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What is the purpose of 4 dimms when most rams won't work, but at highly overclocked levels?

What is the purpose of 4 dimms when most rams won't work, but at highly overclocked levels?

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jrobbs7
Member
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02-07-2016, 01:27 PM
#1
Hello,
I have a suggestion for all motherboard makers.
Most high-end memory kits don’t support 4 DIMMs as shown in the QVL lists.
What’s the purpose of including 4 DIMMs in motherboards that are meant for overclocking?
Perhaps it’s better to stick with 2 DIMMs, which would provide more room around the CPU for better cooling with large coolers and bigger VRM coolers.
In dual channel MMAX OCed systems, the board simply won’t work with the highest OC 4 DIMMS configuration at all.
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jrobbs7
02-07-2016, 01:27 PM #1

Hello,
I have a suggestion for all motherboard makers.
Most high-end memory kits don’t support 4 DIMMs as shown in the QVL lists.
What’s the purpose of including 4 DIMMs in motherboards that are meant for overclocking?
Perhaps it’s better to stick with 2 DIMMs, which would provide more room around the CPU for better cooling with large coolers and bigger VRM coolers.
In dual channel MMAX OCed systems, the board simply won’t work with the highest OC 4 DIMMS configuration at all.

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CrazyCat155
Junior Member
23
02-12-2016, 06:26 AM
#2
In reality, they will, or at least could, work properly when set up manually with accurate timing, voltage settings, the newest BIOS, and a solid power supply from a reliable source. A good VRM and power phase design, along with adequate cooling, are also essential. More importantly, not all boards are suited for high-speed memory—most users understand that beyond around 3400mhz, the advantages diminish significantly. Therefore, for those who use their systems for both gaming and productivity, particularly when running demanding professional tasks or virtual machines, having a system with ample memory rather than ultra-fast modules tends to be more valuable.
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CrazyCat155
02-12-2016, 06:26 AM #2

In reality, they will, or at least could, work properly when set up manually with accurate timing, voltage settings, the newest BIOS, and a solid power supply from a reliable source. A good VRM and power phase design, along with adequate cooling, are also essential. More importantly, not all boards are suited for high-speed memory—most users understand that beyond around 3400mhz, the advantages diminish significantly. Therefore, for those who use their systems for both gaming and productivity, particularly when running demanding professional tasks or virtual machines, having a system with ample memory rather than ultra-fast modules tends to be more valuable.

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Skotcher
Member
182
02-14-2016, 12:54 AM
#3
In reality, they will, or at least could, when set up manually with proper timing, voltage, the latest BIOS, and a solid power source from a quality supply, along with a robust VRM and cooling system. More crucially, not every board will be suited for high-speed RAM—most users understand that after around 3400mhz, the advantages diminish significantly. Therefore, for those who use their systems for both gaming and productivity, particularly when running demanding professional tasks or virtual machines, having a substantial memory capacity is likely more valuable than extremely fast modules.

The key point remains: all memory modules must be part of a matched set that has been verified by the manufacturer to work together seamlessly. When this condition is met, you greatly increase your chances of successfully installing four modules, regardless of speed, and ensuring smooth operation within a single system—even if minor timing or voltage tweaks are necessary.
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Skotcher
02-14-2016, 12:54 AM #3

In reality, they will, or at least could, when set up manually with proper timing, voltage, the latest BIOS, and a solid power source from a quality supply, along with a robust VRM and cooling system. More crucially, not every board will be suited for high-speed RAM—most users understand that after around 3400mhz, the advantages diminish significantly. Therefore, for those who use their systems for both gaming and productivity, particularly when running demanding professional tasks or virtual machines, having a substantial memory capacity is likely more valuable than extremely fast modules.

The key point remains: all memory modules must be part of a matched set that has been verified by the manufacturer to work together seamlessly. When this condition is met, you greatly increase your chances of successfully installing four modules, regardless of speed, and ensuring smooth operation within a single system—even if minor timing or voltage tweaks are necessary.

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catseecoo
Senior Member
662
02-16-2016, 07:11 AM
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It's not about the kits not supporting it... The issue lies in the boards not being built for Quad Channel. They do have four DIMMS, but using them requires higher timings and speeds. If you need that, you must upgrade to Premium Platforms.

Consumer-level boards aren't meant for features you request, as most buyers only need 8-16GB RAM and two sticks.
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catseecoo
02-16-2016, 07:11 AM #4

It's not about the kits not supporting it... The issue lies in the boards not being built for Quad Channel. They do have four DIMMS, but using them requires higher timings and speeds. If you need that, you must upgrade to Premium Platforms.

Consumer-level boards aren't meant for features you request, as most buyers only need 8-16GB RAM and two sticks.

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yKanekiPvP
Junior Member
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02-16-2016, 03:59 PM
#5
Hello,
I have a suggestion for all motherboard makers.
Most high-end OC memory kits don’t work with 4 dimensions as shown in the QVL lists.
Why make them 4 DIMMs when we can just use 2? This would give more space around the CPU for better cooling and larger VRM coolers.
In dual channel MMAX OCed systems, the board simply won’t support the highest OC 4 DIMM configuration.
You might rephrase the question like this:
What’s the benefit of heavy overclocking if you can’t fully utilize all four DIMM slots?
The answer is to tailor performance to your specific needs—whether it’s memory capacity or clock speed.
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yKanekiPvP
02-16-2016, 03:59 PM #5

Hello,
I have a suggestion for all motherboard makers.
Most high-end OC memory kits don’t work with 4 dimensions as shown in the QVL lists.
Why make them 4 DIMMs when we can just use 2? This would give more space around the CPU for better cooling and larger VRM coolers.
In dual channel MMAX OCed systems, the board simply won’t support the highest OC 4 DIMM configuration.
You might rephrase the question like this:
What’s the benefit of heavy overclocking if you can’t fully utilize all four DIMM slots?
The answer is to tailor performance to your specific needs—whether it’s memory capacity or clock speed.

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YukiSienna
Junior Member
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02-16-2016, 04:09 PM
#6
Delalo:
It's not about the kits not supporting it... The issue lies with the boards not being built for Quad Channel. They do have 4 DIMMS, but using them requires higher timings and speeds. If you need that, you should invest in Premium Platforms. Consumer-level boards aren't meant for features you request, as most buyers only need 8-16GB RAM and typically buy just two sticks.

I believe you misunderstood. High timings aren't what you want; low timings are usually what people seek. Only a handful of memory timings are considered better in a numerical sense. I don’t think the problem is related to Quad Channel at all. A motherboard supporting quad channel or up to 8 channels will handle four modules more smoothly than a dual-channel board with just four slots, considering the overall architecture. Still, many users run dual-channel setups with four DIMMs if they adjust the setup and make minor adjustments.
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YukiSienna
02-16-2016, 04:09 PM #6

Delalo:
It's not about the kits not supporting it... The issue lies with the boards not being built for Quad Channel. They do have 4 DIMMS, but using them requires higher timings and speeds. If you need that, you should invest in Premium Platforms. Consumer-level boards aren't meant for features you request, as most buyers only need 8-16GB RAM and typically buy just two sticks.

I believe you misunderstood. High timings aren't what you want; low timings are usually what people seek. Only a handful of memory timings are considered better in a numerical sense. I don’t think the problem is related to Quad Channel at all. A motherboard supporting quad channel or up to 8 channels will handle four modules more smoothly than a dual-channel board with just four slots, considering the overall architecture. Still, many users run dual-channel setups with four DIMMs if they adjust the setup and make minor adjustments.