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SourisCraft
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02-27-2022, 07:51 PM
#11
If you're not utilizing all the available memory, the only consequence will be a reduction in your wallet.
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SourisCraft
02-27-2022, 07:51 PM #11

If you're not utilizing all the available memory, the only consequence will be a reduction in your wallet.

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trincat11
Member
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03-01-2022, 07:23 AM
#12
When working with large files in Photoshop, the additional RAM might actually be advantageous. In Photoshop, the scratch disk is commonly referred to as being written to memory, and it only becomes a bottleneck during intensive operations when it needs to access the system drive. Today, the performance of SSDs far surpasses that of traditional mechanical drives, making the extra RAM largely unnecessary unless you're using the software for income generation. In short, time equals money.
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trincat11
03-01-2022, 07:23 AM #12

When working with large files in Photoshop, the additional RAM might actually be advantageous. In Photoshop, the scratch disk is commonly referred to as being written to memory, and it only becomes a bottleneck during intensive operations when it needs to access the system drive. Today, the performance of SSDs far surpasses that of traditional mechanical drives, making the extra RAM largely unnecessary unless you're using the software for income generation. In short, time equals money.

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JuliBr0
Senior Member
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03-01-2022, 10:11 AM
#13
Lil bit of research later:
3600mhz is kinda the limit on this board got some witter about it being hard to get stable which is why it's advertised at 3533mhz because XMP is technically overclocking and not guaranteed to work by AMD since there's quality ishes in what they call 'the silicon lottery' so, the qvl for this board is conservatively spec'ed.
3600MHz 4x16GB Dual Rank Memory Kits for ASRock B450 Steel Legend:
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Kit
Capacity/Speed/Timings
Dual Rank?
Price (GBP)
QVL/Compatibility
Why Plug-and-Play
G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C18Q-64GVK
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£140-155
Partial QVL (similar Ripjaws tested at 3600MHz); Ryzen 5000 users report 95% stable XMP on B450.
Samsung B-die ICs—easy XMP boot at 3600MHz, no voltage tweaks (1.35V default). Enable XMP, test 30 mins with MemTest86. Widely recommended for Ryzen 4-DIMM configs.
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK64GX4M4E3600C18
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£135-150
QVL (CMK64GX4M4 variants); stable on B450/Vermeer with XMP.
Micron ICs, low-profile for coolers. Plug into A2/B2/D2/E2, XMP loads 3600MHz. Ryzen-optimized profile, ~90% success rate per Reddit/Amazon reviews.
Kingston Fury Beast KF436C18BBK4/64
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£130-145
QVL (KF436C18BBK4 variants); Ryzen 5000 3600MHz stable with XMP.
Hynix CJR ICs—plug-and-play king for Ryzen (AMD-endorsed). XMP boots reliably; minimal testing needed. Best for no-fuss users—conservative timings avoid crashes.
3200mhz kits for it:​
Kit
Capacity/Speed/Timings
Dual Rank?
Price (GBP, Oct 2025)
QVL/Compatibility Notes
Benefits for User
Timetec Pinnacle Konduit RGB
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (2Rx8 dual rank)
£100-120
QVL for B450 Steel Legend; Ryzen 5000 tested. Stable at 3200MHz XMP.
Bandwidth boost for Photoshop 4K/8K (rank interleaving), RGB if wanted.
G.Skill Ripjaws V
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank on 16GB DIMMs)
£110-130
Partial QVL (similar kits tested); Ryzen 5000 users report 3600MHz OC stable.
Tight timings for gaming (ACC sim racing); interleaving for Photoshop hangs.
Corsair Vengeance LPX
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank)
£120-140
QVL for B450; Ryzen 5000 compatible, easy XMP to 3533/3600MHz.
Low-profile for coolers; interleaving reduces Photoshop save lags.
Kingston Fury Beast
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank)
£115-135
QVL listed (Kingston KF432C16BBK4/64 variant); Ryzen 5000 OC to 3600MHz common.
Plug-and-play XMP; good for 1:1 FCLK on 5700X.
it's generally correct to say that a 3200MHz kit can offer lower latency (if timings are tight, e.g., CL14-16) but lower bandwidth compared to a 3600MHz kit, which provides higher bandwidth but potentially higher latency (if timings are looser, e.g., CL18). For your Ryzen 7 5700X on the ASRock B450 Steel Legend, here's a breakdown based on benchmarks for Photoshop (4K/8K editing) and Assetto Corsa Competizione (ACC sim racing at 4K on 3 screens). I'll compare to your current 32GB 3466MT/s OC kit (assuming CL16-18 based on common Crucial specs).
3200MHz vs 3600MHz: Latency and Bandwidth Basics​
3200MHz
: Lower effective latency if timings are optimized (e.g., CL14 = ~8.75ns, CL16 = ~10ns). Bandwidth ~40-50GB/s on Ryzen 5000 (dual-channel, dual rank). Good for latency-sensitive tasks but caps throughput.
