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2007's mid to late period saw the introduction of Windows 10.

2007's mid to late period saw the introduction of Windows 10.

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tiffany03
Junior Member
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07-01-2016, 08:32 PM
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I grabbed a mid/late 2007 MacBook (model A1181, exact release hard to recall) that now has its memory boosted to 4 gigabytes. It's currently running OS X 10.7.5, which is the most recent officially supported version, and that’s where my problems start. I’m weighing a few paths: follow @Droidbot’s advice to try mlPostFactor and upgrade OS X, or install 10.7.5 on another drive, wipe the existing one, and install Windows 10 there. Or, I’m uncertain if this would actually work—keep 10.7.5 and run Windows 10 alongside.

Yes, I know this machine is quite old, and performance will be noticeably slower compared to my current setup—it’s like a decade of improvements missing. Video playback in Chrome is problematic (using an older version might be the issue), and switching apps feels slow, taking about 5–7 seconds. I’ve noticed the resource manager isn’t using resources efficiently enough to match the system’s speed.

Despite these concerns, I still want to experiment with OS X. That’s why I’m considering a dual-boot setup (if not already set up). While it seems possible to install Windows 10, driver support is unreliable—many users report BT, camera, and sound issues. Most fixes suggest these components don’t work well.

If Windows 10 functions properly, I plan to spend a few dollars refurbishing the laptop. I need a battery that lasts at least ten minutes, since the charger itself is faulty and I’ll have to replace it. A battery costs around $35–40 locally, which isn’t cheap, especially given the $35 price tag on the laptop itself. The charger is another $40, so I’ll fix the one I have. I might even look for a non-Apple charger with matching specs and swap in the MagSafe cable.

One big reason I want Windows is to run the school software that isn’t available on Linux or OS X—this is custom-built by students and teachers a few years back. That, combined with the lack of support for 10.7.5, leaves me in a tricky spot.

What do you think? Should I reach out to @DrMacintosh for advice?
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tiffany03
07-01-2016, 08:32 PM #1

I grabbed a mid/late 2007 MacBook (model A1181, exact release hard to recall) that now has its memory boosted to 4 gigabytes. It's currently running OS X 10.7.5, which is the most recent officially supported version, and that’s where my problems start. I’m weighing a few paths: follow @Droidbot’s advice to try mlPostFactor and upgrade OS X, or install 10.7.5 on another drive, wipe the existing one, and install Windows 10 there. Or, I’m uncertain if this would actually work—keep 10.7.5 and run Windows 10 alongside.

Yes, I know this machine is quite old, and performance will be noticeably slower compared to my current setup—it’s like a decade of improvements missing. Video playback in Chrome is problematic (using an older version might be the issue), and switching apps feels slow, taking about 5–7 seconds. I’ve noticed the resource manager isn’t using resources efficiently enough to match the system’s speed.

Despite these concerns, I still want to experiment with OS X. That’s why I’m considering a dual-boot setup (if not already set up). While it seems possible to install Windows 10, driver support is unreliable—many users report BT, camera, and sound issues. Most fixes suggest these components don’t work well.

If Windows 10 functions properly, I plan to spend a few dollars refurbishing the laptop. I need a battery that lasts at least ten minutes, since the charger itself is faulty and I’ll have to replace it. A battery costs around $35–40 locally, which isn’t cheap, especially given the $35 price tag on the laptop itself. The charger is another $40, so I’ll fix the one I have. I might even look for a non-Apple charger with matching specs and swap in the MagSafe cable.

One big reason I want Windows is to run the school software that isn’t available on Linux or OS X—this is custom-built by students and teachers a few years back. That, combined with the lack of support for 10.7.5, leaves me in a tricky spot.

What do you think? Should I reach out to @DrMacintosh for advice?

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iTuGfaPvP
Junior Member
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07-02-2016, 04:27 AM
#2
Determine the operating system compatible with Bootcamp. Generally, machines from before 2010 may support Windows 10 bootcamp, though Windows 8.1 is more likely to work. Newer systems might not be compatible. If your machine has at least 4GB RAM, you could probably upgrade to OSX 10.11 El Capitan, but that’s the limit for macOS support.
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iTuGfaPvP
07-02-2016, 04:27 AM #2

Determine the operating system compatible with Bootcamp. Generally, machines from before 2010 may support Windows 10 bootcamp, though Windows 8.1 is more likely to work. Newer systems might not be compatible. If your machine has at least 4GB RAM, you could probably upgrade to OSX 10.11 El Capitan, but that’s the limit for macOS support.

