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Yes, a processor upgrade could potentially resolve early-gen memory compatibility issues.

Yes, a processor upgrade could potentially resolve early-gen memory compatibility issues.

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MaliciousWolf
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03-20-2016, 04:23 PM
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The compatibility issues with memory for Ryzen first gen processors stem from the chipset and motherboard configuration rather than just the processor itself. Upgrading the CPU alone won't necessarily solve the problem, as the motherboard and chipset play a key role in supporting higher speeds.
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MaliciousWolf
03-20-2016, 04:23 PM #1

The compatibility issues with memory for Ryzen first gen processors stem from the chipset and motherboard configuration rather than just the processor itself. Upgrading the CPU alone won't necessarily solve the problem, as the motherboard and chipset play a key role in supporting higher speeds.

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Gfiti
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03-21-2016, 07:04 AM
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It's an issue where the memory controller is directly connected to the CPU's I/O die, causing the problem. This fix was introduced in Zen+ and Zen 2 versions, as well as in the 2XXX and 3XXX series processors.
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Gfiti
03-21-2016, 07:04 AM #2

It's an issue where the memory controller is directly connected to the CPU's I/O die, causing the problem. This fix was introduced in Zen+ and Zen 2 versions, as well as in the 2XXX and 3XXX series processors.

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superchacho34
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03-21-2016, 08:22 AM
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That could indeed be all it takes—swapping the processor might be sufficient. Thanks for your response. I understand I'm still uncertain, but I'm feeling a bit more certain about the upgrade option now.
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superchacho34
03-21-2016, 08:22 AM #3

That could indeed be all it takes—swapping the processor might be sufficient. Thanks for your response. I understand I'm still uncertain, but I'm feeling a bit more certain about the upgrade option now.

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Hades666201
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03-21-2016, 08:32 AM
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An upgrade to a 3700x or 3900x would let you use your RAM at its full 3200mhz rate instead of the current 2666 limit.
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Hades666201
03-21-2016, 08:32 AM #4

An upgrade to a 3700x or 3900x would let you use your RAM at its full 3200mhz rate instead of the current 2666 limit.

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evogeli
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03-27-2016, 12:10 AM
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Ensure you’ve adjusted the socket and DRAM voltages, checked for the newest BIOS. For your last query, improved RAM support is now available with newer Zen CPUs.
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evogeli
03-27-2016, 12:10 AM #5

Ensure you’ve adjusted the socket and DRAM voltages, checked for the newest BIOS. For your last query, improved RAM support is now available with newer Zen CPUs.

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Pebs844
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03-28-2016, 09:52 PM
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This seems like a fortunate roll for me. I upgraded my 1700 to 3950X on a X370 crosshair board, but memory settings are no longer compatible out of stock. Performance improved despite the compatibility issues, which still made the upgrade worthwhile. Before this, I was using 2933 MHz with tuned timings.
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Pebs844
03-28-2016, 09:52 PM #6

This seems like a fortunate roll for me. I upgraded my 1700 to 3950X on a X370 crosshair board, but memory settings are no longer compatible out of stock. Performance improved despite the compatibility issues, which still made the upgrade worthwhile. Before this, I was using 2933 MHz with tuned timings.

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NicholCheese
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03-29-2016, 01:09 PM
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Maybe not the SOC voltage setting, I can't recall doing that. In my last BIOS version I increased the RAM voltage but it didn’t improve stability—it just prevented booting at 2800MHz or above. Still, I’m not completely satisfied with the performance. The IPC upgrades on Zen 2 seem worthwhile for gaming (the recent Gamer's Nexus video showed a solid 1700 MHz, giving a nice boost), and having 12 cores would help with rendering and other tasks. Although the 3700MHz model might drop in price soon, I might save up and upgrade then. I was using the F22 BIOS. I upgraded to F31 before moving to F40 and beyond (the beta versions from Gigabyte supported the 3000 series). But the boot time was slow, and USB didn’t connect during Windows setup—thankfully I used a mobile app to access my screen and cleared hardware issues. This made me hesitant since I was mainly upgrading for memory improvements in a system that had been working well for years. They added more detail to memory timings, letting me reach 2733MHz, but I still faced issues like Rocket League freezing and a blue screen during video rendering, so I reset it back to 2666MHz. I’m considering F40 eventually, though the notes don’t mention memory upgrades, which would be useful if I wanted a 3000 series CPU.
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NicholCheese
03-29-2016, 01:09 PM #7

