F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Uncertain whether liquid cooling is suitable for this build

Uncertain whether liquid cooling is suitable for this build

Uncertain whether liquid cooling is suitable for this build

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ManMallow
Member
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06-13-2022, 09:29 PM
#1
Hey! I’m looking into getting liquid cooling for my CPU. It’s getting too hot even with regular cooling, and both my Ryzen 3600 and 5800 X3D models have this issue. I’m not sure if fitting liquid cooling will work or if I’ll need help. Thanks!
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ManMallow
06-13-2022, 09:29 PM #1

Hey! I’m looking into getting liquid cooling for my CPU. It’s getting too hot even with regular cooling, and both my Ryzen 3600 and 5800 X3D models have this issue. I’m not sure if fitting liquid cooling will work or if I’ll need help. Thanks!

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martims098
Member
193
06-21-2022, 07:44 AM
#2
Not enough details to determine the exact information requested.
What type of chassis is this?
Which CPU cooler is it? I think it might be Cooler Master Hyper 212 or similar.
What other hardware specifications are there?
Is it stored under the desk in that way? How do the intake fans manage airflow?
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martims098
06-21-2022, 07:44 AM #2

Not enough details to determine the exact information requested.
What type of chassis is this?
Which CPU cooler is it? I think it might be Cooler Master Hyper 212 or similar.
What other hardware specifications are there?
Is it stored under the desk in that way? How do the intake fans manage airflow?

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Galen_Tunna
Member
62
06-22-2022, 10:22 AM
#3
I kind of gave up on trying to fix the problem so I left the details regarding the issue itself, since I'm just trying to get liquid cooling.
Anyways, the case is Antec P101 Silent.
Cpu cooling - pure rock slim
The currents specs are -
RX 7800 XT
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Gigabyte B450M DS3H
2 SSDs
2 sticks of 16gb ram
ANTEC PSU 650W Neo Eco Modular 80+
I do keep it under the desk like that, I don't really have anywhere else to put it so there isn't much place for air, thats why i wanted liquid cooling.
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Galen_Tunna
06-22-2022, 10:22 AM #3

I kind of gave up on trying to fix the problem so I left the details regarding the issue itself, since I'm just trying to get liquid cooling.
Anyways, the case is Antec P101 Silent.
Cpu cooling - pure rock slim
The currents specs are -
RX 7800 XT
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Gigabyte B450M DS3H
2 SSDs
2 sticks of 16gb ram
ANTEC PSU 650W Neo Eco Modular 80+
I do keep it under the desk like that, I don't really have anywhere else to put it so there isn't much place for air, thats why i wanted liquid cooling.

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06-22-2022, 11:01 AM
#4
The cooler features a Cooler Master branding, which might affect what I share here. The Pure Rock Slim is compact, though it holds only a small amount of memory if that's the case. The 5800X3D chip has reduced clock speeds to maintain cache performance. A quiet-focused case isn't great for heat dissipation. A sturdy front panel and a full fan filter in front of the intake fans would help. Placing a large GPU there could work, but it might cause GPU temperatures to rise too high—this would need testing.
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clement_246871
06-22-2022, 11:01 AM #4

The cooler features a Cooler Master branding, which might affect what I share here. The Pure Rock Slim is compact, though it holds only a small amount of memory if that's the case. The 5800X3D chip has reduced clock speeds to maintain cache performance. A quiet-focused case isn't great for heat dissipation. A sturdy front panel and a full fan filter in front of the intake fans would help. Placing a large GPU there could work, but it might cause GPU temperatures to rise too high—this would need testing.

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yG4BR13L
Member
111
06-23-2022, 06:34 AM
#5
I'm not too sure about the cooler, but you're probably right.
In any case, my CPU hits 80-85°C around 60-70 usage, and it doesn't look like I can install a liquid cooler easily. So, if I understand correctly, my choices are:
1. Relocating the PC to check if temperatures drop
2. Trying a different air cooler, which could work or not
3. Upgrading to a larger case
(?)
Also, I didn't mention it clearly—I think my CPU overheats because of poor placement or a faulty cooler.
By the way, I managed to fit a large GPU there; I had to disconnect some front USB ports from the motherboard, so some parts of my setup aren't perfect.
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yG4BR13L
06-23-2022, 06:34 AM #5

I'm not too sure about the cooler, but you're probably right.
In any case, my CPU hits 80-85°C around 60-70 usage, and it doesn't look like I can install a liquid cooler easily. So, if I understand correctly, my choices are:
1. Relocating the PC to check if temperatures drop
2. Trying a different air cooler, which could work or not
3. Upgrading to a larger case
(?)
Also, I didn't mention it clearly—I think my CPU overheats because of poor placement or a faulty cooler.
By the way, I managed to fit a large GPU there; I had to disconnect some front USB ports from the motherboard, so some parts of my setup aren't perfect.

