consider Gigabyte, but ensure it can support your CPU and other parts effectively.
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RAINBOWSkylex
09-11-2023, 02:38 PM #8

Up until now, the best choice is the MSI Tomahawk or MSI Edge WiFi boards. They offer strong VRMs and are generally affordable. You might also consider Gigabyte, but ensure it can support your CPU and other parts effectively.

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Xterminator390
Junior Member
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09-11-2023, 02:46 PM
#9
Similar to the B650 Elite experience I had, the recent updates (F5b, F5c versus F5a) seem to increase the stock VSOC when EXPO is active. The value jumps from 1.25 to 1.3V, which isn’t harmful but still odd since the BIOS was meant to reduce VSOC.
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Xterminator390
09-11-2023, 02:46 PM #9

Similar to the B650 Elite experience I had, the recent updates (F5b, F5c versus F5a) seem to increase the stock VSOC when EXPO is active. The value jumps from 1.25 to 1.3V, which isn’t harmful but still odd since the BIOS was meant to reduce VSOC.

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IIAnthonyII
Member
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09-11-2023, 04:50 PM
#10
The entire scenario is chaotic. The problem isn't limited to ASUS—they actually manufacture many boards and handled the situation poorly overall. Even though it's uncommon, it might be wise to skip AM5 entirely unless you choose an ASRock model.
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IIAnthonyII
09-11-2023, 04:50 PM #10

The entire scenario is chaotic. The problem isn't limited to ASUS—they actually manufacture many boards and handled the situation poorly overall. Even though it's uncommon, it might be wise to skip AM5 entirely unless you choose an ASRock model.

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