Maybe not the SOC voltage setting, I can't recall doing that. In my last BIOS version I increased the RAM voltage but it didn’t improve stability—it just prevented booting at 2800MHz or above. Still, I’m not completely satisfied with the performance. The IPC upgrades on Zen 2 seem worthwhile for gaming (the recent Gamer's Nexus video showed a solid 1700 MHz, giving a nice boost), and having 12 cores would help with rendering and other tasks. Although the 3700MHz model might drop in price soon, I might save up and upgrade then. I was using the F22 BIOS. I upgraded to F31 before moving to F40 and beyond (the beta versions from Gigabyte supported the 3000 series). But the boot time was slow, and USB didn’t connect during Windows setup—thankfully I used a mobile app to access my screen and cleared hardware issues. This made me hesitant since I was mainly upgrading for memory improvements in a system that had been working well for years. They added more detail to memory timings, letting me reach 2733MHz, but I still faced issues like Rocket League freezing and a blue screen during video rendering, so I reset it back to 2666MHz. I’m considering F40 eventually, though the notes don’t mention memory upgrades, which would be useful if I wanted a 3000 series CPU.

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Tatz
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03-29-2016, 02:44 PM
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It's improved performance overall. Better interconnect, faster clock speeds, enhanced IPC, and more efficient FPU. It seems like a significant upgrade. The pricing appears to vary—around $350–400 for 3900x and $50–70 less for 3700x depending on your needs. More cores might be worth it if you require them.
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Tatz
03-29-2016, 02:44 PM #8

It's improved performance overall. Better interconnect, faster clock speeds, enhanced IPC, and more efficient FPU. It seems like a significant upgrade. The pricing appears to vary—around $350–400 for 3900x and $50–70 less for 3700x depending on your needs. More cores might be worth it if you require them.

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YOLOGAMER109
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04-04-2016, 02:40 PM
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My approach was clear, thank you for the guidance. The 12 core setup would be useful, especially since I often create videos and CPU rendering offers better performance over GPU, even if GPUs are quicker. In the UK, the prices are quite steep—3700x costs £281 and 3900x ranges from £408 to £439. It doesn’t seem worth the extra £130 (about $160) for four cores. What really influenced my decision was that a 3900x for just a few minutes cost only £389, which is barely over £100 more. Considering it could last five years as games get more demanding, I’m willing to wait for a good deal on either CPU. If the 3700x drops to around £230–250, I’d consider it; similarly, if the 3900x falls to £350, I’d buy it instantly. Hopefully, the 4000 series will match the 3000’s value, just like the 3000 matched what the 2000 offered.
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YOLOGAMER109
04-04-2016, 02:40 PM #9

My approach was clear, thank you for the guidance. The 12 core setup would be useful, especially since I often create videos and CPU rendering offers better performance over GPU, even if GPUs are quicker. In the UK, the prices are quite steep—3700x costs £281 and 3900x ranges from £408 to £439. It doesn’t seem worth the extra £130 (about $160) for four cores. What really influenced my decision was that a 3900x for just a few minutes cost only £389, which is barely over £100 more. Considering it could last five years as games get more demanding, I’m willing to wait for a good deal on either CPU. If the 3700x drops to around £230–250, I’d consider it; similarly, if the 3900x falls to £350, I’d buy it instantly. Hopefully, the 4000 series will match the 3000’s value, just like the 3000 matched what the 2000 offered.

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Froyo_
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04-04-2016, 04:04 PM
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This offer is excellent for the Zen 3 chip. It’s likely to lower prices for Zen 2 models. If you’re patient, it might be worth waiting. Just make sure you can get the 3700x version if needed.
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Froyo_
04-04-2016, 04:04 PM #10

This offer is excellent for the Zen 3 chip. It’s likely to lower prices for Zen 2 models. If you’re patient, it might be worth waiting. Just make sure you can get the 3700x version if needed.