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Neidro
Senior Member
453
06-02-2020, 01:24 AM
#1
I'm improving my B550 setup from two years ago and don't plan to switch to AM5. I'm considering the 5800XRD for its top gaming performance, but I've noticed it's around $30-50 less than the 5900X. Is the difference in performance worth the extra cost? Also, have I heard any problems with USB or stability on the 5800XRD?
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Neidro
06-02-2020, 01:24 AM #1

I'm improving my B550 setup from two years ago and don't plan to switch to AM5. I'm considering the 5800XRD for its top gaming performance, but I've noticed it's around $30-50 less than the 5900X. Is the difference in performance worth the extra cost? Also, have I heard any problems with USB or stability on the 5800XRD?

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FurryFox0202
Member
198
06-02-2020, 12:38 PM
#2
Looking for high-end performance? The 5800X3D works great on an X370 motherboard with no problems. For even more power, the 5900X is also a solid option.
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FurryFox0202
06-02-2020, 12:38 PM #2

Looking for high-end performance? The 5800X3D works great on an X370 motherboard with no problems. For even more power, the 5900X is also a solid option.

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Shade2OGamer
Junior Member
39
06-10-2020, 05:54 AM
#3
I don't have much to say about USB issues, but regarding performance: The X3D chip runs about 10% quicker in games compared to the 5900X. The 5900X might show a bit more aging than the 5800X3D because it uses two core clusters (CCD) that add latency each time they need data from one another. When a game requires more than 6 cores or 12 threads, you start noticing this delay with the 5900X. Also, the 5800X3D is significantly more power-efficient since the 5900X uses the least efficient chips among them.
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Shade2OGamer
06-10-2020, 05:54 AM #3

I don't have much to say about USB issues, but regarding performance: The X3D chip runs about 10% quicker in games compared to the 5900X. The 5900X might show a bit more aging than the 5800X3D because it uses two core clusters (CCD) that add latency each time they need data from one another. When a game requires more than 6 cores or 12 threads, you start noticing this delay with the 5900X. Also, the 5800X3D is significantly more power-efficient since the 5900X uses the least efficient chips among them.

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Redstoner137
Posting Freak
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06-12-2020, 04:52 AM
#4
I haven't encountered any specific problems with the 5800X3D regarding USB devices or stability beyond the general issues reported for Ryzen processors. For gaming performance, the 5800X3D offers a 20-40% boost over the 5900X when CPU constraints are present. In terms of multicore productivity tasks, the 5900X provides a 20-40% improvement over the 5800X3D. Ultimately, it depends on your priorities. If gaming is your main goal, the 5800X3D is preferable—it's quicker now and should outperform the 5900X in that area. For coding, compression, 3D modeling, video editing, or other intensive productivity work, the 5900X tends to be more suitable. There are a few cache-dependent code compilation scenarios where the 5800X3D can slightly surpass it, though these are less common.
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Redstoner137
06-12-2020, 04:52 AM #4

I haven't encountered any specific problems with the 5800X3D regarding USB devices or stability beyond the general issues reported for Ryzen processors. For gaming performance, the 5800X3D offers a 20-40% boost over the 5900X when CPU constraints are present. In terms of multicore productivity tasks, the 5900X provides a 20-40% improvement over the 5800X3D. Ultimately, it depends on your priorities. If gaming is your main goal, the 5800X3D is preferable—it's quicker now and should outperform the 5900X in that area. For coding, compression, 3D modeling, video editing, or other intensive productivity work, the 5900X tends to be more suitable. There are a few cache-dependent code compilation scenarios where the 5800X3D can slightly surpass it, though these are less common.

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thehappy84
Senior Member
594
06-12-2020, 05:57 AM
#5
5800X3D is performing well as expected. The AM4 model had USB and SATA problems initially, but those were resolved promptly after release.
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thehappy84
06-12-2020, 05:57 AM #5

5800X3D is performing well as expected. The AM4 model had USB and SATA problems initially, but those were resolved promptly after release.

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ghostlydigger
Senior Member
500
06-12-2020, 08:41 AM
#6
You should aim for a power supply that matches or exceeds the requirements of the chips you plan to use. Since you're unsure, it's best to choose a PSU rated at least 10-20% higher than the total power draw to ensure reliability.
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ghostlydigger
06-12-2020, 08:41 AM #6

You should aim for a power supply that matches or exceeds the requirements of the chips you plan to use. Since you're unsure, it's best to choose a PSU rated at least 10-20% higher than the total power draw to ensure reliability.

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_Coop56_
Junior Member
16
07-04-2020, 02:12 AM
#7
Unless you have an RTX 3090 or 4090, or your 650W power supply is completely inadequate, I don't understand why a 650W PSU wouldn't suffice—particularly for the 5800X3D. What CPU and graphics card are you using? Also, what model of PSU do you have?
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_Coop56_
07-04-2020, 02:12 AM #7

Unless you have an RTX 3090 or 4090, or your 650W power supply is completely inadequate, I don't understand why a 650W PSU wouldn't suffice—particularly for the 5800X3D. What CPU and graphics card are you using? Also, what model of PSU do you have?

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KRC4267
Member
69
07-08-2020, 11:44 PM
#8
They mentioned how the boosts varied across cores and cores, noting the performance differences when using PBO tuning. At base price it wasn't great, but it was straightforward to manage heat. It seems someone with more experience would fit better in a higher-end model.
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KRC4267
07-08-2020, 11:44 PM #8

They mentioned how the boosts varied across cores and cores, noting the performance differences when using PBO tuning. At base price it wasn't great, but it was straightforward to manage heat. It seems someone with more experience would fit better in a higher-end model.

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AriaBlaze1
Member
126
07-15-2020, 08:43 AM
#9
The issue lies in ensuring compatibility across all devices, which increases variability for certain chips. That’s why the performance differences are so pronounced. The 5950X performs much better, which is great. I’m happy you received a solid sample! Everyone agrees on that point. Unless they reveal their true background as software developers or similar roles.
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AriaBlaze1
07-15-2020, 08:43 AM #9

The issue lies in ensuring compatibility across all devices, which increases variability for certain chips. That’s why the performance differences are so pronounced. The 5950X performs much better, which is great. I’m happy you received a solid sample! Everyone agrees on that point. Unless they reveal their true background as software developers or similar roles.

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Selo_Uzumaki
Member
148
07-18-2020, 06:41 AM
#10
You felt the 143-watt stock cap was a bit disappointing. Even at the boosted level of 4950 watts, the chip performs better with higher power. Regarding your sample... I purchased it around three years ago for $800.
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Selo_Uzumaki
07-18-2020, 06:41 AM #10

You felt the 143-watt stock cap was a bit disappointing. Even at the boosted level of 4950 watts, the chip performs better with higher power. Regarding your sample... I purchased it around three years ago for $800.

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