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Your i5 4690k's multiplier and core numbers are under review. Please share your thoughts! Thanks!!

Your i5 4690k's multiplier and core numbers are under review. Please share your thoughts! Thanks!!

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Mr_D_Trump
Junior Member
30
08-26-2016, 03:36 AM
#1
I did this overclocking for the first time. I began at 40 multi with a vcore of 1.00, then increased to 42 with a vcore of 1.1. After that, I tried 44 multi and 1.10 vcore but it failed, so I switched to 1.15 vcore. Current settings are idle at 35c and max load at 61c.

Questions:
1) Are there other adjustments I should consider besides the multiplier and vcore?
2) Should I keep going or return to my current setting?
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Mr_D_Trump
08-26-2016, 03:36 AM #1

I did this overclocking for the first time. I began at 40 multi with a vcore of 1.00, then increased to 42 with a vcore of 1.1. After that, I tried 44 multi and 1.10 vcore but it failed, so I switched to 1.15 vcore. Current settings are idle at 35c and max load at 61c.

Questions:
1) Are there other adjustments I should consider besides the multiplier and vcore?
2) Should I keep going or return to my current setting?

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Blossommm
Member
189
08-26-2016, 05:19 AM
#2
Begin your journey into overclocking by following this resource to build foundational knowledge. Explore the guide at the provided link, which covers essential concepts and methods. Within the club, you’ll find detailed member settings and comparisons to help tailor your approach. There are no universal solutions—especially with modern Intel CPUs—so consider whether you want full performance, energy efficiency, or complete customization.
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Blossommm
08-26-2016, 05:19 AM #2

Begin your journey into overclocking by following this resource to build foundational knowledge. Explore the guide at the provided link, which covers essential concepts and methods. Within the club, you’ll find detailed member settings and comparisons to help tailor your approach. There are no universal solutions—especially with modern Intel CPUs—so consider whether you want full performance, energy efficiency, or complete customization.

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mark_mister
Junior Member
38
08-27-2016, 02:45 PM
#3
These were my initial "first day" configurations at 44 on 4770k... your CPU should have a lower Vcore compared to your hardware.
44/44/44/XMP - Refers to 44 Multiplier / 44 Max. Cache / 44 Min, Cache / XMP DRAM setting
If you aren't using image editing or similar programs, you can disregard cache ratios and stick with the defaults.
44/44/44/XMP (2400)
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VCore 1.260
VCC Ring 1.260
VCCIN (Ev) 1.880
DRAM 1.700
Average Max Core Temp = 59.0C (24.5C Ambient)
46/43/43/XMP (2400)
VCore 1.385
VCC Ring 1.385
VCCIN (Ev) 2.020
DRAM 1.700
Average Max Core Temp = 69.0C (23.0C Ambient)
Begin with these as a stress test and monitoring
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php...load-Links
http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
These settings are based on Asus BIOS... specifications may vary among vendors. After adjusting the BIOS to defaults, enter these values and right-click to save them to your favorites page. This will let you access all necessary adjustments without navigating excessively in the BIOS.
AI Overclock Tuner = Auto
1-Core Ratio Limit = 42 (all others should adjust automatically when all cores are selected)
Max. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Min. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Fully Manual Mode = Disabled
Core Voltage = Adaptive
Extra Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.200
Core Cache Voltage = Adaptive
Extra Turbo Mode CPU Cache Voltage = Auto
Final CPU Input Voltage = 1.90
DRAM Voltage = Auto
Open Real Bench, select Benchmark Tab – check only the last box. Use HWiNFO64 and run "sensors only" as described. Start Real Bench without touching the mouse until complete. Monitor voltages and temperatures. If you manage to complete these two minutes, you're in the clear.
Next, test all four options and repeat. REMEMBER: During the third test, the CL will send AVX instructions; watch Vcores closely as they will rise as noted. If successful...
Move to the Stress Test section and input your system's RAM count along with 2 hours. (Note: Unless you plan to enhance cache or RAM after testing, I typically save the two-hour session and skip this step until I have achieved the desired multiplier/cache and RAM speeds.)
If you encounter any issues, increase Core Voltage to 1.225 (+0.025)... Always monitor temperatures and halt tests if you reach >85°C.
Maintain appropriate cooling voltages for Haswell chips...
Up to 1.200v = Excellent Air Cooler (Hyper 212)
Up to 1.250v = Top-tier Air Coolers (Phanteks PH-TC14-PE, Silver Arrow or Noctua DH14) ....... Dual 140mm CLC / AIO with 1500 rpm fans (Corsair H110)
Up to 1.275v = High-Speed Dual Fan CLC / AIO with 2700 rpm fans (too loud for most users)
Up to 1.287v = Best air coolers (Cryorig R1 / Noctua DH-15)
Up to 1.300v = Swifteh H240-X
Up to 1.325v = Custom Loop with 15°C Delta T (3 x 120mm / 140mm)
Up to 1.400 = Custom Loop with 10°C Delta T (5 x 140mm or 6 x 120mm)
* At this level, it's assumed the GPU(s) are also under water
For Devils Canyon, you can push one more step... i.e., top air coolers can handle up to 1.3v
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mark_mister
08-27-2016, 02:45 PM #3