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filcio1234
Member
211
07-13-2022, 11:13 PM
#6
You can install nearly any AIO into that vehicle if you're prepared for the required modifications, and you're okay with having the radiator placed externally.
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filcio1234
07-13-2022, 11:13 PM #6

You can install nearly any AIO into that vehicle if you're prepared for the required modifications, and you're okay with having the radiator placed externally.

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SuperGirl_029
Member
64
07-14-2022, 07:56 AM
#7
You don't really "need" a water cooler. A cooler similar to yours should suffice.
Start with basic adjustments. Run it with the side of the case removed; if that works, your case likely lacks sufficient airflow.
Then consider replacing the current cooler—replacement is inevitable.
Use cinebench to check for thermal throttling. While it's a benchmarking tool, it's excellent for evaluating cooling performance.
If problems persist, numerous air coolers can handle a 5800x3d efficiently, many maintaining lower temperatures than the 7800x3d.
There are many reliable options available; reviews are plentiful.
A well-known choice is Thermalright’s Peerless Assassin 120, affordable under $40 and highly rated in comparisons.
If you're after a water cooler, it's likely your case will accommodate it.
I'd advise against it—water coolers tend to be expensive and more complex than air coolers.
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SuperGirl_029
07-14-2022, 07:56 AM #7

You don't really "need" a water cooler. A cooler similar to yours should suffice.
Start with basic adjustments. Run it with the side of the case removed; if that works, your case likely lacks sufficient airflow.
Then consider replacing the current cooler—replacement is inevitable.
Use cinebench to check for thermal throttling. While it's a benchmarking tool, it's excellent for evaluating cooling performance.
If problems persist, numerous air coolers can handle a 5800x3d efficiently, many maintaining lower temperatures than the 7800x3d.
There are many reliable options available; reviews are plentiful.
A well-known choice is Thermalright’s Peerless Assassin 120, affordable under $40 and highly rated in comparisons.
If you're after a water cooler, it's likely your case will accommodate it.
I'd advise against it—water coolers tend to be expensive and more complex than air coolers.

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Raving_Noah15
Junior Member
3
07-14-2022, 12:10 PM
#8
Sadly, I don't believe I have the necessary expertise, and I also lack the time to try.
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Raving_Noah15
07-14-2022, 12:10 PM #8

Sadly, I don't believe I have the necessary expertise, and I also lack the time to try.

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Nivek360
Member
68
07-15-2022, 08:13 AM
#9
Well, I believe the problem isn't repasting, because it occurred with both of my processors—one was pre-pasted and the other was the current CPU. I tested Cinebench with the side case closed: 85-90°C for most of the time, 754 points. When the side case was removed, the score dropped to 80-85°C, about 83 points. I couldn't locate the cooler you mentioned under $80 on Amazon, it was around $61, but I suppose that's acceptable if it works. Also, I'm not sure if it will fit, as it seems quite large.
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Nivek360
07-15-2022, 08:13 AM #9

Well, I believe the problem isn't repasting, because it occurred with both of my processors—one was pre-pasted and the other was the current CPU. I tested Cinebench with the side case closed: 85-90°C for most of the time, 754 points. When the side case was removed, the score dropped to 80-85°C, about 83 points. I couldn't locate the cooler you mentioned under $80 on Amazon, it was around $61, but I suppose that's acceptable if it works. Also, I'm not sure if it will fit, as it seems quite large.

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07-16-2022, 04:30 AM
#10
You're not facing any issues with the cooler, and the alternative won't significantly impact performance.
The main concern appears to be the case itself. As long as the CPU stays under 90 degrees and the side isn't blocking airflow, it should function normally.
Whether the temperature is 83, 73, or even 63 doesn't matter much as long as the CPU doesn't throttle due to thermal limits—it will operate consistently. If another CPU were used, you might need to lower the temperature for stability. Since X3D chips can't be overclocked, the exact value isn't crucial.
If the results remain consistent, it could indicate thermal throttling isn't the cause. hwinfo64 can confirm if throttling occurs.
You might consider switching to a case with more mesh panels. If the side panel is metal, drilling holes could provide a cost-effective solution.
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RabbitKiller99
07-16-2022, 04:30 AM #10

You're not facing any issues with the cooler, and the alternative won't significantly impact performance.
The main concern appears to be the case itself. As long as the CPU stays under 90 degrees and the side isn't blocking airflow, it should function normally.
Whether the temperature is 83, 73, or even 63 doesn't matter much as long as the CPU doesn't throttle due to thermal limits—it will operate consistently. If another CPU were used, you might need to lower the temperature for stability. Since X3D chips can't be overclocked, the exact value isn't crucial.
If the results remain consistent, it could indicate thermal throttling isn't the cause. hwinfo64 can confirm if throttling occurs.
You might consider switching to a case with more mesh panels. If the side panel is metal, drilling holes could provide a cost-effective solution.

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