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Which Ram Is Faster? The faster one depends on your specific needs and requirements.

Which Ram Is Faster? The faster one depends on your specific needs and requirements.

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Thelo58
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10-15-2023, 08:29 PM
#11
Interesting correction! You thought it was CL16 but it was actually something else. Appreciate you catching that.
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Thelo58
10-15-2023, 08:29 PM #11

Interesting correction! You thought it was CL16 but it was actually something else. Appreciate you catching that.

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kammakaze
Junior Member
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10-17-2023, 01:59 AM
#12
I'm wondering if the 3600 isn't ideal with the timing settings. Shouldn't the 3400 run at 14-14-14-xx when it's failing? I'm not challenging your reasoning or saying the comparison isn't worth looking into, but it might differ from what you're aiming to show. In the end, I opted for 3600 because it seemed to yield slightly better scores in benchmarks, and I suspect my CPU has limitations on latency. Even if that's not accurate, the Cinebench results still looked better at that frequency. I'm considering tighter timings (just 1.36v) but am also satisfied I've successfully overclocked my RAM. It's hard to say if a real-world performance boost would matter much, especially with Vsync and 60fps still holding steady. Also, the CPU is running at 4.1 now, down from 4.2 before—maybe the board is trying to compensate for the RAM overclock?
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kammakaze
10-17-2023, 01:59 AM #12

I'm wondering if the 3600 isn't ideal with the timing settings. Shouldn't the 3400 run at 14-14-14-xx when it's failing? I'm not challenging your reasoning or saying the comparison isn't worth looking into, but it might differ from what you're aiming to show. In the end, I opted for 3600 because it seemed to yield slightly better scores in benchmarks, and I suspect my CPU has limitations on latency. Even if that's not accurate, the Cinebench results still looked better at that frequency. I'm considering tighter timings (just 1.36v) but am also satisfied I've successfully overclocked my RAM. It's hard to say if a real-world performance boost would matter much, especially with Vsync and 60fps still holding steady. Also, the CPU is running at 4.1 now, down from 4.2 before—maybe the board is trying to compensate for the RAM overclock?

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FazeGames
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10-17-2023, 06:06 PM
#13
I ran it during those times because I didn’t locate a memory kit suited for 3400MHz CL14 anywhere. The only mention was on Reddit with the timings I referenced. I considered trying 14-14-14-34, but then realized I needed to be in class in half an hour, so... Ryzen’s memory latency is usually bad, even at that speed. Still, since you’re pushing the CPU to 4.1GHz and the AIDA64 test is single-threaded, those figures could be misleading.
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FazeGames
10-17-2023, 06:06 PM #13

I ran it during those times because I didn’t locate a memory kit suited for 3400MHz CL14 anywhere. The only mention was on Reddit with the timings I referenced. I considered trying 14-14-14-34, but then realized I needed to be in class in half an hour, so... Ryzen’s memory latency is usually bad, even at that speed. Still, since you’re pushing the CPU to 4.1GHz and the AIDA64 test is single-threaded, those figures could be misleading.

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AthenasLight
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10-17-2023, 06:29 PM
#14
I believe single-rank offers the fastest performance, while double-rank provides greater capacity in relation to cost. With dual-rank, only one bank can be used at once. The distinction is similar to serial access (double-rank) versus parallel access (single-rank).
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AthenasLight
10-17-2023, 06:29 PM #14

I believe single-rank offers the fastest performance, while double-rank provides greater capacity in relation to cost. With dual-rank, only one bank can be used at once. The distinction is similar to serial access (double-rank) versus parallel access (single-rank).

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Eusebio06
Senior Member
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10-17-2023, 08:07 PM
#15
It's odd since the BIOS is set to 42x but it doesn't recognize it anymore. Most benchmarks perform better now than when it was at 4.2… I think it actually runs longer these days too—probably because of faster RAM, you know? I’d rather just figure out what the RAM specs mean. Usually I’d go for a quick reset or replacement, but honestly, tuning for bandwidth or latency could help.
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Eusebio06
10-17-2023, 08:07 PM #15

It's odd since the BIOS is set to 42x but it doesn't recognize it anymore. Most benchmarks perform better now than when it was at 4.2… I think it actually runs longer these days too—probably because of faster RAM, you know? I’d rather just figure out what the RAM specs mean. Usually I’d go for a quick reset or replacement, but honestly, tuning for bandwidth or latency could help.

