What is wrong with my Ryzen?
What is wrong with my Ryzen?
I am testing my Ryzen 1700 at 3.7 Ghz with 1.2625V and the stock cooler. It idles around 35-45 degrees in an ambient of 25 degrees. After a realbench stress test with 8GB RAM, it crashed after 10 minutes and reached 86 degrees. HWmonitor shows similar temperatures to Ryzen Master. Isn’t that quite high?
I own an MSI B350 Tomahawk with BIOS 1.62, running Trident Z 3200 CL16 at 2933 CL14. Could the RAM be unstable, or is there a problem with the temperature readings in this BIOS? I’m not sure if these temperatures are normal.
I’m planning to purchase some quality thermal paste. What’s your take on the maximum acceptable temperature of 94 degrees for a stress test? It does sound quite high. Slightly higher than that, they throttle at 95, so you’re correct—it’s right at the limit. I wouldn’t really go beyond 75-80°C in reality.
I'm testing my Ryzen 1700 at 3.7 Ghz with 1.2625V and a stock cooler. It idles around 35-45 degrees in an ambient of 25 degrees. After a stress test with 8GB RAM, it crashed after 10 minutes and reached up to 86 degrees. My HWmonitor shows similar temperatures as Ryzen Master usually does. Isn't that quite high?
I own an MSI B350 Tomahawk with BIOS version 1.62, running Trident Z 3200 CL16 on 2933 CL14. Could the problem actually be with the RAM? I'm not sure if the temperature readings from this BIOS are accurate—it might just be a false reading.
The 86 degrees seems a bit high; idle temperatures are normal and a 10°C difference from ambient is typical. Is this the maximum temperature, or is it still rising? I think the instability likely comes from the RAM. The BIOS is beta, so it might not be fully stable yet. Trident Z 3200 is a Hynix chip, and I'm not certain if it supports CL14. For now, sticking with stock timings would help rule out the RAM as the cause. If you can pass stress tests, then it's probably the RAM issue.
I tried again using 2666 16 18 18 36 and it seemed to pass the test, but after stopping the stress test for 15 minutes it crashed once more. The monitor stopped receiving input, just like before. This time the temperature reached a maximum of 85 degrees, which didn’t go higher. Many users are also reporting issues with the RGB of this RAM, and the control software appears to alter the SPD. I can no longer get a stick to light up, so I’m considering sending it back. This is why I brought it up—these sticks are showing CRC errors in the Thaiphoon burner software, which might also cause instability.
I attempted once more using the configuration 2666 16 18 18 36 and it seemed to complete the test successfully. However, when the system stopped after 15 minutes, it crashed once again, and my monitor ceased to receive any input, similar to previous incidents. This time the temperature reached a maximum of 85 degrees, which did not exceed that level.
I also want to highlight that several users are experiencing difficulties with the RGB settings of this RAM. The control software appears to alter the SPD values, preventing the RAM from lighting up properly. I’m unable to get any stick to activate, so I decided to return it. This issue is linked to CRC errors reported by the Thaiphoon burner software, which might also contribute to instability.
Edit: The crashes occurred specifically when the system was halting during the benchmark, possibly due to an NVIDIA driver problem. It seems the test passed overall.
I recommend removing the beta BIOS and installing the latest official version, as this could be the root cause of your issues.
First, avoid using any software to manage the RAM LEDs. I didn’t realize you had the RGB option; completely uninstalling it will reset the LED colors and patterns by changing the SPD data stored on the drives. This definitely corrupts the SPD information. You can recover it with Thaiphoon—this worked for me, but you’ll need to buy the updated version for $16 or return the old ones. Once you replace them, try running Thaiphoon again and check if the CRC error persists.
Second, your CPU might not be stable yet; it may need a bit more voltage.
Third, I’ve noticed many people face problems with the BSODs and NVIDIA driver issues. Are you using the most recent drivers?
To confirm whether the CPU is the source of these crashes, perform a stress test using IBT with 50 passes under standard conditions. For a more thorough check, include the RAM in the test by setting it to 20-25 passes, which will take around 6 hours. You can find instructions here: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-i...ntest.html
I am using the newest drivers. I updated the BIOS to the latest official version, but nothing changed much—it crashed again at the end. Then I adjusted the CPU voltage to 1.275V and ran the Intel burn test with a standard 50 passes. It crashed after about 8 passes and reached 89 degrees, which worried me enough to stop it soon. How could someone handle 1.275V when others manage 1.35V and 3.8 OC with the stock cooler? I have five case fans—two intake fronts and three exhausts on top, all running at 100% above 75°C. The CPU cooler also runs at 100% at 80°C. Do I really need to lower the OC to 3.65?
Edit: I changed the VCore to 1.2875, set the voltage to 1.1, and switched the LLC mode to 20%. After 5 passes in IBT, it rose to 92°C in just five minutes. Now with Realbench, it didn’t crash this time, but the temperatures were extremely high—reaching 94°C.
I'm using the newest drivers. I updated the BIOS to the latest official version but nothing changed much—it crashed again at the end. Then I adjusted the CPU voltage to 1.275V and ran the Intel burn test with a standard 50 passes. It crashed after about 8 passes, reaching up to 89 degrees, which really worried me and made me want to stop using it soon. How could someone handle 1.275V when others manage 1.35V and 3.8 OC with the stock cooler? I have five case fans—two intake fronts and three exhausts on top, all running at 100% at temperatures above 75 degrees. The CPU cooler also runs at 100% at 80 degrees. Should I really lower the OC to 3.65?
I changed the VCore to 1.2875 and set the NB voltage to 1.1, along with switching the LLC mode to 20%. During 5 passes in IBT, the temperature rose to 92 degrees quickly. Now, with Realbench, it didn’t crash this time, but the temperatures were extremely high, reaching a maximum of 94 degrees.
You're making progress—NB voltage is helpful, but remember it affects CPU temps too. If you have any thermal paste, trying to remount the cooler might help lower those temperatures. Otherwise, you can always buy another cooler for a more affordable option.
I’m planning to purchase some quality thermal paste. What’s your take on the maximum acceptable temperature of 94 degrees for a stress test? It does sound quite high. Slightly higher than that, they throttle at 95, so you’re correct—it’s right at the limit. I wouldn’t really go beyond 75-80°C in reality.