These were my initial "first day" configurations at 44 on 4770k... your CPU should have a lower Vcore compared to your hardware.
44/44/44/XMP - Refers to 44 Multiplier / 44 Max. Cache / 44 Min, Cache / XMP DRAM setting
If you aren't using image editing or similar programs, you can disregard cache ratios and stick with the defaults.
44/44/44/XMP (2400)
*
VCore 1.260
VCC Ring 1.260
VCCIN (Ev) 1.880
DRAM 1.700
Average Max Core Temp = 59.0C (24.5C Ambient)
46/43/43/XMP (2400)
VCore 1.385
VCC Ring 1.385
VCCIN (Ev) 2.020
DRAM 1.700
Average Max Core Temp = 69.0C (23.0C Ambient)
Begin with these as a stress test and monitoring
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php...load-Links
http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
These settings are based on Asus BIOS... specifications may vary among vendors. After adjusting the BIOS to defaults, enter these values and right-click to save them to your favorites page. This will let you access all necessary adjustments without navigating excessively in the BIOS.
AI Overclock Tuner = Auto
1-Core Ratio Limit = 42 (all others should adjust automatically when all cores are selected)
Max. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Min. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Fully Manual Mode = Disabled
Core Voltage = Adaptive
Extra Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.200
Core Cache Voltage = Adaptive
Extra Turbo Mode CPU Cache Voltage = Auto
Final CPU Input Voltage = 1.90
DRAM Voltage = Auto
Open Real Bench, select Benchmark Tab – check only the last box. Use HWiNFO64 and run "sensors only" as described. Start Real Bench without touching the mouse until complete. Monitor voltages and temperatures. If you manage to complete these two minutes, you're in the clear.
Next, test all four options and repeat. REMEMBER: During the third test, the CL will send AVX instructions; watch Vcores closely as they will rise as noted. If successful...
Move to the Stress Test section and input your system's RAM count along with 2 hours. (Note: Unless you plan to enhance cache or RAM after testing, I typically save the two-hour session and skip this step until I have achieved the desired multiplier/cache and RAM speeds.)
If you encounter any issues, increase Core Voltage to 1.225 (+0.025)... Always monitor temperatures and halt tests if you reach >85°C.
Maintain appropriate cooling voltages for Haswell chips...
Up to 1.200v = Excellent Air Cooler (Hyper 212)
Up to 1.250v = Top-tier Air Coolers (Phanteks PH-TC14-PE, Silver Arrow or Noctua DH14) ....... Dual 140mm CLC / AIO with 1500 rpm fans (Corsair H110)
Up to 1.275v = High-Speed Dual Fan CLC / AIO with 2700 rpm fans (too loud for most users)
Up to 1.287v = Best air coolers (Cryorig R1 / Noctua DH-15)
Up to 1.300v = Swifteh H240-X
Up to 1.325v = Custom Loop with 15°C Delta T (3 x 120mm / 140mm)
Up to 1.400 = Custom Loop with 10°C Delta T (5 x 140mm or 6 x 120mm)
* At this level, it's assumed the GPU(s) are also under water
For Devils Canyon, you can push one more step... i.e., top air coolers can handle up to 1.3v

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tippestwolf70
Member
227
08-28-2016, 12:52 AM
#4
What you're asking about is whether your Vcore level is appropriate. You mentioned a concern about it being too high and wondered if the recommended limit of under 1.3 applies to your situation.
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tippestwolf70
08-28-2016, 12:52 AM #4

What you're asking about is whether your Vcore level is appropriate. You mentioned a concern about it being too high and wondered if the recommended limit of under 1.3 applies to your situation.

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HairyWiener
Member
160
09-02-2016, 04:45 AM
#5
You're asking about how to adjust settings for better performance and cooler operation. It seems you want to ensure your CPU runs efficiently without overheating. The advice suggests keeping voltage lower and temperature in check, especially when using higher multipliers like 44. Different cooling solutions are recommended depending on the processor model, with some allowing up to certain voltages with good airflow. BIOS settings should be monitored closely, and daily usage is kept at a conservative level to maintain stability.
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HairyWiener
09-02-2016, 04:45 AM #5

You're asking about how to adjust settings for better performance and cooler operation. It seems you want to ensure your CPU runs efficiently without overheating. The advice suggests keeping voltage lower and temperature in check, especially when using higher multipliers like 44. Different cooling solutions are recommended depending on the processor model, with some allowing up to certain voltages with good airflow. BIOS settings should be monitored closely, and daily usage is kept at a conservative level to maintain stability.

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spadewade101
Member
205
09-02-2016, 12:18 PM
#6
You are at 44 multiplier with 1.15 vcore, and the max load raises the temperature to 61°C. That's within acceptable limits according to your guidelines.
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spadewade101
09-02-2016, 12:18 PM #6

You are at 44 multiplier with 1.15 vcore, and the max load raises the temperature to 61°C. That's within acceptable limits according to your guidelines.

