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Windows and Linux systems offer distinct environments for computing.

Windows and Linux systems offer distinct environments for computing.

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ItsDrAxel
Member
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09-28-2016, 06:06 PM
#1
Hey there, I just talked with my dad about it. He's been into tech since the early 90s and hasn't really caught up since then, sticking to older systems like the clock speed of my CPU. On the other hand, I've stayed current with modern tech and expanded my skills, which is why I joined this forum. I'm facing a challenge: I have a 32-bit Windows Vista, but my processor is 64-bit. I told him I'd like a 64-bit version, preferably Windows 7, but he suggested Linux instead. He got all excited and said I should give it a shot, but then he dismissed Windows altogether, saying it's not reliable for backup or everyday use. I shared my experience with Linux—using it for basic tasks felt slow and frustrating, especially when I wanted to play games or stream. He mentioned benchmarks showing Linux doesn't use hardware as efficiently and that the overall feel was less smooth. He ended up saying I only play games and use the computer for browsing and email, which he finds much more enjoyable. He seemed to think Linux would be a better fit for his needs, but I'm curious how others feel about this trade-off. Do you think Linux is slower and less efficient compared to Windows? Should I consider switching to Linux for better performance, or wait until I can get a proper Windows 7 version?
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ItsDrAxel
09-28-2016, 06:06 PM #1

Hey there, I just talked with my dad about it. He's been into tech since the early 90s and hasn't really caught up since then, sticking to older systems like the clock speed of my CPU. On the other hand, I've stayed current with modern tech and expanded my skills, which is why I joined this forum. I'm facing a challenge: I have a 32-bit Windows Vista, but my processor is 64-bit. I told him I'd like a 64-bit version, preferably Windows 7, but he suggested Linux instead. He got all excited and said I should give it a shot, but then he dismissed Windows altogether, saying it's not reliable for backup or everyday use. I shared my experience with Linux—using it for basic tasks felt slow and frustrating, especially when I wanted to play games or stream. He mentioned benchmarks showing Linux doesn't use hardware as efficiently and that the overall feel was less smooth. He ended up saying I only play games and use the computer for browsing and email, which he finds much more enjoyable. He seemed to think Linux would be a better fit for his needs, but I'm curious how others feel about this trade-off. Do you think Linux is slower and less efficient compared to Windows? Should I consider switching to Linux for better performance, or wait until I can get a proper Windows 7 version?