3600MHz
: Higher bandwidth (~50-60GB/s), but latency might be 5-10% higher if timings are loose (e.g., CL18 = ~10ns, CL16 = ~8.89ns). Sweet spot for Ryzen 5000 due to 1:1 FCLK ratio (1800MHz), boosting overall perf 5-15% over 3200MHz. 3600MHz loose timings often beat 3200MHz tight timings by 5-10% in real workloads.
Photoshop (4K/8K Editing)
: Bandwidth is key for large files (scratch disk streaming, layer rendering). 3600MHz gives 10-20% faster saves/conversions over 3200MHz, reducing hangs ~15-30% if RAM-bound (e.g., Puget Systems tests on Ryzen 5000 show higher speed = better 8K perf). Latency has minor impact (~2-5% difference) since Photoshop is more throughput-heavy. Vs. your current 3466MT/s OC (likely ~50-55GB/s bandwidth), 3600MHz is a ~5-10% gain, 3200MHz a ~5% loss.
ACC (Assetto Corsa Competizione)
: Bandwidth helps AI/physics at 4K 3-screens (~2-5% FPS gain at 3600MHz vs. 3200MHz), but latency matters for input/response (e.g., steering feel). 3200MHz tight timings (CL14) could tie or beat 3600MHz loose timings (CL18) by 1-3% in latency-sensitive racing. Vs. your current 3466MT/s, 3600MHz might add 1-3% FPS, 3200MHz drop 1-2%—but ACC is GPU-bound (3060 12GB at 4K) more than RAM-bound (~8-12GB usage). No major "hit" from 3600MHz latency; overall net gain.
Overall Recommendation
: Go 3600MHz for bandwidth gains in Photoshop (10-20% faster on large files) and neutral/slight edge in ACC. Your current 3466MT/s OC is close to 3600MHz (~2-5% slower), so if usage <25GB in Task Manager, optimize current kit (Purge All in Photoshop, 80% RAM allocation).
4x16GB Dual Rank: Benefits and Drawbacks​
Yes, 4x16GB dual rank enables rank interleaving (data alternated across ranks for bandwidth), but for your 5700X and workloads:
Benefits for Photoshop
: ~5-10% bandwidth gain (~55-60GB/s vs. 2x32GB's ~50GB/s), reducing hangs ~5-10% on 4K/8K saves (scratch disk streaming). Great if RAM-bound.
For ACC
: Bandwidth helps AI/physics (~1-3% FPS gain), but latency penalty (~5-10ns) could hit 1-3% in input-sensitive racing (steering feel). Net: Minor hit vs. current kit, but not "bad."
Drawbacks
: IMC stress on 4 DIMMs makes OC harder (3600MHz may need CL18 vs. CL16 on 2 DIMMs), with ~1-5% perf loss in latency-sensitive games like ACC. For balanced workloads, 2x32GB is better (easier IMC, no hit). If Photoshop hangs are RAM-bound, either config helps; 4x16GB edges bandwidth, but 2x32GB is safer
Workload
3200MHz (Tight Timings)
3600MHz (Loose Timings)
4x16GB Dual Rank Impact (vs. 2x32GB)
Photoshop 4K/8K
Lower latency (5-10% faster saves if tight CL14), but lower bandwidth (~40-50GB/s) = ~5-10% slower on large files.
Higher bandwidth (~50-60GB/s) = 10-20% faster saves/conversions; latency hit minimal (~5%).
+5-10% bandwidth for edits (~5-10% less hangs), no major latency hit.
ACC Sim Racing (4K 3-Screens)
Lower latency = slight edge (1-3% smoother input), but lower bandwidth = ~1-2% FPS loss.
Higher bandwidth = ~2-5% FPS gain; latency hit ~1-3% on steering feel.
+1-3% FPS from bandwidth, but 1-3% hit from latency in input (net neutral/slight loss).
What I thought - you're fighting the trade off between hi bandwidth for productivity and low latency for gaming. 3200mhz will be kinder to your wallet but not optimal for photoshopping while 3600mhz 'plug and pray' is 90% success rate rather than 100% because it's tricky to get that 4x16 configuration going at cas 16 so, not getting as much clarity as I'd like on whether a 3600mhz kit will simply plug and pray without massaging the timings - since the last thing you want is to be spending hours tweaking timings only for it to crap out or bsod,
Recommendation
: Stick with 32GB if RAM usage <25GB—optimize Photoshop (Edit > Purge > All, 80% RAM in Preferences, M.2 scratch disk). If >28GB, get Kingston Fury Beast 4x16GB 3600MHz CL18 (KF436C18BBK4/64, QVL, ~£130 Amazon UK). Install in A2/B2/D2/E2, enable XMP, test. It’s not 100% plug-and-pray (4 DIMMs stress IMC), but close. 2x32GB is safer if you hate testing.
