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3D V-cache sounds impressive, yet it's limited to just one processor.

3D V-cache sounds impressive, yet it's limited to just one processor.

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jonspence1234
Junior Member
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04-21-2022, 09:32 PM
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AMD's chips and graphics cards have consistently offered solid performance compared to Intel and Nvidia, mainly due to innovative technologies and efficient product design. 3D V-Cache is no different. Yet only one model has been released with this feature. I see the logic in not expanding the SKU lineup for the 5000 series when the 7000 line is already in development. Even the rumors suggest AMD hasn't adopted this tech across their processors yet. Why?
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jonspence1234
04-21-2022, 09:32 PM #1

AMD's chips and graphics cards have consistently offered solid performance compared to Intel and Nvidia, mainly due to innovative technologies and efficient product design. 3D V-Cache is no different. Yet only one model has been released with this feature. I see the logic in not expanding the SKU lineup for the 5000 series when the 7000 line is already in development. Even the rumors suggest AMD hasn't adopted this tech across their processors yet. Why?

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04-25-2022, 01:50 AM
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NothingAverage
04-25-2022, 01:50 AM #2

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cobble32
Junior Member
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04-25-2022, 07:42 AM
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Need more info? I'll have to wait for the AM5 release. AM4 is no longer available, and it won't be for a while.
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cobble32
04-25-2022, 07:42 AM #3

Need more info? I'll have to wait for the AM5 release. AM4 is no longer available, and it won't be for a while.

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Layos
Junior Member
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04-25-2022, 04:09 PM
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You reach decisions without knowing what AMD or Intel plans next. The 5800X3D launched on the AM4 system to target gamers and challenge Intel’s 12900K. The AM4 line already includes five years of previous processors, so further dilution seems unnecessary.
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Layos
04-25-2022, 04:09 PM #4

You reach decisions without knowing what AMD or Intel plans next. The 5800X3D launched on the AM4 system to target gamers and challenge Intel’s 12900K. The AM4 line already includes five years of previous processors, so further dilution seems unnecessary.

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DaNiggaSWAG
Senior Member
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04-25-2022, 09:26 PM
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AMD launched a last-generation chip for the AM4 socket to match the 12900K and keep support for DDR4. Prices for DDR5 have risen, making it still a costly choice for my builds when comparing AMD’s AM4 and newer platforms. I’ve assembled four AM4 systems for others, but the AM4 line has faded due to expensive RAM costs. We’re learning about Zen 4 from just a few details—possibly some chips with 3D v-cache will appear after the 13th-gen refresh.
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DaNiggaSWAG
04-25-2022, 09:26 PM #5

AMD launched a last-generation chip for the AM4 socket to match the 12900K and keep support for DDR4. Prices for DDR5 have risen, making it still a costly choice for my builds when comparing AMD’s AM4 and newer platforms. I’ve assembled four AM4 systems for others, but the AM4 line has faded due to expensive RAM costs. We’re learning about Zen 4 from just a few details—possibly some chips with 3D v-cache will appear after the 13th-gen refresh.

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Bippster
Junior Member
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04-30-2022, 11:12 AM
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They aimed to release something that could match the 12900KS/12th generation offerings.
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Bippster
04-30-2022, 11:12 AM #6

They aimed to release something that could match the 12900KS/12th generation offerings.

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timmundberg
Junior Member
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04-30-2022, 04:22 PM
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3D V-cache represents a costly solution with minimal appeal in everyday consumer use. Beyond specialized professional tasks—such as certain code compilations, encryption, compression, and mathematical operations—it offers the fewest advantages outside of elite gaming setups. Most gamers rely on GPU power, making this technology largely irrelevant for general purposes. Unless you own a high-end model like the 3080/6800XT and are playing at lower resolutions, the 5800X3D likely won’t deliver noticeable gains. Gaming itself is not a mainstream market, so the value of V-cache remains confined to a small segment. How many models are truly necessary to meet the demands of high-end gamers? Imagine a 5600X3D priced at $300—why would anyone choose it? For someone already spending over $800 on a GPU, a 6-core CPU seems unnecessary. The next viable choice might be a 5950X3D with 16 cores, but adding a second chip like a 2 CCD would probably exceed budget limits and fail to gain traction against the 12900K. At that price point, even the more expensive options start looking reasonable, but only affluent buyers with a strong financial stake would consider them. In short, V-cache serves a very specific audience; outside of that niche, it holds little practical worth.
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timmundberg
04-30-2022, 04:22 PM #7

3D V-cache represents a costly solution with minimal appeal in everyday consumer use. Beyond specialized professional tasks—such as certain code compilations, encryption, compression, and mathematical operations—it offers the fewest advantages outside of elite gaming setups. Most gamers rely on GPU power, making this technology largely irrelevant for general purposes. Unless you own a high-end model like the 3080/6800XT and are playing at lower resolutions, the 5800X3D likely won’t deliver noticeable gains. Gaming itself is not a mainstream market, so the value of V-cache remains confined to a small segment. How many models are truly necessary to meet the demands of high-end gamers? Imagine a 5600X3D priced at $300—why would anyone choose it? For someone already spending over $800 on a GPU, a 6-core CPU seems unnecessary. The next viable choice might be a 5950X3D with 16 cores, but adding a second chip like a 2 CCD would probably exceed budget limits and fail to gain traction against the 12900K. At that price point, even the more expensive options start looking reasonable, but only affluent buyers with a strong financial stake would consider them. In short, V-cache serves a very specific audience; outside of that niche, it holds little practical worth.