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You can find a solid CPU within that price range, whether new or refurbished.

You can find a solid CPU within that price range, whether new or refurbished.

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DBirdy808
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01-12-2022, 05:40 PM
#11
I'm feeling a bit concerned about their power usage, but your idea about undervolting is solid. I'd like to get a bit closer to $500. Since my current setup feels like a mix from a Scrapyard Wars season, I’m not too sensitive about costs because it’s been a while since I invested in something new. I’m hoping to discover some hidden goodies. The mostly negative feedback on the 11th gen Intel CPUs might have lowered their value in the used market, but a quick check doesn’t confirm that. Right now I have a few 10th gen Core CPUs that look decent, and price will likely decide if I go that way. I’m also reviewing the Ryzen 3000 series to get a better sense of what’s available. However, the challenges of compatibility across generations plus the semiconductor shortage seem to keep AMD’s CPUs expensive even in the used space, which might affect my plans. The next big upgrade probably won’t come until DDR5 becomes standard, so unless performance claims hold up, I’ll likely need a new board.
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DBirdy808
01-12-2022, 05:40 PM #11

I'm feeling a bit concerned about their power usage, but your idea about undervolting is solid. I'd like to get a bit closer to $500. Since my current setup feels like a mix from a Scrapyard Wars season, I’m not too sensitive about costs because it’s been a while since I invested in something new. I’m hoping to discover some hidden goodies. The mostly negative feedback on the 11th gen Intel CPUs might have lowered their value in the used market, but a quick check doesn’t confirm that. Right now I have a few 10th gen Core CPUs that look decent, and price will likely decide if I go that way. I’m also reviewing the Ryzen 3000 series to get a better sense of what’s available. However, the challenges of compatibility across generations plus the semiconductor shortage seem to keep AMD’s CPUs expensive even in the used space, which might affect my plans. The next big upgrade probably won’t come until DDR5 becomes standard, so unless performance claims hold up, I’ll likely need a new board.

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xSneik
Member
178
01-12-2022, 06:28 PM
#12
It seems you were referring to newer releases that have been updated or are coming up soon!
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xSneik
01-12-2022, 06:28 PM #12

It seems you were referring to newer releases that have been updated or are coming up soon!

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Alicante38
Junior Member
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01-12-2022, 09:07 PM
#13
They won't use it for a while. DDR4 is already established. DDR5 is only beginning.
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Alicante38
01-12-2022, 09:07 PM #13

They won't use it for a while. DDR4 is already established. DDR5 is only beginning.

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vmontero1109
Junior Member
49
01-19-2022, 09:14 AM
#14
Ddr4 began around 2133, rose to 2666, then fluctuated between 3000 and 3200. Now there are 5400 units available. I wasn’t referring to full maturity—just a noticeable improvement such as reaching 2666 at least.
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vmontero1109
01-19-2022, 09:14 AM #14

Ddr4 began around 2133, rose to 2666, then fluctuated between 3000 and 3200. Now there are 5400 units available. I wasn’t referring to full maturity—just a noticeable improvement such as reaching 2666 at least.

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Shanniee_
Member
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01-19-2022, 05:13 PM
#15
From what I remember, the first DDR4 models were DDR4-1600 and then DDR4-1866. Do you have any references for this? This speed difference means a potential boost from 21.3 GB/s to 26.6 GB/s, but that improvement is relatively small. RAM will likely not be the main limitation in most situations, except in certain scenarios. The reason gaming focuses on RAM clock speeds and CL now is because of its connection to FCLK on AMD systems. For more details about DDR4, you can check this article: https://techbuyersguru.com/article/gamin...b-vs-16gb/
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Shanniee_
01-19-2022, 05:13 PM #15

From what I remember, the first DDR4 models were DDR4-1600 and then DDR4-1866. Do you have any references for this? This speed difference means a potential boost from 21.3 GB/s to 26.6 GB/s, but that improvement is relatively small. RAM will likely not be the main limitation in most situations, except in certain scenarios. The reason gaming focuses on RAM clock speeds and CL now is because of its connection to FCLK on AMD systems. For more details about DDR4, you can check this article: https://techbuyersguru.com/article/gamin...b-vs-16gb/

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pupik1
Junior Member
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01-26-2022, 10:00 PM
#16
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CampenBros
Junior Member
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01-28-2022, 10:40 AM
#17
You're right about not wanting to rush into something new just because it's trendy. For me, it makes more sense to stick with what I know and save money now. I'm leaning toward buying used or older models, especially since I plan to upgrade later when technology is more established. DDR5 sounds promising, but it doesn't fit my budget right now.
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CampenBros
01-28-2022, 10:40 AM #17

You're right about not wanting to rush into something new just because it's trendy. For me, it makes more sense to stick with what I know and save money now. I'm leaning toward buying used or older models, especially since I plan to upgrade later when technology is more established. DDR5 sounds promising, but it doesn't fit my budget right now.

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livtheviking
Posting Freak
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01-28-2022, 12:29 PM
#18
I didn't confirm that; my B350 only handles models up to the 3000 series, and that's all. That's the only way it works unless you change your definition, which would then clash with what I said earlier. Regarding the topic: 3600 divided by a number should match that price range.
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livtheviking
01-28-2022, 12:29 PM #18

I didn't confirm that; my B350 only handles models up to the 3000 series, and that's all. That's the only way it works unless you change your definition, which would then clash with what I said earlier. Regarding the topic: 3600 divided by a number should match that price range.

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JeronimoYT
Senior Member
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01-28-2022, 07:33 PM
#19
Uncertain about the topic you're referring to, so it seems to be related to your manufacturing or a specific board issue. I have an ASRock A320 that supports 5000, and I believe the same applies to B350 and X370 models.
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JeronimoYT
01-28-2022, 07:33 PM #19

Uncertain about the topic you're referring to, so it seems to be related to your manufacturing or a specific board issue. I have an ASRock A320 that supports 5000, and I believe the same applies to B350 and X370 models.

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_Lolikc_
Member
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01-29-2022, 02:39 AM
#20
I believe most of the choices I’ve seen give me enough material to review, though I don’t think there are major gaps in what I was exploring. I mentioned worrying about overlooking the 11th gen core, but it seems that issue isn’t significant anymore—the pricing still feels too steep. Let’s move past the heated debates and focus on what fits my budget. The performance should hold up for the next few years, especially since the upcoming CPU, mainboard, and RAM upgrades will bring new features soon.
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_Lolikc_
01-29-2022, 02:39 AM #20

I believe most of the choices I’ve seen give me enough material to review, though I don’t think there are major gaps in what I was exploring. I mentioned worrying about overlooking the 11th gen core, but it seems that issue isn’t significant anymore—the pricing still feels too steep. Let’s move past the heated debates and focus on what fits my budget. The performance should hold up for the next few years, especially since the upcoming CPU, mainboard, and RAM upgrades will bring new features soon.

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