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DiamndQueen
Member
210
07-02-2016, 04:55 AM
#3
There are numerous instructions for setting up Windows 10 on this system (many of them erase everything and reinstall Win10, which isn't what I aim for). In an ideal scenario, I'd like to dual boot or upgrade OS X alongside Windows 10 without using Bootcamp. If it functions on the Core Duo, that's great; otherwise, I'm wary of forcing x32, as it would consume a lot of memory. Once Windows 7 is installed, I could easily upgrade to Windows 10. The version 10.7.5 is the final one officially supporting A1181, while later releases face problems with the integrated GPU.
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DiamndQueen
07-02-2016, 04:55 AM #3

There are numerous instructions for setting up Windows 10 on this system (many of them erase everything and reinstall Win10, which isn't what I aim for). In an ideal scenario, I'd like to dual boot or upgrade OS X alongside Windows 10 without using Bootcamp. If it functions on the Core Duo, that's great; otherwise, I'm wary of forcing x32, as it would consume a lot of memory. Once Windows 7 is installed, I could easily upgrade to Windows 10. The version 10.7.5 is the final one officially supporting A1181, while later releases face problems with the integrated GPU.

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sfajar
Member
183
07-04-2016, 05:07 AM
#4
According to Apple, you can't install updates beyond Windows 7 when using Bootcamp.
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sfajar
07-04-2016, 05:07 AM #4

According to Apple, you can't install updates beyond Windows 7 when using Bootcamp.

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ReagBros
Junior Member
14
07-13-2016, 05:59 AM
#5
But the 2007 models are 64 Bit capable due to using Core 2 Duos...... Unless I'm missing something. k.
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ReagBros
07-13-2016, 05:59 AM #5

But the 2007 models are 64 Bit capable due to using Core 2 Duos...... Unless I'm missing something. k.

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_TheBanana_
Junior Member
41
07-13-2016, 12:24 PM
#6
32-bit EFI is why it remains locked at 10.7.5—it was the final official release supporting 32-bit. MLPostFactor runs an early Mountain Lion beta kernel that accommodates both 32-bit and 64-bit EFI and kexts, enabling Lion kexts to be loaded.
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_TheBanana_
07-13-2016, 12:24 PM #6

32-bit EFI is why it remains locked at 10.7.5—it was the final official release supporting 32-bit. MLPostFactor runs an early Mountain Lion beta kernel that accommodates both 32-bit and 64-bit EFI and kexts, enabling Lion kexts to be loaded.

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JakeHero
Junior Member
36
07-13-2016, 04:05 PM
#7
Yes, using MLPostFactor would likely require relying on Mountain Lion instead.
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JakeHero
07-13-2016, 04:05 PM #7

Yes, using MLPostFactor would likely require relying on Mountain Lion instead.

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07-14-2016, 02:21 PM
#8
AluminiumTech has the correct point, Apple no longer backs anything before Windows 7, and your system from 07 is outdated for that. Look at the alternatives in this discussion to explore options beyond the official ways.
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MeltedMarsBarr
07-14-2016, 02:21 PM #8

AluminiumTech has the correct point, Apple no longer backs anything before Windows 7, and your system from 07 is outdated for that. Look at the alternatives in this discussion to explore options beyond the official ways.

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ItsTheSoul
Senior Member
410
07-16-2016, 08:58 PM
#9
Recent progress: Attempted bootcamp setup, keyboard stopped working during 8.1 x64 boot. Planning to test with Windows 7 and 8.1 x32. Installed rEFIt but didn’t have time last night. Will keep trying this weekend. Considering MLPostFactor as an alternative to see if it helps install x64.
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ItsTheSoul
07-16-2016, 08:58 PM #9

Recent progress: Attempted bootcamp setup, keyboard stopped working during 8.1 x64 boot. Planning to test with Windows 7 and 8.1 x32. Installed rEFIt but didn’t have time last night. Will keep trying this weekend. Considering MLPostFactor as an alternative to see if it helps install x64.

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xXRattataXx
Member
175
07-18-2016, 01:21 AM
#10
You need a suitable software for your school work, such as word processors, presentation tools, and educational apps.
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xXRattataXx
07-18-2016, 01:21 AM #10

You need a suitable software for your school work, such as word processors, presentation tools, and educational apps.

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