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Upgrade Advice for Build AdviceTwo PCs: AMD Ryzen 9000 vs Intel Core Ultra 200?

Upgrade Advice for Build AdviceTwo PCs: AMD Ryzen 9000 vs Intel Core Ultra 200?

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LeCuriousFox
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11-13-2021, 06:01 AM
#21
There are valid reasons to set up Windows 11 on older devices, and there are equally compelling reasons for moving ahead. I’m excited to see you get everything working smoothly, including the updated images.
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LeCuriousFox
11-13-2021, 06:01 AM #21

There are valid reasons to set up Windows 11 on older devices, and there are equally compelling reasons for moving ahead. I’m excited to see you get everything working smoothly, including the updated images.

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DaaarkPlayer
Member
153
11-20-2021, 11:47 AM
#22
This is exactly why I'm in no hurry to move on from my 12700k. And honestly, I don't see any need to anyhow. It literally does everything I need it to do, but, assuming specific purpose, so does the 5600G in my garage and the 5700 on my test bench. I just prefer to run Intel on my main system, but it's been a few years since they had anything worth even entertaining.
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DaaarkPlayer
11-20-2021, 11:47 AM #22

This is exactly why I'm in no hurry to move on from my 12700k. And honestly, I don't see any need to anyhow. It literally does everything I need it to do, but, assuming specific purpose, so does the 5600G in my garage and the 5700 on my test bench. I just prefer to run Intel on my main system, but it's been a few years since they had anything worth even entertaining.

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florian12pro
Member
144
11-22-2021, 10:58 PM
#23
Sadly, Intel has missed the mark again and Core 200 is simply weak.
Consider AMD's performance but AM5 will remain relevant for ZEN 6, meaning another generation won't be needed.
I'm uncertain about what Intel plans for next-gen, but they've already lost market share and consumer trust in desktop computing.
We require Intel to stay competitive, yet currently they can't even lead in the desktop market.
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florian12pro
11-22-2021, 10:58 PM #23

Sadly, Intel has missed the mark again and Core 200 is simply weak.
Consider AMD's performance but AM5 will remain relevant for ZEN 6, meaning another generation won't be needed.
I'm uncertain about what Intel plans for next-gen, but they've already lost market share and consumer trust in desktop computing.
We require Intel to stay competitive, yet currently they can't even lead in the desktop market.

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11-22-2021, 11:19 PM
#24
They perform well in competition. What they're not achieving is growing, which is what they've done before, and unfortunately, they're also slipping sometimes. That's unacceptable. Both firms are beginning to face challenges because of their size.
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Dolphinpokemon
11-22-2021, 11:19 PM #24

They perform well in competition. What they're not achieving is growing, which is what they've done before, and unfortunately, they're also slipping sometimes. That's unacceptable. Both firms are beginning to face challenges because of their size.

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alejandrobo1
Posting Freak
877
11-23-2021, 04:28 AM
#25
Intel is nowhere close to competing effectively!
To gain a foothold in the desktop market, they REQUIRE 3D V-Cache and long socket durability.
They've been struggling with power-hungry CPUs that try to lead, losing to more affordable and efficient alternatives.
Don’t waste time on their disappointing socket lifespan!
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alejandrobo1
11-23-2021, 04:28 AM #25

Intel is nowhere close to competing effectively!
To gain a foothold in the desktop market, they REQUIRE 3D V-Cache and long socket durability.
They've been struggling with power-hungry CPUs that try to lead, losing to more affordable and efficient alternatives.
Don’t waste time on their disappointing socket lifespan!

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NestangriffPvP
Junior Member
27
11-24-2021, 07:00 PM
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As I mentioned, I intend to purchase the necessary parts in Q3'25, which is August-September. Regarding build pages on pcpp and builds.gg, I won't be updating existing builds. Instead, new builds will be generated whenever core components change, along with their dedicated pages and histories. This approach follows the same pattern as the Skylake build at the start. I purchased a CPU-MoBo-RAM combo but reused other components from my previous AMD build. This doesn't imply that my old AMD build received an upgrade. Moreover, I believe Intel should also eliminate the P- and E-cores. AMD opts for simplicity: several cores with hyperthreading. Intel complicates things: P-cores with hyperthreading plus E-cores without. When both P- and E-cores were introduced initially, most software couldn't distinguish between them and relied heavily on slower E-cores. This issue has persisted, making it difficult for software to decide which core—P or E—to prioritize.
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NestangriffPvP
11-24-2021, 07:00 PM #26

As I mentioned, I intend to purchase the necessary parts in Q3'25, which is August-September. Regarding build pages on pcpp and builds.gg, I won't be updating existing builds. Instead, new builds will be generated whenever core components change, along with their dedicated pages and histories. This approach follows the same pattern as the Skylake build at the start. I purchased a CPU-MoBo-RAM combo but reused other components from my previous AMD build. This doesn't imply that my old AMD build received an upgrade. Moreover, I believe Intel should also eliminate the P- and E-cores. AMD opts for simplicity: several cores with hyperthreading. Intel complicates things: P-cores with hyperthreading plus E-cores without. When both P- and E-cores were introduced initially, most software couldn't distinguish between them and relied heavily on slower E-cores. This issue has persisted, making it difficult for software to decide which core—P or E—to prioritize.

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