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Person_
Member
126
09-10-2016, 07:19 AM
#7
Again, what about the maximum load running? Can you handle more than 2 hours on the RoG Real Bench without crashing at 1.15v? It's definitely doable with DC, though not every CPU supports it. Some systems managed 4.8 Ghz at 1.2v, but very few did so.

Where is the cache multiplier?
What is RAM speed?
Each of those that gets boosted needs more voltage.
At 44 / 41 / A / XMP, my settings were:
VCore 1.260
VCC Ring 1.260
VCCIN (Ev) 1.880
DRAM 1.700
But during stress tests, the actual voltages measured were higher:
Image Ed. 1.264
Encoding 1.264/1.312
Open CL 1.360
Multitask 1.264/1.296
Temps recorded were 58, 62, 60, 56 (average 59).
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Person_
09-10-2016, 07:19 AM #7

Again, what about the maximum load running? Can you handle more than 2 hours on the RoG Real Bench without crashing at 1.15v? It's definitely doable with DC, though not every CPU supports it. Some systems managed 4.8 Ghz at 1.2v, but very few did so.

Where is the cache multiplier?
What is RAM speed?
Each of those that gets boosted needs more voltage.
At 44 / 41 / A / XMP, my settings were:
VCore 1.260
VCC Ring 1.260
VCCIN (Ev) 1.880
DRAM 1.700
But during stress tests, the actual voltages measured were higher:
Image Ed. 1.264
Encoding 1.264/1.312
Open CL 1.360
Multitask 1.264/1.296
Temps recorded were 58, 62, 60, 56 (average 59).

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hyperdrive57
Member
67
09-10-2016, 07:43 AM
#8
I didn't modify any settings except for the CPU multiplier and vcore. I performed the stress stability test using AIDA64.
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hyperdrive57
09-10-2016, 07:43 AM #8

I didn't modify any settings except for the CPU multiplier and vcore. I performed the stress stability test using AIDA64.

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tacgun
Member
70
09-10-2016, 12:28 PM
#9
AIDA will effectively increase temperatures, but I've remained stable on AIDA/P95 for 4 hours and experienced crashes under RB in minutes.
Why only a single temperature reading? Are you displaying package temperature or individual core temps?
Your RAM speed affects DRAM voltage. Running DDR3-1600 should work at default settings. But with DRR3-2400, especially high overclocking, it’s not ideal.
I believe your cache multiplier stays around Auto (39). App performance drops if the cache is more than 3 units below the CPU multiplier. So when my CPU runs at 46, the cache is at 43. If you can run at 46 with 43, you likely can reach 47 with 39.
VCCin is probably around 1.8 by default. As the CPU increases, more power is needed for the CPU, cache, and DRAM, requiring higher VCCin.
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tacgun
09-10-2016, 12:28 PM #9

AIDA will effectively increase temperatures, but I've remained stable on AIDA/P95 for 4 hours and experienced crashes under RB in minutes.
Why only a single temperature reading? Are you displaying package temperature or individual core temps?
Your RAM speed affects DRAM voltage. Running DDR3-1600 should work at default settings. But with DRR3-2400, especially high overclocking, it’s not ideal.
I believe your cache multiplier stays around Auto (39). App performance drops if the cache is more than 3 units below the CPU multiplier. So when my CPU runs at 46, the cache is at 43. If you can run at 46 with 43, you likely can reach 47 with 39.
VCCin is probably around 1.8 by default. As the CPU increases, more power is needed for the CPU, cache, and DRAM, requiring higher VCCin.

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henrydog19
Junior Member
45
09-10-2016, 12:42 PM
#10
Jared_7 shared their initial experience with overclocking. They began at 40 multi with a vcore of 1.00, then adjusted to 42 with a vcore of 1.1 before encountering issues. They moved to 44 multi and a vcore of 1.10, settling on 1.15 now. Current idle temperature is 35°C and max load is 61°C. They asked about additional adjustments and whether to continue or stop at the present stage. They noted that a detailed guide would clarify which Intel features need disabling for optimal overclocking, but since they're new, they're unsure of the exact path. They mentioned their current load temperatures are around 72°C, suggesting further adjustment might be possible if desired. They emphasized the importance of stable cooling and advised monitoring stability before pushing further. They also recommended recording bios settings at each stage to revert if needed.
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henrydog19
09-10-2016, 12:42 PM #10

Jared_7 shared their initial experience with overclocking. They began at 40 multi with a vcore of 1.00, then adjusted to 42 with a vcore of 1.1 before encountering issues. They moved to 44 multi and a vcore of 1.10, settling on 1.15 now. Current idle temperature is 35°C and max load is 61°C. They asked about additional adjustments and whether to continue or stop at the present stage. They noted that a detailed guide would clarify which Intel features need disabling for optimal overclocking, but since they're new, they're unsure of the exact path. They mentioned their current load temperatures are around 72°C, suggesting further adjustment might be possible if desired. They emphasized the importance of stable cooling and advised monitoring stability before pushing further. They also recommended recording bios settings at each stage to revert if needed.

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