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What holds many away from moving to Linux?

What holds many away from moving to Linux?

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jxzuzuzo
Posting Freak
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05-15-2023, 01:44 AM
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This has been the last four hours after completing my PopOS installation and attempting setup for the first time. I thought it was crucial to share this journey to highlight why Linux, especially PopOS, isn’t yet suited for widespread use. To give you some background, I’m reasonably tech-savvy. I’ve worked with Fedora for professional tasks involving basic file navigation, and I ran Manjaro on my PC for about three months a few years ago before it stopped due to gaming limitations that made the switch seem unjustified. The terminal isn’t intimidating if you know where to look.

So here we are. I’m installing this on an XPS13 (the model just before the switch to 16x10). First, I handled the drive partitions, visited PopShop to update and start some applications. The OS update failed because of a 404 error with the launchpad link. After some searching, I decided to try again, focusing on getting my mouse working. I installed Piper, which helped me get my mouse functional. When I opened it, I couldn’t find ratbagd. After checking Packman and searching GitHub, I found ratbagd there. Installing it via terminal was possible, but many users would quickly revert to Windows if they saw it.

I ended up adding a repository to enable Piper to run properly with my mouse. That was frustrating. Then I needed to install Menson (though I’m not sure what that is), which required navigating through GitHub commands. It worked eventually, but I was worried most users would abandon Linux right away.

During the update process, I checked PopOS’s troubleshooting guides for their package manager. However, advanced commands didn’t help because I couldn’t locate the correct operating system updates. After about an hour of searching, I found a page suggesting the update URL might be wrong. I opened my file manager and tried editing files in the ect/apt directory, but every single folder—including Downloads and Documents—was read-only. I struggled to make any changes, even trying terminal commands like 'sudo -i' or 'Ctrl+Z'. The lack of access felt extremely frustrating.

I realized there’s no way to edit files directly from the terminal without special permissions, which is a major drawback. Even dragging and dropping files between windows didn’t help. This experience highlights how critical ease of use is for Linux adoption. If users can’t even modify basic files, they’ll avoid it entirely.

It’s disappointing that this isn’t what people expect from Linux, especially when the platform is often marketed as user-friendly. I hope this helps others understand why Linux, despite its strengths, still faces significant hurdles in gaining mass adoption. This issue needs more attention, especially since many are considering Linux for the first time.
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jxzuzuzo
05-15-2023, 01:44 AM #1

This has been the last four hours after completing my PopOS installation and attempting setup for the first time. I thought it was crucial to share this journey to highlight why Linux, especially PopOS, isn’t yet suited for widespread use. To give you some background, I’m reasonably tech-savvy. I’ve worked with Fedora for professional tasks involving basic file navigation, and I ran Manjaro on my PC for about three months a few years ago before it stopped due to gaming limitations that made the switch seem unjustified. The terminal isn’t intimidating if you know where to look.

So here we are. I’m installing this on an XPS13 (the model just before the switch to 16x10). First, I handled the drive partitions, visited PopShop to update and start some applications. The OS update failed because of a 404 error with the launchpad link. After some searching, I decided to try again, focusing on getting my mouse working. I installed Piper, which helped me get my mouse functional. When I opened it, I couldn’t find ratbagd. After checking Packman and searching GitHub, I found ratbagd there. Installing it via terminal was possible, but many users would quickly revert to Windows if they saw it.

I ended up adding a repository to enable Piper to run properly with my mouse. That was frustrating. Then I needed to install Menson (though I’m not sure what that is), which required navigating through GitHub commands. It worked eventually, but I was worried most users would abandon Linux right away.

During the update process, I checked PopOS’s troubleshooting guides for their package manager. However, advanced commands didn’t help because I couldn’t locate the correct operating system updates. After about an hour of searching, I found a page suggesting the update URL might be wrong. I opened my file manager and tried editing files in the ect/apt directory, but every single folder—including Downloads and Documents—was read-only. I struggled to make any changes, even trying terminal commands like 'sudo -i' or 'Ctrl+Z'. The lack of access felt extremely frustrating.

I realized there’s no way to edit files directly from the terminal without special permissions, which is a major drawback. Even dragging and dropping files between windows didn’t help. This experience highlights how critical ease of use is for Linux adoption. If users can’t even modify basic files, they’ll avoid it entirely.

It’s disappointing that this isn’t what people expect from Linux, especially when the platform is often marketed as user-friendly. I hope this helps others understand why Linux, despite its strengths, still faces significant hurdles in gaining mass adoption. This issue needs more attention, especially since many are considering Linux for the first time.

