F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Yes, old Intel Xeon processors can still function well if they meet your needs and are properly maintained.

Yes, old Intel Xeon processors can still function well if they meet your needs and are properly maintained.

Yes, old Intel Xeon processors can still function well if they meet your needs and are properly maintained.

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__ALEX_RIDER__
Junior Member
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03-14-2016, 08:07 PM
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I need a decent PC, but with some budget limits, right? I saw Xeons could be a better choice than Intel’s Core lineup, offering similar performance at half the cost. I actually discovered a solid offer—about 40-60% off the regular price—for an Xeon X3450 paired with a Biostar H51 motherboard. It’s been around for over ten years, but as long as it meets my needs, I’d take it. Is this a solid choice even at 95W TDP? Should I consider second or third generation Intel Xeons (like E3-1220 or 1230) with lower power consumption since those boards only support USB 3.0? Also, I’m curious about the difference between 4C/4T and 4C/8T in real-world use—especially for gaming, as I noticed performance gaps between the 1220 and 1230 models. I expect it’ll run better on productivity tasks like Photoshop or Premiere, which I use regularly.
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__ALEX_RIDER__
03-14-2016, 08:07 PM #1

I need a decent PC, but with some budget limits, right? I saw Xeons could be a better choice than Intel’s Core lineup, offering similar performance at half the cost. I actually discovered a solid offer—about 40-60% off the regular price—for an Xeon X3450 paired with a Biostar H51 motherboard. It’s been around for over ten years, but as long as it meets my needs, I’d take it. Is this a solid choice even at 95W TDP? Should I consider second or third generation Intel Xeons (like E3-1220 or 1230) with lower power consumption since those boards only support USB 3.0? Also, I’m curious about the difference between 4C/4T and 4C/8T in real-world use—especially for gaming, as I noticed performance gaps between the 1220 and 1230 models. I expect it’ll run better on productivity tasks like Photoshop or Premiere, which I use regularly.

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RulwenJr
Posting Freak
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03-16-2016, 10:06 AM
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I've used this PC for many years, running dual Xeon e5 CPUs. They work well and have lasted a long time. The main issues are power use and heat generation, which are fairly high—keep an eye on those. You can also purchase PCIe cards with USB 3.0 controllers if needed.
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RulwenJr
03-16-2016, 10:06 AM #2

I've used this PC for many years, running dual Xeon e5 CPUs. They work well and have lasted a long time. The main issues are power use and heat generation, which are fairly high—keep an eye on those. You can also purchase PCIe cards with USB 3.0 controllers if needed.

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cyberfire_
Junior Member
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03-16-2016, 10:43 AM
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The motherboard only has one 1 x16 PCIe port, with everything else using standard PCI. I attempted to locate a PCIe to USB connection, but it seems not available.
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cyberfire_
03-16-2016, 10:43 AM #3

The motherboard only has one 1 x16 PCIe port, with everything else using standard PCI. I attempted to locate a PCIe to USB connection, but it seems not available.

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Dj_104
Member
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03-25-2016, 07:27 PM
#4
StarTech offers a PCI to PCIe 1x adapter, I'm attempting to locate one. I'll update this entry later. Amazon.com: StarTech PCI to PCI Express adapter - low profile design, supports multiple voltage options. You'd find something similar here. FebSmart provides a USB 3.0 expansion card for Windows servers and compatible systems, featuring self-powered technology and no extra power needed (FS-U2-Pro).
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Dj_104
03-25-2016, 07:27 PM #4

StarTech offers a PCI to PCIe 1x adapter, I'm attempting to locate one. I'll update this entry later. Amazon.com: StarTech PCI to PCI Express adapter - low profile design, supports multiple voltage options. You'd find something similar here. FebSmart provides a USB 3.0 expansion card for Windows servers and compatible systems, featuring self-powered technology and no extra power needed (FS-U2-Pro).

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Astra909
Member
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03-25-2016, 08:02 PM
#5
It's really not working well right now. Skip the x3450 at all costs—it won't help with your goals. The best you can do is an i7 2600 with 8GB RAM and an SSD. For gamers, the difference between 4 and 8 threads affects how smoothly the game runs. USB 3.0 is usually present on these systems; otherwise, take out the external HDD and put it inside.

