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What tool or approach is best for increasing the clock speed of an AMD Ryzen processor?

What tool or approach is best for increasing the clock speed of an AMD Ryzen processor?

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Thomawaks
Junior Member
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12-29-2020, 01:58 AM
#1
I recently changed from Intel to AMD using a 5900X on an Asus Crosshair Hero motherboard.
Most people suggest adjusting the BIOS settings either manually or automatically. I’m not sure because I haven’t really worked with the BIOS much. In the past, I mostly relied on software to overclock my system, such as when using AI Suite3 with Dual Intelligent Processors. Now I realize this method is outdated and not the best choice.
Currently, I’m considering AMD Ryzen Master but am unsure. I’d like to explore the BIOS option if there’s a way to automate the process instead of entering values manually.

For the GPU, I still use MSI Afterburner, as it remains a top choice for GPU utilities unless newer alternatives emerge. I’m not entirely confident about its current setup since my GPU has a waterblock and no fan curve to adjust.

I manage all case fan speeds using iCue.

Other questions:
My iCue readings on the 5900X only show load and temperature data, not clock speed. Also, I’m concerned about the two 216°C readings on my motherboard. This is unusual. Additionally, Fan #2 is running at 65K RPM.
Thank you very much for your help!
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Thomawaks
12-29-2020, 01:58 AM #1

I recently changed from Intel to AMD using a 5900X on an Asus Crosshair Hero motherboard.
Most people suggest adjusting the BIOS settings either manually or automatically. I’m not sure because I haven’t really worked with the BIOS much. In the past, I mostly relied on software to overclock my system, such as when using AI Suite3 with Dual Intelligent Processors. Now I realize this method is outdated and not the best choice.
Currently, I’m considering AMD Ryzen Master but am unsure. I’d like to explore the BIOS option if there’s a way to automate the process instead of entering values manually.

For the GPU, I still use MSI Afterburner, as it remains a top choice for GPU utilities unless newer alternatives emerge. I’m not entirely confident about its current setup since my GPU has a waterblock and no fan curve to adjust.

I manage all case fan speeds using iCue.

Other questions:
My iCue readings on the 5900X only show load and temperature data, not clock speed. Also, I’m concerned about the two 216°C readings on my motherboard. This is unusual. Additionally, Fan #2 is running at 65K RPM.
Thank you very much for your help!

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piglover5106
Junior Member
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12-30-2020, 03:42 AM
#2
For the unusual readings, I would run HWinfo64 and verify it. It's extremely precise. The initial phase must involve determining the maximum CPU voltage that appears during a full-core intensive task. There are resources available, but I wouldn't rely on YouTube for this. Unless you're using a well-known overclocker such as Der Bauer or Buildzoid. In terms of manual CPU overclocking, BIOS remains the most reliable method. Tools are limited; we'll see if Hydra behaves differently. There are generally two to three OC approaches, including PBO, Curve Optimizer, and traditional static overclocking. The choice is yours. PBO combined with CO can be used together. Static overclock requires turning off PBO and CO. With static overclock, the main factors are CPU...
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piglover5106
12-30-2020, 03:42 AM #2

For the unusual readings, I would run HWinfo64 and verify it. It's extremely precise. The initial phase must involve determining the maximum CPU voltage that appears during a full-core intensive task. There are resources available, but I wouldn't rely on YouTube for this. Unless you're using a well-known overclocker such as Der Bauer or Buildzoid. In terms of manual CPU overclocking, BIOS remains the most reliable method. Tools are limited; we'll see if Hydra behaves differently. There are generally two to three OC approaches, including PBO, Curve Optimizer, and traditional static overclocking. The choice is yours. PBO combined with CO can be used together. Static overclock requires turning off PBO and CO. With static overclock, the main factors are CPU...

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Bxpe
Junior Member
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12-30-2020, 04:25 AM
#3
For the unusual measurements, I would execute HWinfo64 and verify that result. It provides high precision. The initial phase must involve determining the maximum CPU voltage expected during a full-core intensive task. Data is available from various sources; I wouldn't rely on YouTube for this. Unless you're using a well-known overclocker such as Der Bauer or Buildzoid. In terms of manual CPU tuning, BIOS remains the most reliable method. Tools are limited in effectiveness. We'll determine if Hydra behaves differently. There are generally two to three overclocking approaches, including PBO, Curve Optimizer, and traditional static methods. The choice depends on your preference. Combining PBO with CO is possible. Static overclocking requires turning off PBO and CO. When using static overclock, you control three parameters: CPU voltage, LLC level, and frequency. With PBO, you manage three more variables: PPT, TDC, EDC. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-...ks-auto-oc Scroll down Usually, EDC sets the upper boundary; maintaining it below 100% during heavy use is crucial. Hwinfo64 will display this figure. If you can maintain EDC between 90-98% under load, you should achieve optimal performance. With CO, a negative offset is applied—either across all cores or per core. While per-core testing is more complex, it often yields superior outcomes. I suspect the difference isn't significant, so I won't bother testing it further.
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Bxpe
12-30-2020, 04:25 AM #3

For the unusual measurements, I would execute HWinfo64 and verify that result. It provides high precision. The initial phase must involve determining the maximum CPU voltage expected during a full-core intensive task. Data is available from various sources; I wouldn't rely on YouTube for this. Unless you're using a well-known overclocker such as Der Bauer or Buildzoid. In terms of manual CPU tuning, BIOS remains the most reliable method. Tools are limited in effectiveness. We'll determine if Hydra behaves differently. There are generally two to three overclocking approaches, including PBO, Curve Optimizer, and traditional static methods. The choice depends on your preference. Combining PBO with CO is possible. Static overclocking requires turning off PBO and CO. When using static overclock, you control three parameters: CPU voltage, LLC level, and frequency. With PBO, you manage three more variables: PPT, TDC, EDC. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-...ks-auto-oc Scroll down Usually, EDC sets the upper boundary; maintaining it below 100% during heavy use is crucial. Hwinfo64 will display this figure. If you can maintain EDC between 90-98% under load, you should achieve optimal performance. With CO, a negative offset is applied—either across all cores or per core. While per-core testing is more complex, it often yields superior outcomes. I suspect the difference isn't significant, so I won't bother testing it further.