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Jessie2895
Member
149
09-30-2016, 05:00 PM
#2
Linux is particular. If you have 100% of your hardware Linux ready, with manufactures putting effort and resources in their Linux drivers, Linux is a really good OS. Fast, responsive, same level or better than Windows 7/8. If you don't.... then not so much... your system can consume more power as power saving features don't work, slowness, non responsive, etc... But, that is true for any OS. If you put Windows and missing drivers.. you'll get a crappy experience. The difference is that Windows has ~90% market share, so anything supports it, fully, properly, and everything is continuously polished and improved by manufactures ('cause if they don't, well no one will buy their products). Another problem is that support for hardware is even less in 64-bit under Linux. Everyone I talk to who knows about Linux, all told me, use the 32-bit version for greater support. And it is true, sadly. Based on what you said on what your father is said: It's the first time I here such false claims. Windows is a super solid OS, especially since Vista (assuming you are using the 64-bit version which is more polished than the 32-bit, and have the hardware to run it at the time). Windows also feature a built-in backup system, and ability to go back in time on a file, folder or system. Allowing your to recover deleted or overwritten files, or virus infection in your system, or something bad happen. Something that you can't do in Linux. In my opinion, Linux is a great OS. The problem is that it's by and for servers and really power users. The simplest things are complicated to do (although, Ubuntu is essentially changing Linux entirely to change it.. making Ubuntu not really liked among the Linux purist, but liked by new comers). Also, this makes that when you open a program options, in some cases you are blasted with options, where more than half of them are not really useful, they are just there to look fancy, but they are useless, they should not be there, or other options are there because the developer can't take a stand on his deisgn layout, and just give you a million and one option.. cool... but you are cluttered with uselessness, making finding basic or most used options difficult. It feels like the developer(s) found an empty stop in the option panel and tried to find something to fill it up. Moreover you have basic things that are just not cared for. For example, the font rendering engine of Linux xWindows environments, is garbage. It's so outdated. But no one cares to work on it. It's boring, and because Linux is not targeted at end users, and at marketing to make things looks nice, clean and professional, these things are just left out.. so everything looks crappy... at least to me. Another thing, is that I don't care anyone says, but the quality of many Linux software, are really poor. Quality support is very difficult to find on the web, and has a strong very snobbish community in many forums I encountered for assistance. They don't like newbs to Linux, they want to keep it for "Elites" only. Another problem with Linux is that everything is complicated and clutttered. There is no GUI guide, no consistency, the experience is completely different form one system to another, making it very difficult to impossible to help someone using GUI (avoiding Terminal is what I mean). Also most programs don't even have a help documentation. Developement of software is also at snail paste, and quality programs like Chome or Firefox, are also left Linux behind in favor of pushing Windows releases. Also, you don't have Office. While is really important, because LibreOffice and OpenOffice is unable to read and write properly on doc and docX. Linux is great and even awesome for many many things, and it can run on virtually anything. But it doesn't make it awesome for everything automatically. Linux, thanks to Ubuntu, has made HUGE steps forwards in being more user friendly. Sadly, Linux is so behind, it will take years and years before it can catch up to Windows, let alone require a mentality switch. So in my book, for desktop and laptops computers, Windows is the way to go. Maybe in 10-15 years Linux will be worth actually considering.. but so far, no, unless you are usages are really specific, server purposes, or very basic (web surf, type text, and that's about it). I would get Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. It used to be on special at 40$ form October 2012 to Jan 31st 2013.. shame you missed it. I don't know if Microsoft will bring up again the special with Windows 8.1, if not... you'll have to wait for Windows 9. If you are a student, contact your college or university to see if they are registered to Microsoft MSDNAA. If so, you have Windows 7 and 8 waiting for you, ready to be downloaded for free, among all other Microsoft software, including Visual Studio Ultimate and Windows Server, and the powerful note taking software: OneNote, all free. What you don't have is Office (I guess Microsoft has to make money on you, some howSmile) If your school is not registered to MSDNAA, fear not... We have Plan B: Microsoft does student special on their products: -> US: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msus...D.59238100 -> Canada: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca...D.57607500 Why 64-bit? -> You get to run 64-bit programs which takes advantage of it, and allows it to run intensive tasks faster. -> You get to use 4GB of RAM or more. -> You get to enjoy a better support OS, and drivers for your hardware and peripheral. -> You get to use a bunch of new security features built-in the CPU like buffer overflow protection. -> You can use a partition size more than 2TB To get you started with Windows 8, check out this post: while this post refereed to a person using XP going to Win8.. a lot applies to Vista to 8, as you skipped 7: I hope this answers your question. If you have any other question or have any claims from your father that needs to be cleared up, just ask.
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Jessie2895
09-30-2016, 05:00 PM #2

