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Windows 8.1 runs smoother on DX9/DX10 games compared to older versions!

Windows 8.1 runs smoother on DX9/DX10 games compared to older versions!

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thomasladd907
Member
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12-15-2016, 11:04 AM
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Hey, I just installed an NVMe SSD for my AM4 board. This seems to be my first Windows setup—I've kept it in good shape mostly because I only use it for gaming and not anything else. I didn’t think it was necessary to reinstall, so I made a raw copy of the regular SSD and moved it over to the NVMe drive. I have a compact 60 GB SSD with a customized Windows 10 installation (most features turned off), which I transferred from the old W8.1 setup. This was intended for testing DX12, but I didn’t do it until now. The system has the latest updates except for the Creators Update, so it’s version 1607 with all relevant patches applied. What I noticed is that games like FSX, Elite Dangerous, and others are running poorly. I manage around 90 FPS in FSX on Windows 8.1 (I copied the entire FSX directory from AppData to W10), but only about 15 FPS on Windows 10. (I double-checked—VSync is off.) DX11 games are similar, though not exactly the same. Except for Elite Dangerous, it’s roughly 15–20 frames lower than W8.1 Hitman on DX11, which shows some stuttering on Windows 10, but not on Windows 8. In DX12 Mode, performance improves significantly—about 140 FPS at 1440p compared to around 80 FPS in DX11. (On average, 64 FPS for DX12 and 49 for DX11 on W10.) Anyone else who’s run both W8.1 and W10 installations and can share their experiences? Did you disable any service that helps games run better? Yes, I tested with maximum performance settings, and both had the same GPU drivers. I turned off almost everything except RTTS and HWInfo for OSD.
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thomasladd907
12-15-2016, 11:04 AM #1

Hey, I just installed an NVMe SSD for my AM4 board. This seems to be my first Windows setup—I've kept it in good shape mostly because I only use it for gaming and not anything else. I didn’t think it was necessary to reinstall, so I made a raw copy of the regular SSD and moved it over to the NVMe drive. I have a compact 60 GB SSD with a customized Windows 10 installation (most features turned off), which I transferred from the old W8.1 setup. This was intended for testing DX12, but I didn’t do it until now. The system has the latest updates except for the Creators Update, so it’s version 1607 with all relevant patches applied. What I noticed is that games like FSX, Elite Dangerous, and others are running poorly. I manage around 90 FPS in FSX on Windows 8.1 (I copied the entire FSX directory from AppData to W10), but only about 15 FPS on Windows 10. (I double-checked—VSync is off.) DX11 games are similar, though not exactly the same. Except for Elite Dangerous, it’s roughly 15–20 frames lower than W8.1 Hitman on DX11, which shows some stuttering on Windows 10, but not on Windows 8. In DX12 Mode, performance improves significantly—about 140 FPS at 1440p compared to around 80 FPS in DX11. (On average, 64 FPS for DX12 and 49 for DX11 on W10.) Anyone else who’s run both W8.1 and W10 installations and can share their experiences? Did you disable any service that helps games run better? Yes, I tested with maximum performance settings, and both had the same GPU drivers. I turned off almost everything except RTTS and HWInfo for OSD.

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Kdubzz
Junior Member
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12-20-2016, 10:33 PM
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There might be an issue with Windows 10 installation, possibly a corrupted setup.
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Kdubzz
12-20-2016, 10:33 PM #2

There might be an issue with Windows 10 installation, possibly a corrupted setup.

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K_N1n3
Junior Member
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12-21-2016, 12:37 PM
#3
It seems you may have uploaded everything again. Please reinstall from scratch.
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K_N1n3
12-21-2016, 12:37 PM #3

It seems you may have uploaded everything again. Please reinstall from scratch.

