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Which computers perform most effectively in high ambient temperatures?

Which computers perform most effectively in high ambient temperatures?

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08-17-2023, 09:58 PM
#1
With climate change we must consider limits on the lowest temperature in air-conditioned spaces. I aim to pick a new desktop for office use, not gaming, that can handle higher room temperatures. I observe that industrial models from Premio Inc. use solid heat pipes instead of fans, but they are too costly and unlikely to be available in Australia. I’m okay with the machine running slower when temperatures rise, but I hope it performs like an i7 processor. I prefer not to build it myself. Would anyone suggest a ready-made option or the optimal components if I opt for a custom build? Are there specific settings, such as limiting active threads, that could assist?
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Kawaiichan1776
08-17-2023, 09:58 PM #1

With climate change we must consider limits on the lowest temperature in air-conditioned spaces. I aim to pick a new desktop for office use, not gaming, that can handle higher room temperatures. I observe that industrial models from Premio Inc. use solid heat pipes instead of fans, but they are too costly and unlikely to be available in Australia. I’m okay with the machine running slower when temperatures rise, but I hope it performs like an i7 processor. I prefer not to build it myself. Would anyone suggest a ready-made option or the optimal components if I opt for a custom build? Are there specific settings, such as limiting active threads, that could assist?

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ElTorchoN
Member
161
08-17-2023, 11:19 PM
#2
I question whether a small minimum temperature in an air-conditioned space will significantly impact comfort.
Most systems and parts operate with a relatively high "maximum temperature," and any room set to keep that level will likely feel very uncomfortable.
What temperature ranges should we anticipate for the PC, room, and surroundings?
Note:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/pc-op... indicates under 60 degrees C for a prolonged time.
In general, removing heat needs a cooler environment to release it.
When compared to the PC’s temperatures, even a modestly cooled AC room feels cooler.
Begin by measuring actual temperatures.
Quantify the issues and act accordingly.
Additional considerations: multiple PCs, room dimensions, AC power (BTUs), air movement, windows, and other devices.
Consider the broader context.
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ElTorchoN
08-17-2023, 11:19 PM #2

I question whether a small minimum temperature in an air-conditioned space will significantly impact comfort.
Most systems and parts operate with a relatively high "maximum temperature," and any room set to keep that level will likely feel very uncomfortable.
What temperature ranges should we anticipate for the PC, room, and surroundings?
Note:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/pc-op... indicates under 60 degrees C for a prolonged time.
In general, removing heat needs a cooler environment to release it.
When compared to the PC’s temperatures, even a modestly cooled AC room feels cooler.
Begin by measuring actual temperatures.
Quantify the issues and act accordingly.
Additional considerations: multiple PCs, room dimensions, AC power (BTUs), air movement, windows, and other devices.
Consider the broader context.

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TheToxickiid
Member
68
08-19-2023, 03:57 PM
#3
Standard desktop and laptop machines are built to function in room temperatures up to +35° C (95° F). A strong laptop or a compact, tight PC might exceed this limit. Server and industrial-grade systems often handle higher heat levels. For instance, the Dell Optiplex XE series operates at +45° C (113° F) or +55° C (131° F) when using an optional air ducting kit.

MIL SP systems are typically built for +55° C environments. If you plan to run above +40° C (104° F) in Australia, consider a machine with a spacious, well-ventilated case and a substantial air cooler (Dark Rock Pro 4/Noctua NH-D15) or a large AIO 240/360mm cooler, ensuring ample capacity.

Small cooling solutions might lack sufficient "headroom" to manage the heat from a very powerful CPU. It’s usually wise to avoid CPUs like Intel i9-13900K and AMD 7950X, or similar high-performance chips. Opt for CPUs with low thermal design power (95W THD) and you should be fine.

This illustration shows what 8kW of liquid cooling looks like inside a Wiwynn chassis.
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TheToxickiid
08-19-2023, 03:57 PM #3

Standard desktop and laptop machines are built to function in room temperatures up to +35° C (95° F). A strong laptop or a compact, tight PC might exceed this limit. Server and industrial-grade systems often handle higher heat levels. For instance, the Dell Optiplex XE series operates at +45° C (113° F) or +55° C (131° F) when using an optional air ducting kit.

MIL SP systems are typically built for +55° C environments. If you plan to run above +40° C (104° F) in Australia, consider a machine with a spacious, well-ventilated case and a substantial air cooler (Dark Rock Pro 4/Noctua NH-D15) or a large AIO 240/360mm cooler, ensuring ample capacity.

