F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop 12th Gen Intel or Ryzen 5000 — both offer solid performance, but choose based on your needs.

12th Gen Intel or Ryzen 5000 — both offer solid performance, but choose based on your needs.

12th Gen Intel or Ryzen 5000 — both offer solid performance, but choose based on your needs.

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Yortix
Junior Member
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
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It's uncommon for me to seek assistance here; I usually provide help. But I’m new to the latest 12th Gen Intel chips. I own an i9-9900k and am considering switching to a Ryzen 5000 series, the i7-12700k, or even the i9-12900k. The 9900k has been my favorite since it came out, and I’m excited about a recent promotion—so I’m eager to take advantage of Black Friday offers this year. My current setup includes the i9-9900k, an Aorus Z390 Master, Corsair H150i XT, 32GB (4x8GB) 3200mhz Trident Z RAM, Asus ROG Strix 3090 OC, a 3.5TB NVMe drive with three units, a 500GB SATA SSD, and a 2TB mechanical hard drive. I also have an 850W 80+ Gold Evga Supernova power supply, all neatly housed in a Phanteks P500A White case.

I’m not familiar with the new 12th Gen Intel processors yet; I’ve seen some videos suggesting they offer solid performance improvements over the Ryzen lineup, but I haven’t tested them directly. My only real-world data comes from reviews and benchmarks shared by others.

Here are a few ideas I’ve gathered. I’m open to suggestions, especially if you have a better setup or think an 11th Gen i9 would be worth it given today’s prices. Please share your thoughts.

I’d also like to note that I’m primarily ordering through Bestbuy because I have over $150 in rewards points. DDR5 isn’t available with the stores I’ve checked, so if it’s still worth considering, I’d prefer to stick with DDR4. That’s why I’m choosing the Z690 board, which supports DDR4.

If anyone has tried the 12th Gen and believes DDR5 is essential, I’ll look for alternatives. I’m willing to order from other places if needed, but ideally I want the motherboard and CPU from Bestbuy.

Thanks again—please let me know your opinion.
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Yortix
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #1

It's uncommon for me to seek assistance here; I usually provide help. But I’m new to the latest 12th Gen Intel chips. I own an i9-9900k and am considering switching to a Ryzen 5000 series, the i7-12700k, or even the i9-12900k. The 9900k has been my favorite since it came out, and I’m excited about a recent promotion—so I’m eager to take advantage of Black Friday offers this year. My current setup includes the i9-9900k, an Aorus Z390 Master, Corsair H150i XT, 32GB (4x8GB) 3200mhz Trident Z RAM, Asus ROG Strix 3090 OC, a 3.5TB NVMe drive with three units, a 500GB SATA SSD, and a 2TB mechanical hard drive. I also have an 850W 80+ Gold Evga Supernova power supply, all neatly housed in a Phanteks P500A White case.

I’m not familiar with the new 12th Gen Intel processors yet; I’ve seen some videos suggesting they offer solid performance improvements over the Ryzen lineup, but I haven’t tested them directly. My only real-world data comes from reviews and benchmarks shared by others.

Here are a few ideas I’ve gathered. I’m open to suggestions, especially if you have a better setup or think an 11th Gen i9 would be worth it given today’s prices. Please share your thoughts.

I’d also like to note that I’m primarily ordering through Bestbuy because I have over $150 in rewards points. DDR5 isn’t available with the stores I’ve checked, so if it’s still worth considering, I’d prefer to stick with DDR4. That’s why I’m choosing the Z690 board, which supports DDR4.

If anyone has tried the 12th Gen and believes DDR5 is essential, I’ll look for alternatives. I’m willing to order from other places if needed, but ideally I want the motherboard and CPU from Bestbuy.

Thanks again—please let me know your opinion.

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megapixel74
Member
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#2
Intel stands out for its superior performance, though adopting it early comes with higher expenses
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megapixel74
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #2

Intel stands out for its superior performance, though adopting it early comes with higher expenses

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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#3
It varies based on your use case—could miss out on benefits if it's just a standard version. For a premium upgrade, I'd choose the 12700K.
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Awesome_Aaron_
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #3

It varies based on your use case—could miss out on benefits if it's just a standard version. For a premium upgrade, I'd choose the 12700K.

