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Will the der8auer OC bracket with a rotated Kraken X62 fit into RAM slots?

Will the der8auer OC bracket with a rotated Kraken X62 fit into RAM slots?

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clix800
Member
122
10-20-2020, 02:03 AM
#1
The der8auer OC bracket looks tempting, as the heat isn't transferring very efficiently from my 5800X to the Kraken X62.
I saw it moves your cooler to the right though, and I'm already lacking space in that direction, as one of my RAM slots is covered. I'm thinking of turning the Kraken X62 sideways like
this
to get around the issue.
If I installed the OC backet, does that only move it to the right a tiny amount, or would it potentially completely render the slot unusable even with the rotated cooler?
I believe I've included relevant specs, but if not,
here's
my userbenchmark result which has all my parts.
Thanks
Edit: There's only 1 in stock for the whole of the UK so I'm gonna go ahead and order. I would delete this if it'd let me, but since it won't, I guess I can update this in a couple of weeks.
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clix800
10-20-2020, 02:03 AM #1

The der8auer OC bracket looks tempting, as the heat isn't transferring very efficiently from my 5800X to the Kraken X62.
I saw it moves your cooler to the right though, and I'm already lacking space in that direction, as one of my RAM slots is covered. I'm thinking of turning the Kraken X62 sideways like
this
to get around the issue.
If I installed the OC backet, does that only move it to the right a tiny amount, or would it potentially completely render the slot unusable even with the rotated cooler?
I believe I've included relevant specs, but if not,
here's
my userbenchmark result which has all my parts.
Thanks
Edit: There's only 1 in stock for the whole of the UK so I'm gonna go ahead and order. I would delete this if it'd let me, but since it won't, I guess I can update this in a couple of weeks.

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thehappy84
Senior Member
594
10-21-2020, 11:24 PM
#2
The right and downward adjustment for me on a 3600x with an Asus Rog Strix x470 F Gaming was quite simple. Using a Corsair H150i Elite Capellix. The main problem was the m.2 heatsink obstructing the installation of the pump head with the original CPU heatsink retention brackets. After removing the m.2 heatsink, attaching the pump head resolved the issue. Good luck!!!!
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thehappy84
10-21-2020, 11:24 PM #2

The right and downward adjustment for me on a 3600x with an Asus Rog Strix x470 F Gaming was quite simple. Using a Corsair H150i Elite Capellix. The main problem was the m.2 heatsink obstructing the installation of the pump head with the original CPU heatsink retention brackets. After removing the m.2 heatsink, attaching the pump head resolved the issue. Good luck!!!!

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josiecatz__10
Senior Member
640
10-24-2020, 07:30 AM
#3
It's always useful to document what you did, which could assist in addressing another query.
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josiecatz__10
10-24-2020, 07:30 AM #3

It's always useful to document what you did, which could assist in addressing another query.

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xXFirewitherXx
Posting Freak
878
10-24-2020, 04:40 PM
#4
The right and downward adjustment for me on a 3600x with an Asus Rog Strix x470 F Gaming was quite simple. Using a Corsair H150i Elite Capellix. The main problem was the m.2 heatsink obstructing the installation of the pump head with the original CPU heatsink retention brackets. After removing the m.2 heatsink, attaching the pump head resolved the issue. Good luck!!!!
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xXFirewitherXx
10-24-2020, 04:40 PM #4

The right and downward adjustment for me on a 3600x with an Asus Rog Strix x470 F Gaming was quite simple. Using a Corsair H150i Elite Capellix. The main problem was the m.2 heatsink obstructing the installation of the pump head with the original CPU heatsink retention brackets. After removing the m.2 heatsink, attaching the pump head resolved the issue. Good luck!!!!

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DOMLAK
Junior Member
3
10-25-2020, 02:10 AM
#5
Most Ryzens don't rely on a single die. They employ several dies linked by Infinity Fabric, which helps distribute the heat more evenly across the cores. This arrangement positions the cores on the right side of the CPU. Due to the Ryzen IHS design, this setup can cause problems with aio pumps, particularly for the Asetek models, since they are smaller and rounder.

Der8aur redesigned the mount to shift the pump slightly to the right by a few millimeters, aligning more of the coldplate fins directly over the cores. With two chiplets on one side and only one on the other, this adjustment is acceptable as it still accommodates all components, though it improves coverage for the two core chiplets.