Linux is particular. If you have 100% of your hardware Linux ready, with manufactures putting effort and resources in their Linux drivers, Linux is a really good OS. Fast, responsive, same level or better than Windows 7/8. If you don't.... then not so much... your system can consume more power as power saving features don't work, slowness, non responsive, etc... But, that is true for any OS. If you put Windows and missing drivers.. you'll get a crappy experience. The difference is that Windows has ~90% market share, so anything supports it, fully, properly, and everything is continuously polished and improved by manufactures ('cause if they don't, well no one will buy their products). Another problem is that support for hardware is even less in 64-bit under Linux. Everyone I talk to who knows about Linux, all told me, use the 32-bit version for greater support. And it is true, sadly. Based on what you said on what your father is said: It's the first time I here such false claims. Windows is a super solid OS, especially since Vista (assuming you are using the 64-bit version which is more polished than the 32-bit, and have the hardware to run it at the time). Windows also feature a built-in backup system, and ability to go back in time on a file, folder or system. Allowing your to recover deleted or overwritten files, or virus infection in your system, or something bad happen. Something that you can't do in Linux. In my opinion, Linux is a great OS. The problem is that it's by and for servers and really power users. The simplest things are complicated to do (although, Ubuntu is essentially changing Linux entirely to change it.. making Ubuntu not really liked among the Linux purist, but liked by new comers). Also, this makes that when you open a program options, in some cases you are blasted with options, where more than half of them are not really useful, they are just there to look fancy, but they are useless, they should not be there, or other options are there because the developer can't take a stand on his deisgn layout, and just give you a million and one option.. cool... but you are cluttered with uselessness, making finding basic or most used options difficult. It feels like the developer(s) found an empty stop in the option panel and tried to find something to fill it up. Moreover you have basic things that are just not cared for. For example, the font rendering engine of Linux xWindows environments, is garbage. It's so outdated. But no one cares to work on it. It's boring, and because Linux is not targeted at end users, and at marketing to make things looks nice, clean and professional, these things are just left out.. so everything looks crappy... at least to me. Another thing, is that I don't care anyone says, but the quality of many Linux software, are really poor. Quality support is very difficult to find on the web, and has a strong very snobbish community in many forums I encountered for assistance. They don't like newbs to Linux, they want to keep it for "Elites" only. Another problem with Linux is that everything is complicated and clutttered. There is no GUI guide, no consistency, the experience is completely different form one system to another, making it very difficult to impossible to help someone using GUI (avoiding Terminal is what I mean). Also most programs don't even have a help documentation. Developement of software is also at snail paste, and quality programs like Chome or Firefox, are also left Linux behind in favor of pushing Windows releases. Also, you don't have Office. While is really important, because LibreOffice and OpenOffice is unable to read and write properly on doc and docX. Linux is great and even awesome for many many things, and it can run on virtually anything. But it doesn't make it awesome for everything automatically. Linux, thanks to Ubuntu, has made HUGE steps forwards in being more user friendly. Sadly, Linux is so behind, it will take years and years before it can catch up to Windows, let alone require a mentality switch. So in my book, for desktop and laptops computers, Windows is the way to go. Maybe in 10-15 years Linux will be worth actually considering.. but so far, no, unless you are usages are really specific, server purposes, or very basic (web surf, type text, and that's about it). I would get Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. It used to be on special at 40$ form October 2012 to Jan 31st 2013.. shame you missed it. I don't know if Microsoft will bring up again the special with Windows 8.1, if not... you'll have to wait for Windows 9. If you are a student, contact your college or university to see if they are registered to Microsoft MSDNAA. If so, you have Windows 7 and 8 waiting for you, ready to be downloaded for free, among all other Microsoft software, including Visual Studio Ultimate and Windows Server, and the powerful note taking software: OneNote, all free. What you don't have is Office (I guess Microsoft has to make money on you, some howSmile) If your school is not registered to MSDNAA, fear not... We have Plan B: Microsoft does student special on their products: -> US: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msus...D.59238100 -> Canada: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca...D.57607500 Why 64-bit? -> You get to run 64-bit programs which takes advantage of it, and allows it to run intensive tasks faster. -> You get to use 4GB of RAM or more. -> You get to enjoy a better support OS, and drivers for your hardware and peripheral. -> You get to use a bunch of new security features built-in the CPU like buffer overflow protection. -> You can use a partition size more than 2TB To get you started with Windows 8, check out this post: while this post refereed to a person using XP going to Win8.. a lot applies to Vista to 8, as you skipped 7: I hope this answers your question. If you have any other question or have any claims from your father that needs to be cleared up, just ask.

