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Yes, it's around 4.6ghz.

Yes, it's around 4.6ghz.

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SuperTigresss
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12-18-2019, 11:53 PM
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In short I own a lot of radiators. I’m running an AI suite on a x570 dark hero with Wi-Fi. A few small tweaks to the BIOS, and I’d think myself just a beginner. Probably not intermediate or expert—just starting out. Recently I accidentally blew up my last CPU by increasing the multiplier to 49.00 and cranking the voltage too high (around 100mW as suggested). Whoops! So far, I’ve tried this on three processors and got a top speed of about 4.65 GHz, maybe a bit higher. During a 10-minute stress test on R23, my CPU temps hit around 47°C, which isn’t bad but doesn’t cause crashes—probably a tricky issue. If there’s a voltage problem, it might be because the auto-software is overdoing it. I don’t usually see 1500mm of radiators combined, and I’m not sure if there’s an easy way to set this up manually with software. I can easily change my graphics card settings, run benchmarks slowly adjusting speeds until it stalls, but I need to remember what was stable before. AI suite is handy since it won’t save unless it’s stable, but I have no idea what changes to make afterward.
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SuperTigresss
12-18-2019, 11:53 PM #1

In short I own a lot of radiators. I’m running an AI suite on a x570 dark hero with Wi-Fi. A few small tweaks to the BIOS, and I’d think myself just a beginner. Probably not intermediate or expert—just starting out. Recently I accidentally blew up my last CPU by increasing the multiplier to 49.00 and cranking the voltage too high (around 100mW as suggested). Whoops! So far, I’ve tried this on three processors and got a top speed of about 4.65 GHz, maybe a bit higher. During a 10-minute stress test on R23, my CPU temps hit around 47°C, which isn’t bad but doesn’t cause crashes—probably a tricky issue. If there’s a voltage problem, it might be because the auto-software is overdoing it. I don’t usually see 1500mm of radiators combined, and I’m not sure if there’s an easy way to set this up manually with software. I can easily change my graphics card settings, run benchmarks slowly adjusting speeds until it stalls, but I need to remember what was stable before. AI suite is handy since it won’t save unless it’s stable, but I have no idea what changes to make afterward.

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diamonddan24
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12-23-2019, 04:30 PM
#2
This involves two key points: Avoid using the AI Suite or any auto-overclocking features (excluding PBO), as they generally don’t work well and can cause damage or poor results. Manual overclocking isn't necessary if you're not comfortable doing it yourself. For Ryzen processors, manual overclocks are largely unnecessary. PBO offers strong performance without the complications of manual tuning. Focus on adjusting PBO parameters like TDC, EDC, and PPT for best results. Aim for around 120W for single CCD chips or 220W for dual CCD chips, keeping TDC/EDC stable—values may vary based on chip model and workload (e.g., 188A TDC/EDC and 222W PPT for heavier tasks). You can also experiment with the curve optimizer, but it’s best avoided for most users. If you really need a manual overclock, ensure your VRM settings are solid, disable power-saving features, set a reasonable VCore voltage (around 1.25V is typical), and tweak voltage and multiplier settings until stable. What processor are you working with? For dual CCD chips, 4.75GHz should be achievable on good models; if your chip struggles at that speed, it’s likely the issue. For single CCD chips, performance may be limited but still possible.
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diamonddan24
12-23-2019, 04:30 PM #2

This involves two key points: Avoid using the AI Suite or any auto-overclocking features (excluding PBO), as they generally don’t work well and can cause damage or poor results. Manual overclocking isn't necessary if you're not comfortable doing it yourself. For Ryzen processors, manual overclocks are largely unnecessary. PBO offers strong performance without the complications of manual tuning. Focus on adjusting PBO parameters like TDC, EDC, and PPT for best results. Aim for around 120W for single CCD chips or 220W for dual CCD chips, keeping TDC/EDC stable—values may vary based on chip model and workload (e.g., 188A TDC/EDC and 222W PPT for heavier tasks). You can also experiment with the curve optimizer, but it’s best avoided for most users. If you really need a manual overclock, ensure your VRM settings are solid, disable power-saving features, set a reasonable VCore voltage (around 1.25V is typical), and tweak voltage and multiplier settings until stable. What processor are you working with? For dual CCD chips, 4.75GHz should be achievable on good models; if your chip struggles at that speed, it’s likely the issue. For single CCD chips, performance may be limited but still possible.