Changing the mount direction completely removes this benefit; using it at all would likely expose parts of one or both core chiplets and move the microfins away from their optimal position.

Rotating the actual pump has no significant impact. The only factors that matter are air traps and tubing length. You can rotate the pump in any direction—it functions identically. It just looks a bit odd with the logo placement, though some models do allow this change.
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DOMLAK
10-25-2020, 02:10 AM #5

Most Ryzens don't rely on a single die. They employ several dies linked by Infinity Fabric, which helps distribute the heat more evenly across the cores. This arrangement positions the cores on the right side of the CPU. Due to the Ryzen IHS design, this setup can cause problems with aio pumps, particularly for the Asetek models, since they are smaller and rounder.

Der8aur redesigned the mount to shift the pump slightly to the right by a few millimeters, aligning more of the coldplate fins directly over the cores. With two chiplets on one side and only one on the other, this adjustment is acceptable as it still accommodates all components, though it improves coverage for the two core chiplets.

Changing the mount direction completely removes this benefit; using it at all would likely expose parts of one or both core chiplets and move the microfins away from their optimal position.

Rotating the actual pump has no significant impact. The only factors that matter are air traps and tubing length. You can rotate the pump in any direction—it functions identically. It just looks a bit odd with the logo placement, though some models do allow this change.

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wiw
Member
223
10-27-2020, 04:56 PM
#6
I believe the focus is on the locations of the tubes from the CPU block, with four choices available.
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wiw
10-27-2020, 04:56 PM #6

I believe the focus is on the locations of the tubes from the CPU block, with four choices available.

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mineuout482
Posting Freak
812
10-28-2020, 01:40 AM
#7
Eventually I attempted the replacement and discovered the original mounting bracket screws were unavailable nationwide because of the lockdown. I’ll have to try again once I return to my workplace. However, I’m pleased to say the solution was clear after adjusting the Kraken. Regarding the Der8aur design, it wasn’t immediately clear which of the three holes in the offset components should be used. Do you know anyone who could help with this? Both I and my dad struggled to understand the instructions. I was a bit hesitant at first, but I thought it might be worth trying. The reply from @Crosslhs82x2 seemed to get the point right. Thank you for the additional information. I’m not sure if I misinterpreted the question or just received a general caution, but I definitely wouldn’t rotate the mounting offset. I only considered rotating the pump after seeing a similar build and confirming the side view worked well.
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mineuout482
10-28-2020, 01:40 AM #7

Eventually I attempted the replacement and discovered the original mounting bracket screws were unavailable nationwide because of the lockdown. I’ll have to try again once I return to my workplace. However, I’m pleased to say the solution was clear after adjusting the Kraken. Regarding the Der8aur design, it wasn’t immediately clear which of the three holes in the offset components should be used. Do you know anyone who could help with this? Both I and my dad struggled to understand the instructions. I was a bit hesitant at first, but I thought it might be worth trying. The reply from @Crosslhs82x2 seemed to get the point right. Thank you for the additional information. I’m not sure if I misinterpreted the question or just received a general caution, but I definitely wouldn’t rotate the mounting offset. I only considered rotating the pump after seeing a similar build and confirming the side view worked well.

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Misterjaws77
Member
215
10-28-2020, 02:22 AM
#8
Hey
Thanks for letting us know.
There’s a clear distinction in the brackets we’re using for measurements.
Our brackets are designed for watercoolers with the standard Amd retention brackets, while yours is a custom set.
This means a completely different mounting approach.
Mounting sideways as described should be fine.
However, I’d prefer to place the tubes on the bottom side.
As long as the pump isn’t the highest point in the cooling system, everything should work.
Make sure the radiator is positioned higher than the pump so the air stays inside.
I won’t worry about that since my radiator is mounted at the top as an exhaust, making it the highest point for airflow.
Please share your results once you’re done.
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Misterjaws77
10-28-2020, 02:22 AM #8

Hey
Thanks for letting us know.
There’s a clear distinction in the brackets we’re using for measurements.
Our brackets are designed for watercoolers with the standard Amd retention brackets, while yours is a custom set.
This means a completely different mounting approach.
Mounting sideways as described should be fine.
However, I’d prefer to place the tubes on the bottom side.
As long as the pump isn’t the highest point in the cooling system, everything should work.
Make sure the radiator is positioned higher than the pump so the air stays inside.
I won’t worry about that since my radiator is mounted at the top as an exhaust, making it the highest point for airflow.
Please share your results once you’re done.