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JamesHond7
Posting Freak
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#4
I handle various tasks—primarily building gaming setups, plus 4K video editing and rendering. This upgrade feels like a big step forward.
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JamesHond7
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #4

I handle various tasks—primarily building gaming setups, plus 4K video editing and rendering. This upgrade feels like a big step forward.

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jrobbs7
Member
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#5
I remind myself each day to hold off until the 13th generation before upgrading from my 10-year-old 10900K machine. My mind slowly makes the upgrade seem a little more reasonable. Ugh.
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jrobbs7
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #5

I remind myself each day to hold off until the 13th generation before upgrading from my 10-year-old 10900K machine. My mind slowly makes the upgrade seem a little more reasonable. Ugh.

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yalo29
Senior Member
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#6
They perform almost identically, so the choice mainly depends on cost or preference. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articl...ndup-2248/ That said, I switched from the 9900k to the 5800x and have really liked AMD so far. Power usage is also worth considering if that matters. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel...en/20.html
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yalo29
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #6

They perform almost identically, so the choice mainly depends on cost or preference. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articl...ndup-2248/ That said, I switched from the 9900k to the 5800x and have really liked AMD so far. Power usage is also worth considering if that matters. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel...en/20.html

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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#7
It seems AMD is nearing completion of its AM4 CPUs, which might suggest a more favorable route for future upgrades. If you opt for an AMD 5000 series CPU with an AM4 motherboard now, you'd likely need to replace the motherboard later for significant upgrades. This could balance out some of the claims about AMD being cheaper.
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SpeedyConsaleZ
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #7

It seems AMD is nearing completion of its AM4 CPUs, which might suggest a more favorable route for future upgrades. If you opt for an AMD 5000 series CPU with an AM4 motherboard now, you'd likely need to replace the motherboard later for significant upgrades. This could balance out some of the claims about AMD being cheaper.

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ausgebildet
Junior Member
33
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#8
It was also something I had in mind.
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ausgebildet
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #8

It was also something I had in mind.

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Ell_Mexicanos
Junior Member
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10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#9
This is another issue, though. Yes, Intel generally is two CPU generations per mobo generation. However, you gotta pick DDR4 or DDR5 now. Right now, DDR4 makes more sense, because it's more available and more affordable, and also current DDR4 is pretty close (and better in some circumstances) than DDR5. But by the time 13th gen comes out? Will it even still have a DDR4 controller? Even if it does, with much better and higher performing DDR5, you'd want to get that instead anyway. You almost have to get DDR5 now to ensure a better upgrade path tomorrow...but then you'd be looking at buying crappy DDR5 now and probably wanting to upgrade to better DDR5 for 13th gen. Which probably makes more sense to just get a whole new setup for 13th gen. I wouldn't consider upgrade path meaningful at this point.
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Ell_Mexicanos
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #9

This is another issue, though. Yes, Intel generally is two CPU generations per mobo generation. However, you gotta pick DDR4 or DDR5 now. Right now, DDR4 makes more sense, because it's more available and more affordable, and also current DDR4 is pretty close (and better in some circumstances) than DDR5. But by the time 13th gen comes out? Will it even still have a DDR4 controller? Even if it does, with much better and higher performing DDR5, you'd want to get that instead anyway. You almost have to get DDR5 now to ensure a better upgrade path tomorrow...but then you'd be looking at buying crappy DDR5 now and probably wanting to upgrade to better DDR5 for 13th gen. Which probably makes more sense to just get a whole new setup for 13th gen. I wouldn't consider upgrade path meaningful at this point.

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DevDoesYT
Junior Member
12
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM
#10
This is a valid point. For right now I think I'm going to go with this, if I have to buy another board later down the line when DDR5 is more worth it to me I will. But until then I'm confident with this as an upgrade. And using DDR4 for right now doesn't seem to be an issue. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VKqK3
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DevDoesYT
10-29-2016, 06:41 PM #10

This is a valid point. For right now I think I'm going to go with this, if I have to buy another board later down the line when DDR5 is more worth it to me I will. But until then I'm confident with this as an upgrade. And using DDR4 for right now doesn't seem to be an issue. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VKqK3

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