Small cooling solutions might lack sufficient "headroom" to manage the heat from a very powerful CPU. It’s usually wise to avoid CPUs like Intel i9-13900K and AMD 7950X, or similar high-performance chips. Opt for CPUs with low thermal design power (95W THD) and you should be fine.

This illustration shows what 8kW of liquid cooling looks like inside a Wiwynn chassis.

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babamanga04
Member
99
08-20-2023, 05:25 PM
#4
Current processor and motherboard designs aim to handle high temperatures effectively. For Intel, 95c is likely the standard; for AMD, 100c seems appropriate. When temperatures rise and cooling becomes challenging, the processor tends to slow down until conditions improve. In short, don’t be concerned. There’s a useful article about running a 13900K with limited cooling options: Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide – Testing Intel’s Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs. The Core i9-13900K can handle even the best liquid coolers, but budget air cooling still maintains solid performance. If you use an SSD for your files, speed will remain consistent. For everyday office tasks, the i3-13100 with the built-in cooler is a solid choice.
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babamanga04
08-20-2023, 05:25 PM #4

Current processor and motherboard designs aim to handle high temperatures effectively. For Intel, 95c is likely the standard; for AMD, 100c seems appropriate. When temperatures rise and cooling becomes challenging, the processor tends to slow down until conditions improve. In short, don’t be concerned. There’s a useful article about running a 13900K with limited cooling options: Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide – Testing Intel’s Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs. The Core i9-13900K can handle even the best liquid coolers, but budget air cooling still maintains solid performance. If you use an SSD for your files, speed will remain consistent. For everyday office tasks, the i3-13100 with the built-in cooler is a solid choice.

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TVtrollll69
Junior Member
38
08-24-2023, 08:08 AM
#5
Find Intel T class processors in pre-builts. They are extremely low power CPUs and are naturally suited for maintaining low temperatures. Extra if you use the same T class processor with a large heatsink or fan.
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TVtrollll69
08-24-2023, 08:08 AM #5

Find Intel T class processors in pre-builts. They are extremely low power CPUs and are naturally suited for maintaining low temperatures. Extra if you use the same T class processor with a large heatsink or fan.

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AWSOMO3000
Member
166
08-25-2023, 12:48 AM
#6
Another issue when using a computer in high temperatures is whether the power supply can function above +30°C without losing efficiency. Some detailed reviewers test the unit under intense heat by placing it in a "hot box" and measuring performance at full capacity. The PSU's heat increases the internal air temperature significantly, often surpassing 40°C. This serves as a practical substitute for a properly climate-controlled test chamber.

Some PSUs are less precise and begin to lower their maximum output when the air temperature inside the unit goes above 30°C. More reliable units start to restrict power generation at around 40°C, while top-tier models do not reduce performance until 50°C. This means you can still operate at full capacity inside the case at that temperature.

Running a computer in a room with temperatures above 40°C could cause the case interior to reach 50°C or more. At such extremes, poorly designed PSUs are likely to shut down, reduce output, or even catch fire. Only the highest quality PSUs can maintain full power up to 50°C ambient conditions.

If you're unsure about a PSU's temperature handling, it's safer to assume a 50% output at 50°C. For example, if your system draws 500W, consider upgrading to a 1kW unit.
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AWSOMO3000
08-25-2023, 12:48 AM #6

Another issue when using a computer in high temperatures is whether the power supply can function above +30°C without losing efficiency. Some detailed reviewers test the unit under intense heat by placing it in a "hot box" and measuring performance at full capacity. The PSU's heat increases the internal air temperature significantly, often surpassing 40°C. This serves as a practical substitute for a properly climate-controlled test chamber.

Some PSUs are less precise and begin to lower their maximum output when the air temperature inside the unit goes above 30°C. More reliable units start to restrict power generation at around 40°C, while top-tier models do not reduce performance until 50°C. This means you can still operate at full capacity inside the case at that temperature.

Running a computer in a room with temperatures above 40°C could cause the case interior to reach 50°C or more. At such extremes, poorly designed PSUs are likely to shut down, reduce output, or even catch fire. Only the highest quality PSUs can maintain full power up to 50°C ambient conditions.

If you're unsure about a PSU's temperature handling, it's safer to assume a 50% output at 50°C. For example, if your system draws 500W, consider upgrading to a 1kW unit.