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Will this create a clear change?

Will this create a clear change?

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TheFallenRose
Senior Member
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03-07-2016, 11:14 PM
#1
I considered the setup and thought about whether boosting the clock speed would make a big difference. Running it at 3.3 with turbo might not be the best choice, but adjusting BCLK to 3.9 could help all cores run faster without turbo. A 0.6ghz increase could be noticeable.
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TheFallenRose
03-07-2016, 11:14 PM #1

I considered the setup and thought about whether boosting the clock speed would make a big difference. Running it at 3.3 with turbo might not be the best choice, but adjusting BCLK to 3.9 could help all cores run faster without turbo. A 0.6ghz increase could be noticeable.

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Audi_Sport
Member
54
03-11-2016, 04:12 PM
#2
Do you have the CPU cooler installed to manage it?
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Audi_Sport
03-11-2016, 04:12 PM #2

Do you have the CPU cooler installed to manage it?

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sCx_Batman
Member
163
03-11-2016, 06:15 PM
#3
The liquid cooler features a 120mm radiator unit.
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sCx_Batman
03-11-2016, 06:15 PM #3

The liquid cooler features a 120mm radiator unit.

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JoshTrope
Junior Member
6
03-11-2016, 09:29 PM
#4
Yes, all cores operating at 3.9GHz would outperform the specified frequencies.
Compare: 3900 MHz with 1 core, 3800 MHz with 2 cores, 3700 MHz with 3 cores, 3600 MHz with 4 cores.
The difference becomes clear only when performance is critical.
Does your board support bclk OC'ing?
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JoshTrope
03-11-2016, 09:29 PM #4

Yes, all cores operating at 3.9GHz would outperform the specified frequencies.
Compare: 3900 MHz with 1 core, 3800 MHz with 2 cores, 3700 MHz with 3 cores, 3600 MHz with 4 cores.
The difference becomes clear only when performance is critical.
Does your board support bclk OC'ing?

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comiminhamae
Member
53
03-12-2016, 03:35 AM
#5
You'll not notice the difference. Games are not static benchmarks. Games fps bounces all over the place, watch any video, you'll see by just how much. That counter will also average the fps for a single number, but chances are if it's over the refresh of your monitor, you will not see it anyways. If it's under refresh, you can't physically tell the difference between 50 and 55fps. Your brain doesn't work that small. You'd need a considerably larger range to compare to.
It's @ 8% difference in ability, or in a game at stock 100fps, you'd get 108fps, which you wouldn't see, and if the game stock was 50fps, you'd get 54fps, which you can't see.
It's not enough OC to make a difference in 98% of games, many of which weight cores more heavily than fps, and the rest really don't use cpu speeds over @ 3.4GHz to much advantage.
Not to say you shouldn't try it, but just don't be mad if the results aren't what you were hoping for.
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comiminhamae
03-12-2016, 03:35 AM #5

You'll not notice the difference. Games are not static benchmarks. Games fps bounces all over the place, watch any video, you'll see by just how much. That counter will also average the fps for a single number, but chances are if it's over the refresh of your monitor, you will not see it anyways. If it's under refresh, you can't physically tell the difference between 50 and 55fps. Your brain doesn't work that small. You'd need a considerably larger range to compare to.
It's @ 8% difference in ability, or in a game at stock 100fps, you'd get 108fps, which you wouldn't see, and if the game stock was 50fps, you'd get 54fps, which you can't see.
It's not enough OC to make a difference in 98% of games, many of which weight cores more heavily than fps, and the rest really don't use cpu speeds over @ 3.4GHz to much advantage.
Not to say you shouldn't try it, but just don't be mad if the results aren't what you were hoping for.

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oggypop
Member
240
03-12-2016, 07:25 AM
#6
My board is an MSI Z170A KRAIT-GAMING motherboard and it isn't letting me increase the BCLK beyond 118.5, which caps performance at around 3.89.
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oggypop
03-12-2016, 07:25 AM #6

My board is an MSI Z170A KRAIT-GAMING motherboard and it isn't letting me increase the BCLK beyond 118.5, which caps performance at around 3.89.

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libby2004
Junior Member
45
03-16-2016, 06:43 PM
#7
BCLK stands for Buss Clock, a transmission clock multiplier. In earlier CPUs, it influenced performance across RAM, GPU, PCIe, and USB, causing significant issues after reaching 105.7 and leading to instability in various parts. It also caused CPU temperatures to rise artificially. With the introduction of Haswell, efforts were made to separate BCLK from external components, though results remain uncertain. At 118.5, achieving stability requires a lot of BCLK, often paired with extreme overclocking and LN2 for record speeds. Without proper overclocking, the BIOS can't adapt to power needs. If BCLK optimization succeeded, Intel might upgrade all CPUs accordingly, and manufacturers would likely adopt it as the standard instead of offering free OC software that pushes BCLK up to 103.x, followed by stage 2 at 105.x.
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libby2004
03-16-2016, 06:43 PM #7

BCLK stands for Buss Clock, a transmission clock multiplier. In earlier CPUs, it influenced performance across RAM, GPU, PCIe, and USB, causing significant issues after reaching 105.7 and leading to instability in various parts. It also caused CPU temperatures to rise artificially. With the introduction of Haswell, efforts were made to separate BCLK from external components, though results remain uncertain. At 118.5, achieving stability requires a lot of BCLK, often paired with extreme overclocking and LN2 for record speeds. Without proper overclocking, the BIOS can't adapt to power needs. If BCLK optimization succeeded, Intel might upgrade all CPUs accordingly, and manufacturers would likely adopt it as the standard instead of offering free OC software that pushes BCLK up to 103.x, followed by stage 2 at 105.x.

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Endermen77
Member
51
03-22-2016, 06:56 AM
#8
Adjust your RAM speed while maintaining relaxed timing to increase the base clock. Tomorrow I intend to boost a 2.2GHz i5-6400T to 4.4GHz for full overclocking. Stay updated.
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Endermen77
03-22-2016, 06:56 AM #8

Adjust your RAM speed while maintaining relaxed timing to increase the base clock. Tomorrow I intend to boost a 2.2GHz i5-6400T to 4.4GHz for full overclocking. Stay updated.

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WD_Trashster
Senior Member
454
03-28-2016, 10:47 AM
#9
bclk OCing typically shows only small improvements. In games I’m unsure this will be obvious, but in other tasks and tests it might matter. Also bclk is quite sensitive—adjusting many components like ram, cache, or pcie can cause instability unrelated to the cpu. Overall, it’s not something to rely on unless you’re very close to a specific target.
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WD_Trashster
03-28-2016, 10:47 AM #9

bclk OCing typically shows only small improvements. In games I’m unsure this will be obvious, but in other tasks and tests it might matter. Also bclk is quite sensitive—adjusting many components like ram, cache, or pcie can cause instability unrelated to the cpu. Overall, it’s not something to rely on unless you’re very close to a specific target.

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Justicemonkey
Member
210
04-03-2016, 03:12 AM
#10
The base clock overclocking sets the difference between the pros and the rest. I achieved more than 50% improvement during my most recent attempt. The discussion is located a few pages back, from last month.
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Justicemonkey
04-03-2016, 03:12 AM #10

The base clock overclocking sets the difference between the pros and the rest. I achieved more than 50% improvement during my most recent attempt. The discussion is located a few pages back, from last month.