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Rockenbach0
Junior Member
13
09-30-2016, 07:56 PM
#3
Hey there, thanks a lot! I really appreciate it—this made the whole thing clearer for me. I totally get your take on Linux; it’s cool sometimes, but it can lag behind and I’d prefer Windows for its compatibility and reliability. It feels like picking between two really good options, but once you settle on one, it starts to work well. By the way, if I could award you a gold star for your response, I’d definitely do it. Thanks for the awesome reply!
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Rockenbach0
09-30-2016, 07:56 PM #3

Hey there, thanks a lot! I really appreciate it—this made the whole thing clearer for me. I totally get your take on Linux; it’s cool sometimes, but it can lag behind and I’d prefer Windows for its compatibility and reliability. It feels like picking between two really good options, but once you settle on one, it starts to work well. By the way, if I could award you a gold star for your response, I’d definitely do it. Thanks for the awesome reply!

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byrdyy
Junior Member
9
10-02-2016, 06:04 AM
#4
I'm glad I could assist! Smile The 2x OS aren't all bad—they each have their own strengths. My perspective is this: Linux stands out for its adaptability, you can tailor it to your needs, and it performs well even on basic devices like Raspberry Pi, where Windows struggles. It's perfect for servers, but its complexity can be a downside. Mac offers a very streamlined experience, but it limits your options significantly. Windows sits in the middle, offering more flexibility than Mac and a broader user base. Microsoft aims to cater to both power users and everyday customers, though some feel the price doesn't match the value.

The development side is fascinating—Windows blends elements from both Linux and Mac, balancing power with usability. Each release tries to address user needs, but the process can be lengthy and resource-intensive.

Microsoft employs over 97,000 people, with many working in diverse roles beyond software development. Their products are extensive, and while employee benefits are substantial, the cost of maintaining such a large team is significant.

Understanding OS complexity has helped me appreciate them more. Windows, in particular, offers a versatile experience, making it appealing to many users. For most people, it strikes a good balance between functionality and ease of use.
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byrdyy
10-02-2016, 06:04 AM #4

I'm glad I could assist! Smile The 2x OS aren't all bad—they each have their own strengths. My perspective is this: Linux stands out for its adaptability, you can tailor it to your needs, and it performs well even on basic devices like Raspberry Pi, where Windows struggles. It's perfect for servers, but its complexity can be a downside. Mac offers a very streamlined experience, but it limits your options significantly. Windows sits in the middle, offering more flexibility than Mac and a broader user base. Microsoft aims to cater to both power users and everyday customers, though some feel the price doesn't match the value.

The development side is fascinating—Windows blends elements from both Linux and Mac, balancing power with usability. Each release tries to address user needs, but the process can be lengthy and resource-intensive.

Microsoft employs over 97,000 people, with many working in diverse roles beyond software development. Their products are extensive, and while employee benefits are substantial, the cost of maintaining such a large team is significant.

Understanding OS complexity has helped me appreciate them more. Windows, in particular, offers a versatile experience, making it appealing to many users. For most people, it strikes a good balance between functionality and ease of use.

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10-08-2016, 01:32 PM
#5
Linx generally performs better and responds quicker than Windows, though performance can vary under certain circumstances. Running it inside a virtual machine may introduce system virtualization delays. Using it as a LiveCD from the installation media can affect loading times. Without suitable GPU drivers, it may operate slower due to software fallback rendering. The impact also depends on the distribution you use. The main distinctions between distros lie in the applications included and configuration options available. Some combinations work well on older hardware, while others may not. For instance, Ubuntu versions before 2018 used Unity—a resource-heavy desktop environment—making older systems like Dell OptiPlex slower. In my setup, I run Linux on HDDs and use an SSD for Windows install, achieving comparable boot times.
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Hamale_Suicida
10-08-2016, 01:32 PM #5

Linx generally performs better and responds quicker than Windows, though performance can vary under certain circumstances. Running it inside a virtual machine may introduce system virtualization delays. Using it as a LiveCD from the installation media can affect loading times. Without suitable GPU drivers, it may operate slower due to software fallback rendering. The impact also depends on the distribution you use. The main distinctions between distros lie in the applications included and configuration options available. Some combinations work well on older hardware, while others may not. For instance, Ubuntu versions before 2018 used Unity—a resource-heavy desktop environment—making older systems like Dell OptiPlex slower. In my setup, I run Linux on HDDs and use an SSD for Windows install, achieving comparable boot times.