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Wait for 15th Gen?

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strikernx200
Junior Member
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09-03-2023, 04:19 PM
#1
So,
I need to fully refresh my PC as it's running i7 8700k with 1080ti. It's worked well for a long time, but now I'm doing SIM racing with triple 1440 and definitely have to adjust some settings!
I'm about three weeks away from having the money for a 4090 and PSU.
I know there might be a bottleneck, but at least I have the GPU to boost my settings when I save up.
The question is, does anyone have any advice on newer 15th gen chips? Maybe wait until then, or I could go with a CPU like 14700 or something similar?
Thanks.
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strikernx200
09-03-2023, 04:19 PM #1

So,
I need to fully refresh my PC as it's running i7 8700k with 1080ti. It's worked well for a long time, but now I'm doing SIM racing with triple 1440 and definitely have to adjust some settings!
I'm about three weeks away from having the money for a 4090 and PSU.
I know there might be a bottleneck, but at least I have the GPU to boost my settings when I save up.
The question is, does anyone have any advice on newer 15th gen chips? Maybe wait until then, or I could go with a CPU like 14700 or something similar?
Thanks.

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A_Piggy
Member
211
09-25-2023, 07:57 AM
#2
If you have time, wait a bit longer.
When you need it immediately, take it right away.
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A_Piggy
09-25-2023, 07:57 AM #2

If you have time, wait a bit longer.
When you need it immediately, take it right away.

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spoodkra
Member
55
09-29-2023, 08:29 AM
#3
What remains to be determined is AMD if you're starting today. LGA1700 still performs adequately at the moment. It won't suddenly cease functioning. A 14700k should keep you until Intel releases the next generation socket. If you have solid high-speed DDR4, you can pair it with an Intel processor now. Otherwise, adopting DDR5 too soon could result in slower speeds than those typically offered in a few years ahead. Similar to DDR3 or DDR4 which began at lower speeds before mainstream OEMs raised their standard to the common levels. DDR3 1600, DDR4 3200.
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spoodkra
09-29-2023, 08:29 AM #3

What remains to be determined is AMD if you're starting today. LGA1700 still performs adequately at the moment. It won't suddenly cease functioning. A 14700k should keep you until Intel releases the next generation socket. If you have solid high-speed DDR4, you can pair it with an Intel processor now. Otherwise, adopting DDR5 too soon could result in slower speeds than those typically offered in a few years ahead. Similar to DDR3 or DDR4 which began at lower speeds before mainstream OEMs raised their standard to the common levels. DDR3 1600, DDR4 3200.

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Taillowbird
Member
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10-04-2023, 03:43 AM
#4
The one benefit from always waiting for the next generation is that you spend less money (as in none).
I assume you are buying the 4090 and PSU regardless of when you upgrade the CPU/motherboard/memory. If so, those won't pair well with your older tech. Your current gear will hold the 4090 back significantly.
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Taillowbird
10-04-2023, 03:43 AM #4

The one benefit from always waiting for the next generation is that you spend less money (as in none).
I assume you are buying the 4090 and PSU regardless of when you upgrade the CPU/motherboard/memory. If so, those won't pair well with your older tech. Your current gear will hold the 4090 back significantly.

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SpiritClaws
Member
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10-06-2023, 03:42 AM
#5
I could wait.
But I know there's a few people who know alot more info than the average Joe here. And if their expertise recommend waiting for the next one, I'll wait.
Or if it's not going to be worth it for the 1st year of this next CPU type, I'll go with 14th.
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SpiritClaws
10-06-2023, 03:42 AM #5

I could wait.
But I know there's a few people who know alot more info than the average Joe here. And if their expertise recommend waiting for the next one, I'll wait.
Or if it's not going to be worth it for the 1st year of this next CPU type, I'll go with 14th.

