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Why is underclocking frowned upon or underrated?

Why is underclocking frowned upon or underrated?

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AdamKoudy
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
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When users face thermal issues with their laptops, many suggest lowering the voltage or clock speed. The Notebookreview forum is now closed, but similar advice was common even a decade ago. This isn’t new—just a lot of people skip tweaking their devices.
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AdamKoudy
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #11

When users face thermal issues with their laptops, many suggest lowering the voltage or clock speed. The Notebookreview forum is now closed, but similar advice was common even a decade ago. This isn’t new—just a lot of people skip tweaking their devices.

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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#12
Keeping things cooler can prolong the durability of your equipment.
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Tutterbutter88
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #12

Keeping things cooler can prolong the durability of your equipment.

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Reign_OF_Pain
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#13
Typically, downclocking gaming laptops isn't needed anymore, which is why people rarely mention it. Unfortunately, the G5 is a low-cost machine with a poor build and inadequate cooling, leading to this outcome.
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Reign_OF_Pain
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #13

Typically, downclocking gaming laptops isn't needed anymore, which is why people rarely mention it. Unfortunately, the G5 is a low-cost machine with a poor build and inadequate cooling, leading to this outcome.

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Dustyn1001
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#14
Only a handful of developments are happening. Mainly, those who understand how to adjust and maintain these systems already realize that playing around with a laptop isn't worth the effort, which is why they avoid purchasing them. Numerous problems make the advantages seem negligible. From the lack of real-world data, the very limited upgrade options, to the constrained power sources, it's hard not to remember that spending over $3000 essentially equates to a budget mid-range desktop. The top gaming laptops today usually come with a mobile variant of the RTX 3080, which offers marginally lower performance compared to the desktop 3060 Ti version. Adding to this, screens capped at 17.8 inches... it's rare to encounter a monitor that big anymore, unless you're looking in the used market for something under $10. Yes, you can swap out monitors, keyboards, and mice, but at that stage, does it really make the machine portable? In my view, gaming laptops still exist mainly because of students who need them. They desire a gaming PC, but their parents hesitate to buy one for "just games" since they think games aren't valuable. They say, "I need a PC for school; we have projects to focus on." So they rush out and grab the top model just in case, hoping it will last. If you're in that scenario, I can empathize—we once relied entirely on our parents for hardware. The second point is clear: modern GPUs and CPUs are built within a specific temperature range. They operate optimally there. They constantly tweak clocks and voltage to hit peak performance while respecting thermal limits. Trying to underclock or undervolt is like trying to swim against the current. It actually reduces performance by weakening the GPU/CPU. It's similar to buying a Ferrari and then forcing it to run on economy settings—sure, you save some fuel, but it doesn't deliver the power it was meant for.
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Dustyn1001
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #14

Only a handful of developments are happening. Mainly, those who understand how to adjust and maintain these systems already realize that playing around with a laptop isn't worth the effort, which is why they avoid purchasing them. Numerous problems make the advantages seem negligible. From the lack of real-world data, the very limited upgrade options, to the constrained power sources, it's hard not to remember that spending over $3000 essentially equates to a budget mid-range desktop. The top gaming laptops today usually come with a mobile variant of the RTX 3080, which offers marginally lower performance compared to the desktop 3060 Ti version. Adding to this, screens capped at 17.8 inches... it's rare to encounter a monitor that big anymore, unless you're looking in the used market for something under $10. Yes, you can swap out monitors, keyboards, and mice, but at that stage, does it really make the machine portable? In my view, gaming laptops still exist mainly because of students who need them. They desire a gaming PC, but their parents hesitate to buy one for "just games" since they think games aren't valuable. They say, "I need a PC for school; we have projects to focus on." So they rush out and grab the top model just in case, hoping it will last. If you're in that scenario, I can empathize—we once relied entirely on our parents for hardware. The second point is clear: modern GPUs and CPUs are built within a specific temperature range. They operate optimally there. They constantly tweak clocks and voltage to hit peak performance while respecting thermal limits. Trying to underclock or undervolt is like trying to swim against the current. It actually reduces performance by weakening the GPU/CPU. It's similar to buying a Ferrari and then forcing it to run on economy settings—sure, you save some fuel, but it doesn't deliver the power it was meant for.