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Cobae
Junior Member
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05-15-2023, 10:27 PM
#2
We've actually talked about this a lot here. By the way, I'm planning to try it out soon just to see if what I already understand is accurate. It seems pretty clear that Linux isn't necessarily better than Windows. The issues people have with Windows—like its UI design, unnecessary features, and update habits—are really the main drawbacks. Linux handles everything, but it can be too complex and impractical for regular users. For most of us who aren't managing servers, this is the core problem. There are no easy fixes; the design choice is intentional, and the community leans into that approach. Personally, I don't see it working well for everyday use.
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Cobae
05-15-2023, 10:27 PM #2

We've actually talked about this a lot here. By the way, I'm planning to try it out soon just to see if what I already understand is accurate. It seems pretty clear that Linux isn't necessarily better than Windows. The issues people have with Windows—like its UI design, unnecessary features, and update habits—are really the main drawbacks. Linux handles everything, but it can be too complex and impractical for regular users. For most of us who aren't managing servers, this is the core problem. There are no easy fixes; the design choice is intentional, and the community leans into that approach. Personally, I don't see it working well for everyday use.

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Zmondy
Senior Member
405
05-19-2023, 03:57 PM
#3
It really helps me feel better. I've been trying to learn it because I see its advantages, but the issues with how difficult it is to use have been really frustrating. Since I'm not very active on forums, I thought I could just drop by and vent, but thank you for your reply.
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Zmondy
05-19-2023, 03:57 PM #3

It really helps me feel better. I've been trying to learn it because I see its advantages, but the issues with how difficult it is to use have been really frustrating. Since I'm not very active on forums, I thought I could just drop by and vent, but thank you for your reply.

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cocothecat2
Member
66
05-19-2023, 04:45 PM
#4
Your viewpoint varies based on your goals and requirements. As a developer, working with Linux offers significant advantages—easy access to tools via a console and the ability to install software directly from repositories without searching multiple sites. If you assume Linux excels in every area, you might face frustration. Clarifying what you mean by "inherent design" and "redundancies" helps too. Regarding updates, using a rolling release keeps you updated with the latest features, which benefits developers but also means no forced maintenance or unexpected reboots interrupting your workflow.
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cocothecat2
05-19-2023, 04:45 PM #4

Your viewpoint varies based on your goals and requirements. As a developer, working with Linux offers significant advantages—easy access to tools via a console and the ability to install software directly from repositories without searching multiple sites. If you assume Linux excels in every area, you might face frustration. Clarifying what you mean by "inherent design" and "redundancies" helps too. Regarding updates, using a rolling release keeps you updated with the latest features, which benefits developers but also means no forced maintenance or unexpected reboots interrupting your workflow.

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seomilk77
Member
181
05-20-2023, 12:47 AM
#5
It's accurate that certain system folders aren't easily modified through File Explorer. Using `sudo nano` along with the full directory and filename can be an effective method for editing text files. The reason the Downloads folder appears read-only might be due to permissions or configuration settings, which isn't immediately obvious.
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seomilk77
05-20-2023, 12:47 AM #5

It's accurate that certain system folders aren't easily modified through File Explorer. Using `sudo nano` along with the full directory and filename can be an effective method for editing text files. The reason the Downloads folder appears read-only might be due to permissions or configuration settings, which isn't immediately obvious.

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05-21-2023, 07:08 PM
#6
Yes, because no operating system fits everyone perfectly. Linux stands out since you’re free from being locked into any specific distribution if you prefer a different theme or another distro. On Windows and macOS people often grumble about it. If you dislike certain applications, either push developers to create a Linux version or simply skip them. Dual booting remains a viable choice. This approach feels quite common—many Linux installers include a straightforward copy-paste option. While I’d like executables that could stream this process, in practice it’s usually just about following the standard setup steps. You’re still relying on your keyboard rather than a mouse.
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X_pinkie_pie_Z
05-21-2023, 07:08 PM #6

Yes, because no operating system fits everyone perfectly. Linux stands out since you’re free from being locked into any specific distribution if you prefer a different theme or another distro. On Windows and macOS people often grumble about it. If you dislike certain applications, either push developers to create a Linux version or simply skip them. Dual booting remains a viable choice. This approach feels quite common—many Linux installers include a straightforward copy-paste option. While I’d like executables that could stream this process, in practice it’s usually just about following the standard setup steps. You’re still relying on your keyboard rather than a mouse.