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J1son
Member
211
10-06-2023, 04:46 AM
#6
Yes, I experience issues with a bottleneck, yet I still expect a significant performance boost, and I already have the card ready for an upgrade.
Someone recommended using an interim card such as a 4070. However, I prefer not to spend money on that right away; instead, I’d save up more for the complete PC build, which would mean selling the 4070 at a loss.
It’s only been a few months with a bottlenecked 4090, and I can manage that since the performance improvement from my current setup will likely be enough for now.
I’m not sure about past trends regarding CPU generations, but my main worry is that 14th generation is the last socket type available. That means there are no further upgrade options. If I’m stuck with a bottleneck, I could upgrade to an i9 if needed for future cards in the 50/60 series. Or, in the worst case, I might end up buying Arrowlake, which seems risky given its reputation for problems—especially since it’s supposed to be a major overhaul? (Not sure what that means.) And honestly, I’ve never followed hardware that close to understand it so well.
I just look up new gear when I need it. In the long run, my SIM rig will upgrade from triple 1440 to triple 4k.
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J1son
10-06-2023, 04:46 AM #6

Yes, I experience issues with a bottleneck, yet I still expect a significant performance boost, and I already have the card ready for an upgrade.
Someone recommended using an interim card such as a 4070. However, I prefer not to spend money on that right away; instead, I’d save up more for the complete PC build, which would mean selling the 4070 at a loss.
It’s only been a few months with a bottlenecked 4090, and I can manage that since the performance improvement from my current setup will likely be enough for now.
I’m not sure about past trends regarding CPU generations, but my main worry is that 14th generation is the last socket type available. That means there are no further upgrade options. If I’m stuck with a bottleneck, I could upgrade to an i9 if needed for future cards in the 50/60 series. Or, in the worst case, I might end up buying Arrowlake, which seems risky given its reputation for problems—especially since it’s supposed to be a major overhaul? (Not sure what that means.) And honestly, I’ve never followed hardware that close to understand it so well.
I just look up new gear when I need it. In the long run, my SIM rig will upgrade from triple 1440 to triple 4k.

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purplebelt4
Member
61
10-08-2023, 12:08 AM
#7
The value of "Worth it" depends on expectations about the improvements in the 15th gen and the expected price. The release date remains uncertain, possibly falling in autumn 2024 or later. While you can seek information from Google for predictions, it's essentially speculation. For your situation, the potential gain might range from 4 to 14 percent or more—whether that justifies the wait depends on your perspective. You have limited options but can either hold out for clearer data or act sooner if necessary.
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purplebelt4
10-08-2023, 12:08 AM #7

The value of "Worth it" depends on expectations about the improvements in the 15th gen and the expected price. The release date remains uncertain, possibly falling in autumn 2024 or later. While you can seek information from Google for predictions, it's essentially speculation. For your situation, the potential gain might range from 4 to 14 percent or more—whether that justifies the wait depends on your perspective. You have limited options but can either hold out for clearer data or act sooner if necessary.

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rektyourmom21
Member
226
10-08-2023, 12:26 AM
#8
I really took a look at AMD this time, impressed by what they offer and the value for the price. All the benchmarks supported AMD.
However, the only factor that leaned me toward Intel was the video and photo editing I do. It probably doesn’t matter much, but I’d also be streaming or capturing a lot once everything is set up.
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rektyourmom21
10-08-2023, 12:26 AM #8

I really took a look at AMD this time, impressed by what they offer and the value for the price. All the benchmarks supported AMD.
However, the only factor that leaned me toward Intel was the video and photo editing I do. It probably doesn’t matter much, but I’d also be streaming or capturing a lot once everything is set up.

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skylarkowl
Junior Member
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10-18-2023, 06:40 PM
#9
I did look around this week, with not alot of difference apart from speculation from about 4 months ago, which we know is complete click bait/speculation.
Maybe I should look I to it more when I've got the funds to purchase the rest of the PC, and see what more reliable info is out then before pulling the trigger.
I overthink everything I do too much! Sometimes a little bit of info can be too much 😂
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skylarkowl
10-18-2023, 06:40 PM #9

I did look around this week, with not alot of difference apart from speculation from about 4 months ago, which we know is complete click bait/speculation.
Maybe I should look I to it more when I've got the funds to purchase the rest of the PC, and see what more reliable info is out then before pulling the trigger.
I overthink everything I do too much! Sometimes a little bit of info can be too much 😂

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CoconutSlayer
Member
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10-26-2023, 10:40 AM
#10
Good idea. I certainly would try to buy parts all at once when the money is in hand, rather than spread out over months. You could end up with DOA motherboard or RAM sitting on the shelf, undiagnosed.
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CoconutSlayer
10-26-2023, 10:40 AM #10

Good idea. I certainly would try to buy parts all at once when the money is in hand, rather than spread out over months. You could end up with DOA motherboard or RAM sitting on the shelf, undiagnosed.

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