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Virtualization performance AMD vs Intel

Virtualization performance AMD vs Intel

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zSeeKs
Junior Member
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06-23-2016, 04:52 PM
#1
Hey everyone, I've been thinking about switching to Linux for a while now. But since video editing and gaming are big parts of my routine, I've stuck with Windows. I've been exploring virtualization with DirectX, though the 4770K didn't support vt-d, which made it difficult. Thanks to a new job, I'll have the chance to upgrade my system soon and would appreciate some guidance. This seems more suited to the CPU area, but I think it's a topic that could benefit from more experience-based advice. For my new setup, I'm considering either an AMD or Intel machine. Budget isn't the main issue, but I want to minimize expenses, so I'm leaning toward the Threadripper 2970 WX and Intel i9-7980XE. I'm planning to run Linux Mint with 8 cores and 16 threads, while dedicating the remaining resources to a Windows VM for gaming, Adobe, and Office if I choose AMD. For Linux, I'd go with 4c8t, and for Windows, 14c28t. Regarding the graphics, I'm planning to get the latest high-end Nvidia card soon. AMD is my top choice because of its higher core count and lower price, but I'm concerned about potential GPU performance issues with AMD. If that happens, I might have to stick with Intel instead. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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zSeeKs
06-23-2016, 04:52 PM #1

Hey everyone, I've been thinking about switching to Linux for a while now. But since video editing and gaming are big parts of my routine, I've stuck with Windows. I've been exploring virtualization with DirectX, though the 4770K didn't support vt-d, which made it difficult. Thanks to a new job, I'll have the chance to upgrade my system soon and would appreciate some guidance. This seems more suited to the CPU area, but I think it's a topic that could benefit from more experience-based advice. For my new setup, I'm considering either an AMD or Intel machine. Budget isn't the main issue, but I want to minimize expenses, so I'm leaning toward the Threadripper 2970 WX and Intel i9-7980XE. I'm planning to run Linux Mint with 8 cores and 16 threads, while dedicating the remaining resources to a Windows VM for gaming, Adobe, and Office if I choose AMD. For Linux, I'd go with 4c8t, and for Windows, 14c28t. Regarding the graphics, I'm planning to get the latest high-end Nvidia card soon. AMD is my top choice because of its higher core count and lower price, but I'm concerned about potential GPU performance issues with AMD. If that happens, I might have to stick with Intel instead. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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BeagaPro
Member
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06-30-2016, 05:37 AM
#2
You can exchange cores, so I’ll provide access to all cores for full performance. Passthrough has improved significantly on Threadripper, but I’ll hold off on the Threadripper 2 reviews just yet. Also, check video editing reviews—Intel might be quick for your preferred software.
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BeagaPro
06-30-2016, 05:37 AM #2

You can exchange cores, so I’ll provide access to all cores for full performance. Passthrough has improved significantly on Threadripper, but I’ll hold off on the Threadripper 2 reviews just yet. Also, check video editing reviews—Intel might be quick for your preferred software.

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GreeenBear
Member
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06-30-2016, 07:22 AM
#3
TR2 stands out as the superior option when compared to existing and upcoming Intel products. It offers both strong performance and competitive pricing.
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GreeenBear
06-30-2016, 07:22 AM #3

TR2 stands out as the superior option when compared to existing and upcoming Intel products. It offers both strong performance and competitive pricing.

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xSneik
Member
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06-30-2016, 10:28 AM
#4
Def. TR2! Based on cost, speed (more cores matter) and upgrade options, efficiency is higher on TR2 compared to other models.
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xSneik
06-30-2016, 10:28 AM #4

Def. TR2! Based on cost, speed (more cores matter) and upgrade options, efficiency is higher on TR2 compared to other models.

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kahruu
Member
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07-20-2016, 01:29 AM
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You're right, hadn't even though of that I guess then the earlier mentioned divide is what I envision if both systems were maxing out. Good to hear passthrough has been getting better, how large would you say the fps hit in percentages is right now in gpu-dependent game? My workflow primarily uses Premiere Pro, After Effects and Photoshop. From what I've seen TR is about even compared to the next up Intel offering so I imagine the same counts for TR2, if they haven't closed the gap even further. Thanks, yeah that's what I figured. I was just worried about an overhead hit on the GPU passthrough
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kahruu
07-20-2016, 01:29 AM #5

You're right, hadn't even though of that I guess then the earlier mentioned divide is what I envision if both systems were maxing out. Good to hear passthrough has been getting better, how large would you say the fps hit in percentages is right now in gpu-dependent game? My workflow primarily uses Premiere Pro, After Effects and Photoshop. From what I've seen TR is about even compared to the next up Intel offering so I imagine the same counts for TR2, if they haven't closed the gap even further. Thanks, yeah that's what I figured. I was just worried about an overhead hit on the GPU passthrough

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Sharkbite1304
Member
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07-22-2016, 01:49 AM
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Typically performance drops by about 5% or less when you allocate full resources. These often become significantly quicker on Intel because of better single-threaded speed and reduced latency, see Puget reviews.
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Sharkbite1304
07-22-2016, 01:49 AM #6

Typically performance drops by about 5% or less when you allocate full resources. These often become significantly quicker on Intel because of better single-threaded speed and reduced latency, see Puget reviews.

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3xp
Junior Member
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07-22-2016, 01:33 PM
#7
Wait for some tests to come out (Level1tech usually test this). Threadripper was a shit-show for virtualization for the longest time. Not sure if it is fixed completly yet either. Virtualization on x299 is more or less plug and play, though now that theres meltdown and spectre to think about... again wait for tests.
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3xp
07-22-2016, 01:33 PM #7

Wait for some tests to come out (Level1tech usually test this). Threadripper was a shit-show for virtualization for the longest time. Not sure if it is fixed completly yet either. Virtualization on x299 is more or less plug and play, though now that theres meltdown and spectre to think about... again wait for tests.