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nicjohn2000
Member
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05-22-2023, 01:54 AM
#7
This functionality seems restricted to Linux. On Windows, problems often require reinstalling the software, which can happen quickly after installation. Many issues are expected not to occur, like a mouse problem that might need direct device manager intervention instead of just fixing it. The mouse should function properly in both Windows and Linux without additional steps.
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nicjohn2000
05-22-2023, 01:54 AM #7

This functionality seems restricted to Linux. On Windows, problems often require reinstalling the software, which can happen quickly after installation. Many issues are expected not to occur, like a mouse problem that might need direct device manager intervention instead of just fixing it. The mouse should function properly in both Windows and Linux without additional steps.

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PhilZstar
Member
198
05-22-2023, 10:26 AM
#8
I believe that’s the main idea I’m trying to convey. Nano is straightforward to operate, but you can’t truly confirm nano exists unless everyone acknowledges it does. Now I’m constantly having to input file paths whenever I need to make changes to system files. On Windows, I simply click folders to find files—it feels natural. When I select a file, I can usually handle most tasks without hesitation. Right-clicking provides all the necessary options for basic actions, like running it with admin privileges. Being pushed into the terminal isn’t user-friendly unless you’re familiar with it. It lacks that smooth flow, and this simplicity and instinctive feel are key reasons why Linux hasn’t captured more market share compared to Windows. Even Chrome OS has its challenges, but it excelled in ease of use and intuitive design.
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PhilZstar
05-22-2023, 10:26 AM #8

I believe that’s the main idea I’m trying to convey. Nano is straightforward to operate, but you can’t truly confirm nano exists unless everyone acknowledges it does. Now I’m constantly having to input file paths whenever I need to make changes to system files. On Windows, I simply click folders to find files—it feels natural. When I select a file, I can usually handle most tasks without hesitation. Right-clicking provides all the necessary options for basic actions, like running it with admin privileges. Being pushed into the terminal isn’t user-friendly unless you’re familiar with it. It lacks that smooth flow, and this simplicity and instinctive feel are key reasons why Linux hasn’t captured more market share compared to Windows. Even Chrome OS has its challenges, but it excelled in ease of use and intuitive design.

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Garrett_Odlam
Member
124
05-29-2023, 10:02 PM
#9
I can access files, move to /etc, and right-click a system file to choose "Edit as Administrator." This approach works for Windows system files too.
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Garrett_Odlam
05-29-2023, 10:02 PM #9

I can access files, move to /etc, and right-click a system file to choose "Edit as Administrator." This approach works for Windows system files too.

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MarcMcvey
Member
60
06-06-2023, 06:45 PM
#10
That’s not entirely accurate. On Windows, when your mouse isn’t connecting, simply visit the manufacturer’s site and most users understand the role of drivers in getting things working. Using search terms like “product” and “driver” usually resolves around 99% of issues. In Windows, if you encounter a complex mouse problem where installation fails, it often involves some manual adjustments. Working through commands in Terminal can be much more confusing than following guided settings in a graphical interface. In GUIs, you can browse menus and even if the instructions don’t fully fix your issue, they usually lead you to a solution by simply reading through them. Without deep familiarity with command syntax, it’s hard to progress unless you rely on extensive research. There’s a big difference in how quickly problems are resolved—troubleshooting isn’t exclusive to Linux, but the lack of intuitive design makes it much harder without prior knowledge. If you’re unfamiliar with bash commands or the file system structure, you might need to look up answers, join forums, or even reinstall the operating system to try a different approach. At least on Windows, you have more tools at your disposal, even if you don’t know exactly what you’re searching for.
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MarcMcvey
06-06-2023, 06:45 PM #10

That’s not entirely accurate. On Windows, when your mouse isn’t connecting, simply visit the manufacturer’s site and most users understand the role of drivers in getting things working. Using search terms like “product” and “driver” usually resolves around 99% of issues. In Windows, if you encounter a complex mouse problem where installation fails, it often involves some manual adjustments. Working through commands in Terminal can be much more confusing than following guided settings in a graphical interface. In GUIs, you can browse menus and even if the instructions don’t fully fix your issue, they usually lead you to a solution by simply reading through them. Without deep familiarity with command syntax, it’s hard to progress unless you rely on extensive research. There’s a big difference in how quickly problems are resolved—troubleshooting isn’t exclusive to Linux, but the lack of intuitive design makes it much harder without prior knowledge. If you’re unfamiliar with bash commands or the file system structure, you might need to look up answers, join forums, or even reinstall the operating system to try a different approach. At least on Windows, you have more tools at your disposal, even if you don’t know exactly what you’re searching for.

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