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Yes, Windows can be quite frustrating sometimes.

Yes, Windows can be quite frustrating sometimes.

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bagelpointfive
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02-12-2017, 12:33 AM
#21
The drivers remain running even when nothing is doing anything. A failure would likely cause noticeable problems. The outcome hinges on the specific issue and circumstances involved.
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bagelpointfive
02-12-2017, 12:33 AM #21

The drivers remain running even when nothing is doing anything. A failure would likely cause noticeable problems. The outcome hinges on the specific issue and circumstances involved.

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Cra3ySlinger44
Junior Member
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02-19-2017, 02:00 PM
#22
I know that. I can't demonstrate the problem because they aren't my computers to do so. Here's what happens. New machine, fresh 1809 image, no dGPU, using iGPU. As soon as it boots up, go straight to Windows Update and feature update to 1903. Two hours or so pass, and now it's on 1903. Click the start button, nothing happens. The search box right beside it works however. Old machine, on 1809, dGPU only, upgraded to 1903, immediately after login, start button doesn't work. Same as above. Old Win7 machine upgraded to Win10 1809 and then immediately to 1903, has hybrid graphics. Start button doesn't work. Meanwhile My desktop at home Win10 machine upgraded from Win10 1809, DGPU is primary, iGPU is enabled. Start button works. Laptop with hybrid graphics, iGPU and dGPU are enabled. dGPU's in all of these are nVidia parts. So the only variables: Win10 Enterprise vs Pro/Home Dell vs Asrock/Lenovo Could be some other enterprise program breaking the start button? I don't know, in order to figure that out I'd need to be able to install vanilla Windows Enterprise 1809 on a machine and find out. I haven't ruled out doing this, but I've also not been asked to figure it out, and thus I'd be wasting their time if someone else is already working on it. Presumably whoever does the computer images for the multi-billion dollar company has the resources to for it.
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Cra3ySlinger44
02-19-2017, 02:00 PM #22

I know that. I can't demonstrate the problem because they aren't my computers to do so. Here's what happens. New machine, fresh 1809 image, no dGPU, using iGPU. As soon as it boots up, go straight to Windows Update and feature update to 1903. Two hours or so pass, and now it's on 1903. Click the start button, nothing happens. The search box right beside it works however. Old machine, on 1809, dGPU only, upgraded to 1903, immediately after login, start button doesn't work. Same as above. Old Win7 machine upgraded to Win10 1809 and then immediately to 1903, has hybrid graphics. Start button doesn't work. Meanwhile My desktop at home Win10 machine upgraded from Win10 1809, DGPU is primary, iGPU is enabled. Start button works. Laptop with hybrid graphics, iGPU and dGPU are enabled. dGPU's in all of these are nVidia parts. So the only variables: Win10 Enterprise vs Pro/Home Dell vs Asrock/Lenovo Could be some other enterprise program breaking the start button? I don't know, in order to figure that out I'd need to be able to install vanilla Windows Enterprise 1809 on a machine and find out. I haven't ruled out doing this, but I've also not been asked to figure it out, and thus I'd be wasting their time if someone else is already working on it. Presumably whoever does the computer images for the multi-billion dollar company has the resources to for it.

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ShadowKitten24
Junior Member
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02-19-2017, 08:58 PM
#23
It's odd, no obvious variables appear here, and it's well-known the Win 10 start menu isn't as stable as before. This might not be accurate, but I view it more like a UWP app, which seems to have similar unpredictable behavior. The pattern feels erratic. I've only experienced this once before, along with other problems, so I ended up reinstalling. I don't remember the machine or version, but it likely happened soon after installation—probably because I didn't mind setting everything up again, even if I might be mistaken.
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ShadowKitten24
02-19-2017, 08:58 PM #23

It's odd, no obvious variables appear here, and it's well-known the Win 10 start menu isn't as stable as before. This might not be accurate, but I view it more like a UWP app, which seems to have similar unpredictable behavior. The pattern feels erratic. I've only experienced this once before, along with other problems, so I ended up reinstalling. I don't remember the machine or version, but it likely happened soon after installation—probably because I didn't mind setting everything up again, even if I might be mistaken.

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shark1045
Member
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02-19-2017, 09:25 PM
#24
They overlooked the fact that interchangeable graphics from various manufacturers are custom drivers developed by the system maker, not Intel or Nvidia. You're relying on them for ongoing and reliable assistance.
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shark1045
02-19-2017, 09:25 PM #24

They overlooked the fact that interchangeable graphics from various manufacturers are custom drivers developed by the system maker, not Intel or Nvidia. You're relying on them for ongoing and reliable assistance.

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LorenGames
Junior Member
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03-03-2017, 03:12 AM
#25
The main problem with Windows 10 is that its system relies heavily on the graphical user interface, leading to numerous issues that affect many users worldwide. This isn't a concern for most people globally.
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LorenGames
03-03-2017, 03:12 AM #25

The main problem with Windows 10 is that its system relies heavily on the graphical user interface, leading to numerous issues that affect many users worldwide. This isn't a concern for most people globally.

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