Check
: Monitor RAM usage during hangs. If <25GB, current kit’s fine—tweak Photoshop.
Some more refinement is poss here : Please also state your current FULL memory part number, readable in
hwinfo
,
cpu-z
or aida 64, can fetch 2x32gb kit candidates if you prefer to play it safe. The point of the exercise is to sound out what IMPROVEMENT is possible. cheers.
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JuliBr0
03-01-2022, 10:11 AM #13

Lil bit of research later:
3600mhz is kinda the limit on this board got some witter about it being hard to get stable which is why it's advertised at 3533mhz because XMP is technically overclocking and not guaranteed to work by AMD since there's quality ishes in what they call 'the silicon lottery' so, the qvl for this board is conservatively spec'ed.
3600MHz 4x16GB Dual Rank Memory Kits for ASRock B450 Steel Legend:
​
Kit
Capacity/Speed/Timings
Dual Rank?
Price (GBP)
QVL/Compatibility
Why Plug-and-Play
G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C18Q-64GVK
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£140-155
Partial QVL (similar Ripjaws tested at 3600MHz); Ryzen 5000 users report 95% stable XMP on B450.
Samsung B-die ICs—easy XMP boot at 3600MHz, no voltage tweaks (1.35V default). Enable XMP, test 30 mins with MemTest86. Widely recommended for Ryzen 4-DIMM configs.
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK64GX4M4E3600C18
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£135-150
QVL (CMK64GX4M4 variants); stable on B450/Vermeer with XMP.
Micron ICs, low-profile for coolers. Plug into A2/B2/D2/E2, XMP loads 3600MHz. Ryzen-optimized profile, ~90% success rate per Reddit/Amazon reviews.
Kingston Fury Beast KF436C18BBK4/64
64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz CL18-22-22-42
Yes (2Rx8)
£130-145
QVL (KF436C18BBK4 variants); Ryzen 5000 3600MHz stable with XMP.
Hynix CJR ICs—plug-and-play king for Ryzen (AMD-endorsed). XMP boots reliably; minimal testing needed. Best for no-fuss users—conservative timings avoid crashes.
3200mhz kits for it:​
Kit
Capacity/Speed/Timings
Dual Rank?
Price (GBP, Oct 2025)
QVL/Compatibility Notes
Benefits for User
Timetec Pinnacle Konduit RGB
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (2Rx8 dual rank)
£100-120
QVL for B450 Steel Legend; Ryzen 5000 tested. Stable at 3200MHz XMP.
Bandwidth boost for Photoshop 4K/8K (rank interleaving), RGB if wanted.
G.Skill Ripjaws V
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank on 16GB DIMMs)
£110-130
Partial QVL (similar kits tested); Ryzen 5000 users report 3600MHz OC stable.
Tight timings for gaming (ACC sim racing); interleaving for Photoshop hangs.
Corsair Vengeance LPX
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank)
£120-140
QVL for B450; Ryzen 5000 compatible, easy XMP to 3533/3600MHz.
Low-profile for coolers; interleaving reduces Photoshop save lags.
Kingston Fury Beast
64GB (4x16GB) 3200MHz CL16
Yes (dual rank)
£115-135
QVL listed (Kingston KF432C16BBK4/64 variant); Ryzen 5000 OC to 3600MHz common.
Plug-and-play XMP; good for 1:1 FCLK on 5700X.
it's generally correct to say that a 3200MHz kit can offer lower latency (if timings are tight, e.g., CL14-16) but lower bandwidth compared to a 3600MHz kit, which provides higher bandwidth but potentially higher latency (if timings are looser, e.g., CL18). For your Ryzen 7 5700X on the ASRock B450 Steel Legend, here's a breakdown based on benchmarks for Photoshop (4K/8K editing) and Assetto Corsa Competizione (ACC sim racing at 4K on 3 screens). I'll compare to your current 32GB 3466MT/s OC kit (assuming CL16-18 based on common Crucial specs).
3200MHz vs 3600MHz: Latency and Bandwidth Basics​
3200MHz
: Lower effective latency if timings are optimized (e.g., CL14 = ~8.75ns, CL16 = ~10ns). Bandwidth ~40-50GB/s on Ryzen 5000 (dual-channel, dual rank). Good for latency-sensitive tasks but caps throughput.
3600MHz
: Higher bandwidth (~50-60GB/s), but latency might be 5-10% higher if timings are loose (e.g., CL18 = ~10ns, CL16 = ~8.89ns). Sweet spot for Ryzen 5000 due to 1:1 FCLK ratio (1800MHz), boosting overall perf 5-15% over 3200MHz. 3600MHz loose timings often beat 3200MHz tight timings by 5-10% in real workloads.