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KaisSou
Member
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12-30-2020, 07:52 AM
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Hello, thank you for your response. I'll give it a shot. Regarding the readings from HWInfo, it doesn't display 216°C, which is confusing—I'm not sure what that means. Also, about CPU overclocking: would it really help if I mainly use it for gaming, or should I keep it as is? I tend to set my system to 4K Ultra with HDR/RTX enabled.
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KaisSou
12-30-2020, 07:52 AM #4

Hello, thank you for your response. I'll give it a shot. Regarding the readings from HWInfo, it doesn't display 216°C, which is confusing—I'm not sure what that means. Also, about CPU overclocking: would it really help if I mainly use it for gaming, or should I keep it as is? I tend to set my system to 4K Ultra with HDR/RTX enabled.

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livtheviking
Posting Freak
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12-30-2020, 09:47 AM
#5
No real improvement comes from overclocking, just ensure a quality cooler, activate boost, and use PBO2.
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livtheviking
12-30-2020, 09:47 AM #5

No real improvement comes from overclocking, just ensure a quality cooler, activate boost, and use PBO2.

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Velizar06
Posting Freak
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12-30-2020, 10:52 AM
#6
There is a long record of programs struggling to interpret Ryzens sensors properly unless Hwinfo64 is used. At 4k resolution, CPU isn't the main issue. Benchmarks showing games at 1080p mainly test CPU performance. At 1440p, CPU becomes less significant, while RAM comparisons between Singlerank and dualrank matter more, often causing noticeable differences like 1-2 fps. GPU performance becomes the key factor beyond 1080p. I currently run at 1440p and have no prior experience with 4k. However, CPU likely still plays a smaller role in games. Overclocking at 4K seems unnecessary without concrete data, though many opt for PBO and are content with it. Personally, I’m not fully convinced but enjoy overclocking more than gaming.
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Velizar06
12-30-2020, 10:52 AM #6

There is a long record of programs struggling to interpret Ryzens sensors properly unless Hwinfo64 is used. At 4k resolution, CPU isn't the main issue. Benchmarks showing games at 1080p mainly test CPU performance. At 1440p, CPU becomes less significant, while RAM comparisons between Singlerank and dualrank matter more, often causing noticeable differences like 1-2 fps. GPU performance becomes the key factor beyond 1080p. I currently run at 1440p and have no prior experience with 4k. However, CPU likely still plays a smaller role in games. Overclocking at 4K seems unnecessary without concrete data, though many opt for PBO and are content with it. Personally, I’m not fully convinced but enjoy overclocking more than gaming.

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choppchopp
Member
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01-02-2021, 06:56 AM
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I completely support HWInfo as the top choice for monitoring Ryzen. The writer invested significant time in grasping the CPU's peculiarities and offering various sensor readings from the CPU's SVI2 telemetry, which helps you accurately evaluate performance. His tool also stands out for clearly explaining the sensors wherever possible.

I also concur that overclocking, in the traditional sense, is largely unnecessary. You may spend hours fine-tuning a stable clock that marginally enhances multi-thread performance only to discover it negatively impacts light-threaded performance most crucial for gaming. This highlights how well-balanced and optimized the Ryzen boosting algorithm is.

The boosting algorithm is tightly linked to temperature. Enhanced cooling can extend its boost time during demanding all-core tasks. While it may offer less benefit in gaming compared to its impact on heavy workloads, superior cooling is just as effective as overclocking in many aspects because it allows the CPU to operate at higher frequencies under intense processing.

However, with excellent cooling, you could activate PBO. This doesn't truly overclock but rather eliminates constraints that restrict the boost algorithm. It will cause the CPU to run hotter, so adequate cooling becomes essential to prevent the boost from being limited due to temperature.
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choppchopp
01-02-2021, 06:56 AM #7

I completely support HWInfo as the top choice for monitoring Ryzen. The writer invested significant time in grasping the CPU's peculiarities and offering various sensor readings from the CPU's SVI2 telemetry, which helps you accurately evaluate performance. His tool also stands out for clearly explaining the sensors wherever possible.

I also concur that overclocking, in the traditional sense, is largely unnecessary. You may spend hours fine-tuning a stable clock that marginally enhances multi-thread performance only to discover it negatively impacts light-threaded performance most crucial for gaming. This highlights how well-balanced and optimized the Ryzen boosting algorithm is.

The boosting algorithm is tightly linked to temperature. Enhanced cooling can extend its boost time during demanding all-core tasks. While it may offer less benefit in gaming compared to its impact on heavy workloads, superior cooling is just as effective as overclocking in many aspects because it allows the CPU to operate at higher frequencies under intense processing.

However, with excellent cooling, you could activate PBO. This doesn't truly overclock but rather eliminates constraints that restrict the boost algorithm. It will cause the CPU to run hotter, so adequate cooling becomes essential to prevent the boost from being limited due to temperature.