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12-23-2019, 04:38 PM
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I’ve noticed many similar choices before, but I’m hesitant to experiment since I’m unsure what they actually do. Is there a clear guide that covers everything? If I truly understood all the points I mentioned, it would make a big difference and yes, 3 CPUs (the latest one) with 5900x chips. -daughters pc has an MSI Gaming Pro Wi-Fi, 5900x. Just set the multiplier to 46.00 and it works well (also a weird WiFi loop). -My PC, as you said, Dark Hero 8, Wi-Fi. First 5900x, steady at 4.6GHz (thanks AI) on TPU II (is that the same chipset?). It really pushed its limits. Basically, I had to insert a USB-C drive and the power supply couldn’t deliver enough voltage (or not enough) for USB-C, causing it to crash. After that, I removed the CMOS battery, waited 24 hours, then restarted. The PSU was swapped to a 1000W model, and after overclocking to around 4.65 on TPU II, it held steady. Then I thought about adjusting things more—maybe raising the voltage in BIOS to 1.35 or increasing the multiplier to 49.00. Got a Q-Code afterward. Around 44 I think I figured it out, but maybe the frequency/voltage didn’t match and the CPU initialized itself. So, probably they’re linked, which explains why it wouldn’t work. I tried pulling the CMOS battery, powering off, waiting, and then trying again with a new PSU and a higher multiplier. Still no luck. -Regarding the issue, when I first installed the new CPU it was 3.6GHz idle, but under heavy load it spiked to 4.9GHz then dropped. Why can’t I just keep it at a steady 4.8GHz? What’s causing that jump and why does it stay stable? (Just to be clear, this is without overclocking.) The strange part is the voltage setting in BIOS seems off—maybe it’s related to the CPU itself. So, if there’s a beginner’s manual for all these settings, I’d feel more confident adjusting things in BIOS. Lastly, where would saving changes go? If I tweak something in BIOS, should I store it? I tried using Coretemp (or whatever name it is) and it shows all my data—average temps, load, etc. in the taskbar. CPU-Z helps monitor performance. I have CPU-Z, any other tips would be great. Also, what tools should I consider for deeper CPU checks? I’m open to suggestions, including Ryzen Master too.]
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willowengstrom
12-23-2019, 04:38 PM #3

I’ve noticed many similar choices before, but I’m hesitant to experiment since I’m unsure what they actually do. Is there a clear guide that covers everything? If I truly understood all the points I mentioned, it would make a big difference and yes, 3 CPUs (the latest one) with 5900x chips. -daughters pc has an MSI Gaming Pro Wi-Fi, 5900x. Just set the multiplier to 46.00 and it works well (also a weird WiFi loop). -My PC, as you said, Dark Hero 8, Wi-Fi. First 5900x, steady at 4.6GHz (thanks AI) on TPU II (is that the same chipset?). It really pushed its limits. Basically, I had to insert a USB-C drive and the power supply couldn’t deliver enough voltage (or not enough) for USB-C, causing it to crash. After that, I removed the CMOS battery, waited 24 hours, then restarted. The PSU was swapped to a 1000W model, and after overclocking to around 4.65 on TPU II, it held steady. Then I thought about adjusting things more—maybe raising the voltage in BIOS to 1.35 or increasing the multiplier to 49.00. Got a Q-Code afterward. Around 44 I think I figured it out, but maybe the frequency/voltage didn’t match and the CPU initialized itself. So, probably they’re linked, which explains why it wouldn’t work. I tried pulling the CMOS battery, powering off, waiting, and then trying again with a new PSU and a higher multiplier. Still no luck. -Regarding the issue, when I first installed the new CPU it was 3.6GHz idle, but under heavy load it spiked to 4.9GHz then dropped. Why can’t I just keep it at a steady 4.8GHz? What’s causing that jump and why does it stay stable? (Just to be clear, this is without overclocking.) The strange part is the voltage setting in BIOS seems off—maybe it’s related to the CPU itself. So, if there’s a beginner’s manual for all these settings, I’d feel more confident adjusting things in BIOS. Lastly, where would saving changes go? If I tweak something in BIOS, should I store it? I tried using Coretemp (or whatever name it is) and it shows all my data—average temps, load, etc. in the taskbar. CPU-Z helps monitor performance. I have CPU-Z, any other tips would be great. Also, what tools should I consider for deeper CPU checks? I’m open to suggestions, including Ryzen Master too.]