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Glqbal
Member
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01-11-2017, 01:56 AM
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Glqbal
01-11-2017, 01:56 AM #4

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AZRonin
Junior Member
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01-11-2017, 02:44 AM
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It's a raw, bit-by-bit copy with an SHA-2 verification, though the file might be damaged—except for performance issues in certain games and inconsistent FPS. I'll restart Windows 10 now.
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AZRonin
01-11-2017, 02:44 AM #5

It's a raw, bit-by-bit copy with an SHA-2 verification, though the file might be damaged—except for performance issues in certain games and inconsistent FPS. I'll restart Windows 10 now.

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jxzuzuzo
Posting Freak
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01-28-2017, 04:05 PM
#6
You'll only learn the truth by trying. Making comparisons like W8 outperforming W10 without accounting for your existing W8 base and using copies of those files on W10 is unfair. Treat each version equally and compare outcomes afterward. (Once you've installed a fresh W10/games setup)
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jxzuzuzo
01-28-2017, 04:05 PM #6

You'll only learn the truth by trying. Making comparisons like W8 outperforming W10 without accounting for your existing W8 base and using copies of those files on W10 is unfair. Treat each version equally and compare outcomes afterward. (Once you've installed a fresh W10/games setup)

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Wakkie1
Junior Member
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01-28-2017, 05:47 PM
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SHA-2 refers to the family of cryptographic hashes or the basic structure, while SHA-256 and others are specific digests with longer outputs. The encryption method remains consistent. I didn't find any W8 files on W10. Before cloning the W10 installation onto the new SSD, I securely erased the previous storage. A clean installation was performed, and the Steam Library passed inspection. The outcomes match: Windows 10 underperforms compared to Windows 8.1 in DX9/DX10 games. The minor hiccups in Hitman during DX11 are still present but reduced. Performance in DX12 is unchanged from previous results. Elite Dangerous lags about 10-15 FPS versus Windows 8.1 FSX performance. Unknown what's happening with that...
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Wakkie1
01-28-2017, 05:47 PM #7

SHA-2 refers to the family of cryptographic hashes or the basic structure, while SHA-256 and others are specific digests with longer outputs. The encryption method remains consistent. I didn't find any W8 files on W10. Before cloning the W10 installation onto the new SSD, I securely erased the previous storage. A clean installation was performed, and the Steam Library passed inspection. The outcomes match: Windows 10 underperforms compared to Windows 8.1 in DX9/DX10 games. The minor hiccups in Hitman during DX11 are still present but reduced. Performance in DX12 is unchanged from previous results. Elite Dangerous lags about 10-15 FPS versus Windows 8.1 FSX performance. Unknown what's happening with that...

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Bonnibel
Posting Freak
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02-05-2017, 02:42 PM
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There are numerous accounts regarding Windows 10 performing poorly compared to 8.1. The outcome varies based on your system specs and software setup, making it a complex issue.
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Bonnibel
02-05-2017, 02:42 PM #8

There are numerous accounts regarding Windows 10 performing poorly compared to 8.1. The outcome varies based on your system specs and software setup, making it a complex issue.

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zLeoZiin
Senior Member
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02-05-2017, 03:39 PM
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Seems like your friend is experiencing the reverse—Windows 8.1 feels slow for them. Interestingly, most of the issues stem from older games and DX9 titles, which tend to run poorly.
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zLeoZiin
02-05-2017, 03:39 PM #9

Seems like your friend is experiencing the reverse—Windows 8.1 feels slow for them. Interestingly, most of the issues stem from older games and DX9 titles, which tend to run poorly.

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Niclin13
Member
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02-05-2017, 05:09 PM
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Ensure the installer contains DX redistributable files. Execute the installer. Custom DX elements might be needed for better speed. Look inside the games installer directory—most applications install this during setup but retain a separate DX file in their folders. Test it and verify performance improvements.
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Niclin13
02-05-2017, 05:09 PM #10

Ensure the installer contains DX redistributable files. Execute the installer. Custom DX elements might be needed for better speed. Look inside the games installer directory—most applications install this during setup but retain a separate DX file in their folders. Test it and verify performance improvements.