Zen 4 promises to be a genuine advancement over Zen 3, offering significant improvements and new features.
Zen 4 promises to be a genuine advancement over Zen 3, offering significant improvements and new features.
from everything i've seen it'll be a massive upgrade from zen 3, and the 5800x3d was a test run. We won't be able to run 300w and cool it like the intel chips, so it's likely gonna be 200w vs 300w again. AMD likely dropped the ball a bit on milking their lead over intel and will lose in single core slightly this time. ddr5 motherboards are awful atm at ram overclocking so i don't expect them to be future proof, the main reason i haven't looked at 12th gen is waiting on cl32 6400 ram; also 2 slot boards that will cost a kidney and a half. It won't nearly be as bad as zen 1 was, bugs sure, wait for review, i'll be jumping on the 16core relatively early.
For you, it's not. You're focused on getting what you already have on your PC function properly. These are two very different approaches. Many people still think this way, including myself, and we've maintained this perspective for a long time. Not everything revolves around necessity.
If I hadn't been drawn to the latest trends, I would have stayed with the 1700 and GTX1650 Super. They’ve been sitting on my desk for a while now. I thought they weren’t performing well, so I decided to upgrade for better performance and future readiness. I believed a 5900X paired with an RTX3060 would be a solid choice for a straightforward GPU upgrade, avoiding the need for a full system overhaul or combining CPU and GPU. This is why I chose the 5900X instead of the 5600X with a 3080Ti. Also, the PBO didn’t show significant improvements compared to the 5600X, as noted by several reviewers. I feel it’s not worth the investment for extra features that won’t make a difference, and I think the AM5 might not be needed in consumer builds anytime soon.
The main question is whether Zen 4 offers a significant enough improvement over Zen 3 to ensure long-term compatibility with future graphics cards without becoming a performance bottleneck. Would it be better to upgrade to a 5900X running on Zen 3, or continue using a Zen 3 system with DDR4 and plan to switch to a 7900X later? My priority is having a solid gaming experience for several years, especially since I won’t have access to high-end CPUs until late September. The weekends are now free for watching football, whereas they’ll be busy with games in the summer. I’m not sure if waiting until then would give me a better deal, but I’d miss out on performance when Zen 4 arrives. I’m also concerned about AMD’s upcoming Big.Little design, which I don’t prefer. The real concern is how much the instruction performance will increase—some estimates suggest only a modest gain, around 5% to 10%. Still, faster clock speeds sound promising. I’m also thinking about DDR5 memory for future games and the need for more PCIe lanes, but those upgrades aren’t my main focus. What matters most is building a system that can handle new graphics cards easily and run the latest titles smoothly for years to come.
It seems you're questioning the relevance of zen4 or AM5 platforms. Let me know how I can assist further!
AMD kept supporting the AM4 architecture for six years, and upcoming plans seem to stick closely to that. Personally, I wouldn’t switch from Zen3 to Zen4, but I don’t believe it’s smart to ignore the AM5 path. You could install a 6000-core processor and later upgrade to a 9000-core chip without needing a new motherboard. Also, if you’re concerned about Zen4’s speed, I’m confident it will surpass Zen3 in performance. According to the official presentations, AMD has stated that Zen4 should offer at least the same 15% improvement over Zen3. It’s clear they’re intentionally downplaying the benefits of Zen4. If improvements in instruction per cycle or clock speed don’t matter to you, remember that Zen4 will still represent a larger leap forward.
Absolutely. The situation hinges more on personal preference than on a clear-cut right or wrong. Some people are willing to pay a premium for performance that won't be available for several years, while others expect faster returns. My point is just to consider that it probably won't suit everyone. I should note I recently built a new machine in March, even before learning about the AM5, and I wouldn't have waited longer if I'd known the machine wouldn't meet my needs in six months. Updated June 21, 2022 by An0maly_76 Added more details
Aim for a 30%+ boost across most of your apps to feel worthwhile. I’ll likely skip both 13th and Zen4.