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SavageKillsMC
Member
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12-23-2019, 11:00 PM
#4
I believe the AI suite is applying too much voltage since it doesn’t understand my specific cooling system. It seems like a generic solution that doesn’t account for unique conditions. My readings stay stable around 4.65, but my voltage hovers near 1.35 (may need verification). That could be considered high if my setup can handle it. Maybe I should lower the clock speed or reduce voltage gradually as a starting point? A beginner’s guide would definitely be useful. Thanks for your patience—I’m still learning and appreciate your interest!
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SavageKillsMC
12-23-2019, 11:00 PM #4

I believe the AI suite is applying too much voltage since it doesn’t understand my specific cooling system. It seems like a generic solution that doesn’t account for unique conditions. My readings stay stable around 4.65, but my voltage hovers near 1.35 (may need verification). That could be considered high if my setup can handle it. Maybe I should lower the clock speed or reduce voltage gradually as a starting point? A beginner’s guide would definitely be useful. Thanks for your patience—I’m still learning and appreciate your interest!

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KKKing
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12-29-2019, 02:20 PM
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This shouldn’t have caused damage. 1.35V is still within normal limits for daily use. Values above 1.3V usually become unstable during regular operation because the chip overheats, especially with high loads. It wouldn’t have killed the device, just made it unreliable. You’re probably right that the chip didn’t survive. The 4.9 MHz setting is extremely tough to maintain, and most 5900X models can’t reliably hit that speed consistently. Clearing CMOS would reset everything back to default. Overclocking these CPUs isn’t worth it—PBO can push a single core up to around 4.9-5GHz under light use, with all cores hovering between 4.4 and 4.6GHz. Manual overclocking usually drops performance by 5-10% in games and only slightly improves scores on benchmarks. If you’re a gamer, tweaking PBO limits is better than chasing unstable speeds. BIOS settings are saved automatically; clearing CMOS restores them to factory levels. There are tools like Ryzen Master to adjust settings, but changing them frequently during tests isn’t recommended. Stress testing GPUs and CPUs requires different approaches, so only modify values when necessary.
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KKKing
12-29-2019, 02:20 PM #5

This shouldn’t have caused damage. 1.35V is still within normal limits for daily use. Values above 1.3V usually become unstable during regular operation because the chip overheats, especially with high loads. It wouldn’t have killed the device, just made it unreliable. You’re probably right that the chip didn’t survive. The 4.9 MHz setting is extremely tough to maintain, and most 5900X models can’t reliably hit that speed consistently. Clearing CMOS would reset everything back to default. Overclocking these CPUs isn’t worth it—PBO can push a single core up to around 4.9-5GHz under light use, with all cores hovering between 4.4 and 4.6GHz. Manual overclocking usually drops performance by 5-10% in games and only slightly improves scores on benchmarks. If you’re a gamer, tweaking PBO limits is better than chasing unstable speeds. BIOS settings are saved automatically; clearing CMOS restores them to factory levels. There are tools like Ryzen Master to adjust settings, but changing them frequently during tests isn’t recommended. Stress testing GPUs and CPUs requires different approaches, so only modify values when necessary.