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14700k or Ryzen options available.

14700k or Ryzen options available.

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Claretatt
Junior Member
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03-23-2023, 06:17 PM
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You're considering a mix of Intel and Ryzen processors. The Ryzen 7800X3D is a solid choice for gaming and productivity, while Intel remains popular. A 14700K with Z690 and 32GB DDR5 RAM fits your needs. Ryzen offers competitive pricing for similar performance. For overclocking, you'll want an AM5 motherboard chipset.
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Claretatt
03-23-2023, 06:17 PM #1

You're considering a mix of Intel and Ryzen processors. The Ryzen 7800X3D is a solid choice for gaming and productivity, while Intel remains popular. A 14700K with Z690 and 32GB DDR5 RAM fits your needs. Ryzen offers competitive pricing for similar performance. For overclocking, you'll want an AM5 motherboard chipset.

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Quackz_
Member
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03-24-2023, 01:25 AM
#2
Avoid overclocking the 7800X3D using PBO/CO; it’s already top-tier for gaming. The 14700K offers more cores and threads, making it ideal for productivity tasks. Consider what kind of work you plan to do to determine the best fit.
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Quackz_
03-24-2023, 01:25 AM #2

Avoid overclocking the 7800X3D using PBO/CO; it’s already top-tier for gaming. The 14700K offers more cores and threads, making it ideal for productivity tasks. Consider what kind of work you plan to do to determine the best fit.

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BluRamzy
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04-04-2023, 05:16 AM
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In reality, overclocking CPUs is nearly impossible these days. The focus has shifted to voltage adjustments so that their clocks align with specifications. You can manually adjust each core's speed, but they can't exceed their rated limits anymore. Ryzen X3 chips don’t support overclocking at all. The only options are BLCK settings (not advised) and PBO voltage tuning. If you’re just gaming at 7800x3D, it makes more sense. It depends on what you consider productivity. For occasional video work, 7800x3D works well. It consumes less power on average compared to high-end models, and can run efficiently during lighter tasks.
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BluRamzy
04-04-2023, 05:16 AM #3

In reality, overclocking CPUs is nearly impossible these days. The focus has shifted to voltage adjustments so that their clocks align with specifications. You can manually adjust each core's speed, but they can't exceed their rated limits anymore. Ryzen X3 chips don’t support overclocking at all. The only options are BLCK settings (not advised) and PBO voltage tuning. If you’re just gaming at 7800x3D, it makes more sense. It depends on what you consider productivity. For occasional video work, 7800x3D works well. It consumes less power on average compared to high-end models, and can run efficiently during lighter tasks.

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Unoree
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04-04-2023, 05:48 AM
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It seems the cost difference between the two options isn't significant if you purchase similar components (14700k and 7800X3D). I think you're thinking Z690 was released with the 12th generation. I'm assuming the board supports USB flashback. AMD CPUs and motherboards aren't restricted, so you don't need a Z690 board plus a K CPU like Intel does. X3D chips aren't typically overclocked. Right now, overclocking offers little benefit thanks to turbo modes; undervolting is more common. As mentioned, productivity usually favors the 14700K, but it depends on how demanding your tasks are—7800X3D works if your workload isn't too heavy. APO could also be worth considering if you're chasing every fraction of a percent, as it shows solid improvements.
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Unoree
04-04-2023, 05:48 AM #4

It seems the cost difference between the two options isn't significant if you purchase similar components (14700k and 7800X3D). I think you're thinking Z690 was released with the 12th generation. I'm assuming the board supports USB flashback. AMD CPUs and motherboards aren't restricted, so you don't need a Z690 board plus a K CPU like Intel does. X3D chips aren't typically overclocked. Right now, overclocking offers little benefit thanks to turbo modes; undervolting is more common. As mentioned, productivity usually favors the 14700K, but it depends on how demanding your tasks are—7800X3D works if your workload isn't too heavy. APO could also be worth considering if you're chasing every fraction of a percent, as it shows solid improvements.

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Lilghost234
Junior Member
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04-04-2023, 06:44 AM
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We’re discussing various productivity-focused tasks. Some users might gain from additional eco features and/or the IGPU 7800x3d, which can only be overclocked on boards with an external clock generator (ECLK). Even then, thermal constraints remain high because of the 3D cache and inefficient IHS design. More affordable options include the B650e Taichi (lite) or X670E-A/F, typically priced over $250. If you aim for viability, consider building a phase change cooler since Intel generates excessive heat that prevents effective thermal transfer. A high-performance board is essential, as even a cooled X3D CPU with the L3 cache still struggles under load. You’ll need a robust unit capable of staying below -50°C to avoid thermal throttling or crashes. For better results, explore 6GHz+ all-core boards that deliver noticeable gains. These options require significant investment—often exceeding $500—and demand careful cooling solutions.

Other differences between Intel and AMD lie in board quality. AMD generally offers superior boards at lower prices, thanks to their more overbuilt designs. For example, even a budget B650M HDV can run an overclocked 7950X, whereas a cheap Intel Z6/790 might struggle with stock speeds of 14700k. Budget boards usually have fewer I/O ports and less capacity compared to their pricier counterparts. The B650 LiveMixer, priced around $150, supports 21 USB ports and offers ample expansion options. Meanwhile, the AMD 1700 board is LGA1700 compatible, allowing easy upgrades without swapping the motherboard.
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Lilghost234
04-04-2023, 06:44 AM #5

We’re discussing various productivity-focused tasks. Some users might gain from additional eco features and/or the IGPU 7800x3d, which can only be overclocked on boards with an external clock generator (ECLK). Even then, thermal constraints remain high because of the 3D cache and inefficient IHS design. More affordable options include the B650e Taichi (lite) or X670E-A/F, typically priced over $250. If you aim for viability, consider building a phase change cooler since Intel generates excessive heat that prevents effective thermal transfer. A high-performance board is essential, as even a cooled X3D CPU with the L3 cache still struggles under load. You’ll need a robust unit capable of staying below -50°C to avoid thermal throttling or crashes. For better results, explore 6GHz+ all-core boards that deliver noticeable gains. These options require significant investment—often exceeding $500—and demand careful cooling solutions.

Other differences between Intel and AMD lie in board quality. AMD generally offers superior boards at lower prices, thanks to their more overbuilt designs. For example, even a budget B650M HDV can run an overclocked 7950X, whereas a cheap Intel Z6/790 might struggle with stock speeds of 14700k. Budget boards usually have fewer I/O ports and less capacity compared to their pricier counterparts. The B650 LiveMixer, priced around $150, supports 21 USB ports and offers ample expansion options. Meanwhile, the AMD 1700 board is LGA1700 compatible, allowing easy upgrades without swapping the motherboard.