Photoshop (4K/8K Editing)
: Bandwidth is key for large files (scratch disk streaming, layer rendering). 3600MHz gives 10-20% faster saves/conversions over 3200MHz, reducing hangs ~15-30% if RAM-bound (e.g., Puget Systems tests on Ryzen 5000 show higher speed = better 8K perf). Latency has minor impact (~2-5% difference) since Photoshop is more throughput-heavy. Vs. your current 3466MT/s OC (likely ~50-55GB/s bandwidth), 3600MHz is a ~5-10% gain, 3200MHz a ~5% loss.
ACC (Assetto Corsa Competizione)
: Bandwidth helps AI/physics at 4K 3-screens (~2-5% FPS gain at 3600MHz vs. 3200MHz), but latency matters for input/response (e.g., steering feel). 3200MHz tight timings (CL14) could tie or beat 3600MHz loose timings (CL18) by 1-3% in latency-sensitive racing. Vs. your current 3466MT/s, 3600MHz might add 1-3% FPS, 3200MHz drop 1-2%—but ACC is GPU-bound (3060 12GB at 4K) more than RAM-bound (~8-12GB usage). No major "hit" from 3600MHz latency; overall net gain.
Overall Recommendation
: Go 3600MHz for bandwidth gains in Photoshop (10-20% faster on large files) and neutral/slight edge in ACC. Your current 3466MT/s OC is close to 3600MHz (~2-5% slower), so if usage <25GB in Task Manager, optimize current kit (Purge All in Photoshop, 80% RAM allocation).
4x16GB Dual Rank: Benefits and Drawbacks​
Yes, 4x16GB dual rank enables rank interleaving (data alternated across ranks for bandwidth), but for your 5700X and workloads:
Benefits for Photoshop
: ~5-10% bandwidth gain (~55-60GB/s vs. 2x32GB's ~50GB/s), reducing hangs ~5-10% on 4K/8K saves (scratch disk streaming). Great if RAM-bound.
For ACC
: Bandwidth helps AI/physics (~1-3% FPS gain), but latency penalty (~5-10ns) could hit 1-3% in input-sensitive racing (steering feel). Net: Minor hit vs. current kit, but not "bad."
Drawbacks
: IMC stress on 4 DIMMs makes OC harder (3600MHz may need CL18 vs. CL16 on 2 DIMMs), with ~1-5% perf loss in latency-sensitive games like ACC. For balanced workloads, 2x32GB is better (easier IMC, no hit). If Photoshop hangs are RAM-bound, either config helps; 4x16GB edges bandwidth, but 2x32GB is safer
Workload
3200MHz (Tight Timings)
3600MHz (Loose Timings)
4x16GB Dual Rank Impact (vs. 2x32GB)
Photoshop 4K/8K
Lower latency (5-10% faster saves if tight CL14), but lower bandwidth (~40-50GB/s) = ~5-10% slower on large files.
Higher bandwidth (~50-60GB/s) = 10-20% faster saves/conversions; latency hit minimal (~5%).
+5-10% bandwidth for edits (~5-10% less hangs), no major latency hit.
ACC Sim Racing (4K 3-Screens)
Lower latency = slight edge (1-3% smoother input), but lower bandwidth = ~1-2% FPS loss.
Higher bandwidth = ~2-5% FPS gain; latency hit ~1-3% on steering feel.
+1-3% FPS from bandwidth, but 1-3% hit from latency in input (net neutral/slight loss).
What I thought - you're fighting the trade off between hi bandwidth for productivity and low latency for gaming. 3200mhz will be kinder to your wallet but not optimal for photoshopping while 3600mhz 'plug and pray' is 90% success rate rather than 100% because it's tricky to get that 4x16 configuration going at cas 16 so, not getting as much clarity as I'd like on whether a 3600mhz kit will simply plug and pray without massaging the timings - since the last thing you want is to be spending hours tweaking timings only for it to crap out or bsod,
Recommendation
: Stick with 32GB if RAM usage <25GB—optimize Photoshop (Edit > Purge > All, 80% RAM in Preferences, M.2 scratch disk). If >28GB, get Kingston Fury Beast 4x16GB 3600MHz CL18 (KF436C18BBK4/64, QVL, ~£130 Amazon UK). Install in A2/B2/D2/E2, enable XMP, test. It’s not 100% plug-and-pray (4 DIMMs stress IMC), but close. 2x32GB is safer if you hate testing.
Check
: Monitor RAM usage during hangs. If <25GB, current kit’s fine—tweak Photoshop.
Some more refinement is poss here : Please also state your current FULL memory part number, readable in
hwinfo
,
cpu-z
or aida 64, can fetch 2x32gb kit candidates if you prefer to play it safe. The point of the exercise is to sound out what IMPROVEMENT is possible. cheers.

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