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10-18-2023, 06:42 AM
#16
It's typical for Matisse. You might lower the score slightly with a strong B-Die, but it doesn't really add much value. Zen 3 dominates in nearly every category. At least for benchmarks... I believe my best result with Matisse was around 62ns for a dual-ranked setup. I'll review my screenshots once I'm back home.
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Shadowxplayz23
10-18-2023, 06:42 AM #16

It's typical for Matisse. You might lower the score slightly with a strong B-Die, but it doesn't really add much value. Zen 3 dominates in nearly every category. At least for benchmarks... I believe my best result with Matisse was around 62ns for a dual-ranked setup. I'll review my screenshots once I'm back home.

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Deneth_
Member
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10-18-2023, 08:14 AM
#17
Single rank offers fewer chips, lower power use, reduced electrical interference, and a simpler RAM stick board. It also eases the load on the CPU memory controller, which can boost overclocking chances. Double rank provides more RAM chips, slightly higher power draw, possibly warmer components, and the controller can't access both ranks simultaneously. However, it allows actions like: if processing takes 16 ns, first choose rank 0, then issue a command, switch to rank 1, and so on. If the whole sequence takes just 2 ns, wait 14 ns or until rank 0 finishes before starting rank 1. Spending 100 ns reading from rank 0 saves time later because rank 1 is already prepared. Single rank is like this process; double rank adds extra steps.
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Deneth_
10-18-2023, 08:14 AM #17

Single rank offers fewer chips, lower power use, reduced electrical interference, and a simpler RAM stick board. It also eases the load on the CPU memory controller, which can boost overclocking chances. Double rank provides more RAM chips, slightly higher power draw, possibly warmer components, and the controller can't access both ranks simultaneously. However, it allows actions like: if processing takes 16 ns, first choose rank 0, then issue a command, switch to rank 1, and so on. If the whole sequence takes just 2 ns, wait 14 ns or until rank 0 finishes before starting rank 1. Spending 100 ns reading from rank 0 saves time later because rank 1 is already prepared. Single rank is like this process; double rank adds extra steps.

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TommyTheLommy
Posting Freak
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10-19-2023, 02:01 AM
#18
yeah, well, i have good b-die, Im just a wuss and think 1.36v is all this mobo will survive realistically : D Seriously, it already clocks the cpu lower (because??) i mean it always was 4.2 or higher (4.25) but since i have this super RAM, not anymore lol o.o yeah, i guess thats possible, the memory controller just isnt great to my understanding, also I have no cpu OC and the cpu doesnt want to be overclocked anyhow (lol i tried)
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TommyTheLommy
10-19-2023, 02:01 AM #18

yeah, well, i have good b-die, Im just a wuss and think 1.36v is all this mobo will survive realistically : D Seriously, it already clocks the cpu lower (because??) i mean it always was 4.2 or higher (4.25) but since i have this super RAM, not anymore lol o.o yeah, i guess thats possible, the memory controller just isnt great to my understanding, also I have no cpu OC and the cpu doesnt want to be overclocked anyhow (lol i tried)

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enoga
Junior Member
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10-19-2023, 06:47 AM
#19
You should handle 1.5v daily on those sticks when you circulate air well. 1.6 works fine with great cooling performance—just add some bolts if needed. If you run your CPU at an all-core overclock, keep it below 1.35v across all workloads like p95 and Linpack.
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enoga
10-19-2023, 06:47 AM #19

You should handle 1.5v daily on those sticks when you circulate air well. 1.6 works fine with great cooling performance—just add some bolts if needed. If you run your CPU at an all-core overclock, keep it below 1.35v across all workloads like p95 and Linpack.

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Hapixx
Junior Member
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11-04-2023, 01:27 AM
#20
The controller is working properly; the issue lies with the fabric. They should address the problems in AM4 and improve them for AM5. AM4 performs well, but it still has several issues.
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Hapixx
11-04-2023, 01:27 AM #20

The controller is working properly; the issue lies with the fabric. They should address the problems in AM4 and improve them for AM5. AM4 performs well, but it still has several issues.

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