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Teho0
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#15
for laptops the focus is mainly on the CPU, and most people notice it has an i9 inside that is great. a gtx 3080 is often mentioned too many times, even though they usually don’t list the GPU or battery size. most gaming laptops need to be connected to play games, so even with CPU thermal throttling it still offers good performance for the latest models. this seems more like marketing—manufacturers can put a Gen 12 CPU and an RTX 30 series card on the same box as if they were desktop parts. but heat is a problem for laptops, which is why companies sometimes push you to buy them despite the risks.
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Teho0
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #15

for laptops the focus is mainly on the CPU, and most people notice it has an i9 inside that is great. a gtx 3080 is often mentioned too many times, even though they usually don’t list the GPU or battery size. most gaming laptops need to be connected to play games, so even with CPU thermal throttling it still offers good performance for the latest models. this seems more like marketing—manufacturers can put a Gen 12 CPU and an RTX 30 series card on the same box as if they were desktop parts. but heat is a problem for laptops, which is why companies sometimes push you to buy them despite the risks.

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RektYourMum
Junior Member
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#16
All threads are combined.
We don’t require multiple discussions on nearly identical topics.
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RektYourMum
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #16

All threads are combined.
We don’t require multiple discussions on nearly identical topics.

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Venice_
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#17
I realized it only became clear when I received the 3080 because I couldn't tolerate the fans. Also, achieving better performance is feasible thanks to the cooler operating conditions.
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Venice_
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #17

I realized it only became clear when I received the 3080 because I couldn't tolerate the fans. Also, achieving better performance is feasible thanks to the cooler operating conditions.

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Verloh
Member
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06-16-2018, 03:58 PM
#18
People often struggle against the flow of water, but it's actually quite straightforward. For gaming on a desktop PC, it's more affordable, simpler to maintain, highly upgradeable, and can keep evolving over time. For other tasks, a laptop is sufficient. You don’t need to dedicate hours to a single project; your work won’t require constant focus on one machine. In most cases, your GPU won’t run at full capacity while you use software like Photoshop or editing tools. If you mainly need a machine for work and occasionally play games for a short time, it’s perfectly fine. However, don’t rush into a gaming laptop just because you have a few hours each evening. When your main priority is gaming, a desktop is the better choice. If budget allows, invest in a decent gaming PC; otherwise, consider used options. Many users switch to laptops for cost reasons, but this isn’t always necessary. I’ve seen people upgrade parts on their existing systems—like my 5600X running on a refurbished unit—and still enjoy solid performance. My monitors and GPU are also second-hand, which is common. Just be mindful when buying used; take your time and look for good deals. Get a reliable gaming setup at a lower price, then use a regular laptop for everyday tasks. Avoid falling for marketing hype.
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Verloh
06-16-2018, 03:58 PM #18

People often struggle against the flow of water, but it's actually quite straightforward. For gaming on a desktop PC, it's more affordable, simpler to maintain, highly upgradeable, and can keep evolving over time. For other tasks, a laptop is sufficient. You don’t need to dedicate hours to a single project; your work won’t require constant focus on one machine. In most cases, your GPU won’t run at full capacity while you use software like Photoshop or editing tools. If you mainly need a machine for work and occasionally play games for a short time, it’s perfectly fine. However, don’t rush into a gaming laptop just because you have a few hours each evening. When your main priority is gaming, a desktop is the better choice. If budget allows, invest in a decent gaming PC; otherwise, consider used options. Many users switch to laptops for cost reasons, but this isn’t always necessary. I’ve seen people upgrade parts on their existing systems—like my 5600X running on a refurbished unit—and still enjoy solid performance. My monitors and GPU are also second-hand, which is common. Just be mindful when buying used; take your time and look for good deals. Get a reliable gaming setup at a lower price, then use a regular laptop for everyday tasks. Avoid falling for marketing hype.

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