For more on frame rate stability, a pure 4-thread setup will cause stuttering, crashes, and loading issues. This tends to work best with newer games (2018), like GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2.
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Astra909
03-25-2016, 08:02 PM #5

It's really not working well right now. Skip the x3450 at all costs—it won't help with your goals. The best you can do is an i7 2600 with 8GB RAM and an SSD. For gamers, the difference between 4 and 8 threads affects how smoothly the game runs. USB 3.0 is usually present on these systems; otherwise, take out the external HDD and put it inside.

For more on frame rate stability, a pure 4-thread setup will cause stuttering, crashes, and loading issues. This tends to work best with newer games (2018), like GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2.

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bishopboys68
Posting Freak
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03-26-2016, 04:36 AM
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HP Z600 workstations are available at very low prices—often around 4c8t or 8c8t. Check eBay for used units that are still functional but old enough to be affordable. They usually support plenty of PCI and PCIE ports. Adding a GPU makes them great for budget gaming setups.
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bishopboys68
03-26-2016, 04:36 AM #6

HP Z600 workstations are available at very low prices—often around 4c8t or 8c8t. Check eBay for used units that are still functional but old enough to be affordable. They usually support plenty of PCI and PCIE ports. Adding a GPU makes them great for budget gaming setups.

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Andy31576
Member
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04-02-2016, 01:22 AM
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Early Core Xeon models are losing significant support for many operations because they lack AVX capabilities. It's best to steer clear of these systems whenever possible.
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Andy31576
04-02-2016, 01:22 AM #7

Early Core Xeon models are losing significant support for many operations because they lack AVX capabilities. It's best to steer clear of these systems whenever possible.

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teuf29
Junior Member
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04-03-2016, 12:49 AM
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Would that indicate a Westmere/Socket 1366 build? When I recall 'Early Xeons,' it reminds me of the Pentium III...
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teuf29
04-03-2016, 12:49 AM #8

Would that indicate a Westmere/Socket 1366 build? When I recall 'Early Xeons,' it reminds me of the Pentium III...

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3Edge
Senior Member
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04-03-2016, 09:00 AM
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They actually discovered a newer CPU model with a better mobile socket instead, which would be way too costly. The gap between a 60W and a 95W processor really adds up financially. Especially if I’m using the computer for about eight hours daily. I was aiming for at least 8 GB RAM, browsing Chrome with over 15 tabs. I already have a SATA SSD, but the minimum spec I need is an i7-2600. That means I could upgrade to newer Xeons later. Found it, but it slipped my budget. Got it. Appreciate the advice.
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3Edge
04-03-2016, 09:00 AM #9

They actually discovered a newer CPU model with a better mobile socket instead, which would be way too costly. The gap between a 60W and a 95W processor really adds up financially. Especially if I’m using the computer for about eight hours daily. I was aiming for at least 8 GB RAM, browsing Chrome with over 15 tabs. I already have a SATA SSD, but the minimum spec I need is an i7-2600. That means I could upgrade to newer Xeons later. Found it, but it slipped my budget. Got it. Appreciate the advice.

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ChocoMonster
Member
145
04-18-2016, 09:49 AM
#10
Also, the HP workstation priced around $200 remains outside our budget? I’m not sure whether a 60W or 95W CPU matters—think of it like comparing a 100-watt bulb all day versus a 60-watt one. Honestly, the difference would be minimal. To put it another way, my Z620 workstation under heavy use draws about 430 watts with two 135-watt CPUs and a GTX 980, but it drops below 100 watts when idle. So if your CPU and GPU are lighter, it should stay under 60 watts during web browsing.
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ChocoMonster
04-18-2016, 09:49 AM #10

Also, the HP workstation priced around $200 remains outside our budget? I’m not sure whether a 60W or 95W CPU matters—think of it like comparing a 100-watt bulb all day versus a 60-watt one. Honestly, the difference would be minimal. To put it another way, my Z620 workstation under heavy use draws about 430 watts with two 135-watt CPUs and a GTX 980, but it drops below 100 watts when idle. So if your CPU and GPU are lighter, it should stay under 60 watts during web browsing.

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