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Unusual crash with no apparent cause.

Unusual crash with no apparent cause.

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chaoscrafter1
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120
09-10-2023, 05:33 PM
#11
they consistently used four RAM sticks during the initial setup.
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chaoscrafter1
09-10-2023, 05:33 PM #11

they consistently used four RAM sticks during the initial setup.

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138
09-11-2023, 12:46 AM
#12
consider updating to a different brand for better performance. Running just two sticks is manageable, but handling two 32GB sticks can be challenging.
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DiamondKing126
09-11-2023, 12:46 AM #12

consider updating to a different brand for better performance. Running just two sticks is manageable, but handling two 32GB sticks can be challenging.

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Awibo
Junior Member
45
09-16-2023, 05:23 AM
#13
XMP is turned off, it doesn't matter either way
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Awibo
09-16-2023, 05:23 AM #13

XMP is turned off, it doesn't matter either way

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ChaseCyclone
Junior Member
35
09-21-2023, 01:09 AM
#14
I don't understand what it means, so I don't know the reason for it being at 1200MHz instead of 1600MHz.
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ChaseCyclone
09-21-2023, 01:09 AM #14

I don't understand what it means, so I don't know the reason for it being at 1200MHz instead of 1600MHz.

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126
09-30-2023, 02:45 AM
#15
Try removing two RAM modules to check if the issue resolves.
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HUNGERGAMEMARK
09-30-2023, 02:45 AM #15

Try removing two RAM modules to check if the issue resolves.

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Templer1887
Member
158
10-02-2023, 01:59 AM
#16
Ryzen 3000 should have FCLK:MCLK:UCLK all matching at one ratio, which is the standard 1600MHz. The listed RAM speeds are technically half since they're shown in MT/s rather than MHz, making it simpler for manufacturers to describe. For example, a default 2133MT/s RAM would run MCLK around 1066MHz. If FCLK is 1200MHz, with MCLK and UCLK at 1066MHz, stability might be affected. The ideal settings are either 1600MHz 1:1:1 or 1800MHz for both speed and reliability.
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Templer1887
10-02-2023, 01:59 AM #16

Ryzen 3000 should have FCLK:MCLK:UCLK all matching at one ratio, which is the standard 1600MHz. The listed RAM speeds are technically half since they're shown in MT/s rather than MHz, making it simpler for manufacturers to describe. For example, a default 2133MT/s RAM would run MCLK around 1066MHz. If FCLK is 1200MHz, with MCLK and UCLK at 1066MHz, stability might be affected. The ideal settings are either 1600MHz 1:1:1 or 1800MHz for both speed and reliability.

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DantehIsGay
Posting Freak
902
10-03-2023, 02:24 AM
#17
The person has been struggling for about five years and is unsure why a solution would ever be effective. While I can't give a clear answer, it seems this is likely the resolution, so you should try it or decide for yourself.
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DantehIsGay
10-03-2023, 02:24 AM #17

The person has been struggling for about five years and is unsure why a solution would ever be effective. While I can't give a clear answer, it seems this is likely the resolution, so you should try it or decide for yourself.

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Skater420
Member
155
10-03-2023, 03:12 AM
#18
Mark has discussed LPX and Ryzen performance issues on tech communities for some time. The concerns seem linked to older LPX models using specific memory chips, though not all users face problems. Corsair now offers a dedicated LPX kit for Ryzen, suggesting the problem mainly affects earlier versions. For budget options, consider purchasing used DDR4 modules without heatsinks, such as 8GB 2133/2400 sticks from Crucial or Kingston. This should be affordable. It’s unlikely your CPU’s memory controller would fail at 2133 MHz, though this varies. AMD’s official guidelines indicate the memory controller has stricter limits when using four sticks compared to two, especially for dual-rank configurations. Most modern systems now use single-rank 16GB modules, while larger 32GB units are typically dual-rank. Running four sticks usually requires higher voltage from the CPU’s memory controller than two, depending on speed.
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Skater420
10-03-2023, 03:12 AM #18

Mark has discussed LPX and Ryzen performance issues on tech communities for some time. The concerns seem linked to older LPX models using specific memory chips, though not all users face problems. Corsair now offers a dedicated LPX kit for Ryzen, suggesting the problem mainly affects earlier versions. For budget options, consider purchasing used DDR4 modules without heatsinks, such as 8GB 2133/2400 sticks from Crucial or Kingston. This should be affordable. It’s unlikely your CPU’s memory controller would fail at 2133 MHz, though this varies. AMD’s official guidelines indicate the memory controller has stricter limits when using four sticks compared to two, especially for dual-rank configurations. Most modern systems now use single-rank 16GB modules, while larger 32GB units are typically dual-rank. Running four sticks usually requires higher voltage from the CPU’s memory controller than two, depending on speed.

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Matke04
Posting Freak
825
10-08-2023, 04:27 PM
#19
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Matke04
10-08-2023, 04:27 PM #19

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lb23kh
Member
141
10-16-2023, 05:07 AM
#20
over the years I've dealt with this problem (until I finally upgraded to the Trident Z b-dies), it wasn't that complicated. Most of the time the error showed up as "WHEA" pointing to an Nvidia chip... turns out it was just faulty RAM, really. The reason behind this is that certain operations always use the same sections of RAM, causing the issue. It's essentially a driver problem from the OS, triggered by bad RAM and not recognizing it. This also explains why RAM or CPU errors often show up in the same areas of specific games or apps—what seems random to us is actually predictable.
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lb23kh
10-16-2023, 05:07 AM #20

over the years I've dealt with this problem (until I finally upgraded to the Trident Z b-dies), it wasn't that complicated. Most of the time the error showed up as "WHEA" pointing to an Nvidia chip... turns out it was just faulty RAM, really. The reason behind this is that certain operations always use the same sections of RAM, causing the issue. It's essentially a driver problem from the OS, triggered by bad RAM and not recognizing it. This also explains why RAM or CPU errors often show up in the same areas of specific games or apps—what seems random to us is actually predictable.

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