Upgrading memory to a new RAM module in an older, possibly unstable, Gen 1 Ryzen system
Upgrading memory to a new RAM module in an older, possibly unstable, Gen 1 Ryzen system
I've gathered details about the build and parts used. A trade from a friend provided the Corsair Vengeance Pro RAM, which worked at default speeds despite DOCP/XMP issues. The goal is to find the optimal RAM for an 1700X + X370 setup, aiming for around 3000–3200 MHz. I'm avoiding Corsair options and looking for reliable performance in older Ryzen systems.
Vengeance and early Ryzen models have encountered issues with running XMP profiles. It depends on whether the memory controller accepts it. For first-generation Ryzen, you'll face a significant limit around 2666-2733 with memory speeds, constrained by the chip's capabilities. A strong or G.skill solution targeting speeds of 2666-2866 and optimal timing is advised.
The first generation Ryzen chips don’t actually offer a 3000MT/s speed, so you’ll likely be getting either 3200MT/s or 2933MT/s. Most recent BIOS versions let most boards reach 2933MT/s, but whether you hit 3200MT/s depends on chance. I’ve experienced solid performance with my first-gen units—the four I’ve used all ran smoothly at 3200MT/s CL14, which is unusual. The best compatibility options for these chips are A2-based B die kits such as 3200CL14, 3600CL17, 4000CL17, etc., though only 3200CL14 has an XMP profile that should work well. Other kits won’t support 3200CL14 reliably. The drawback is their high cost (around $100 for a 2x8GB package), making them impractical for a system six years old. Finding used 16GB kits at reasonable prices is tough, but I’ve found 32GB B die kits for about $80 on sites like FB Marketplace. If you need a decent deal, go with the cheapest available and accept the risks—3200MT/s is probably your outcome, and you can always adjust speed or return if it doesn’t boot properly. Generally, spending extra on a good RAM upgrade isn’t worth it.
Pick up a pack of these and you're done. They perform well with your current setup and fit newer Ryzen configurations too. G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 / B350 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX - available on Newegg.com
The suggestion is to stick with 2666-3200 MHz kits and focus on reliability over maximum speed. Clearing CMOS before installation helps ensure a proper boot. A generic kit should work at its default 2133 MHz, allowing you to later apply DOCP/XMP profiles. If needed, I’ll check the Troubleshooting thread with my name. The price is a concern, so I’m looking for more affordable options. The other replies recommended 3200 MHz kits, but your mention of a cap at 2733 might relate to using all four DIMM slots—let me know if that’s the case.
The first-gen Ryzen's Integrated Memory Controller isn't as powerful as the later 3000 and 5000 lines. I recall assisting a friend with his Ryzen 1700X + X370 setup. XMP DDR4-3000 didn't function properly, even with two 8GB modules. It only worked at 2933 MHz using two sticks, and we had to lower it to 2666 or 2400 with four sticks. Adding more RAM increases load on the IMC, reducing its speed. Unless you have a very specific test case, I doubt DDR4-2933+ will work without boosting voltage or changing memory timings.
You're adjusting your expectations wisely after starting with a newer Ryzen. It's normal to feel confident about upgrading RAM speeds now. Consider sourcing a used 3000 or 3200 MHz unit for budget-friendly testing, aiming close to 3200 MHz. This approach will help you understand the performance potential and familiarize yourself with the system setup.
Absolutely aligns with what others have shared. It’s reassuring knowing you’re targeting 2x8GB. For the timing question, it makes sense to tweak manually on a 3200 MHz system. I’m considering switching away from Corsair RAM and opting for Crucial 3200 8GB sticks from Offerup for $50. The details are listed here: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Desktop Memory on Newegg, but the seller is open to selling it for $50. Regarding the XMP profile, I’m aware that 1st generation Ryzen chips won’t support it at 3200 MHz, so manual timing adjustments might be necessary. If you’re comfortable making those changes, it seems straightforward, but I want to know if any hidden issues could complicate things.