Unable to update Ryzen 3600 using BIOS on Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite
Unable to update Ryzen 3600 using BIOS on Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite
When you increase the clock speed to 4.3 at 1.25V using RyzenMaster... have you checked HWInfo64 for the actual STI2-TFN core voltage? That value reflects what the CPU cores are experiencing, not just the VRM readings which can be inaccurate due to Vdroop effects. Have you performed a CMOS reset after each BIOS modification? Currently it's acceptable. Updating the BIOS doesn't always align settings with the display, and a CMOS reset should resolve that. The GB’s 'dynamic vcore' concept didn’t resonate with me; I’d prefer an adjustable VCore setting like others do (which is why I recommended this to MSI). I remember having to raise the voltage significantly higher than expected to achieve the same STI2-TFN core voltage that RyzenMaster does. This implies you might be setting it too conservatively, risking crashes during startup. In the long run, it’s wiser not to overclock in this manner. It could generate excessive heat and harm performance, especially during demanding tasks like gaming.
The voltage for STI2-TFN changes between 1.25V and 1.237-1.244V depending on whether you're gaming or idle, and it drops further to 1.237 when under stress. I only cleared CMOS once before making BIOS updates. Do you think I should clear it again now, or is this the right approach?
I don’t want Gigabyte’s dynamic BST settings, as they’re not ideal for me. I was hoping for an MSI model but it was out of stock. I needed to buy the PC quickly due to work, and there were only a few Gigabyte units available—some bad Asrock B450s and other B350 models.
The voltage is mainly about lowering it for stable clock performance rather than overclocking. Since my GPU (1060) is a bottleneck in some cases, I don’t see much benefit from CPU overclocking. But when I’m working or gaming, the extra clock speed helps because my CPU usage spikes then drops when I play. Lol.
Thanks for the reply!
Just to confirm and ensure the CMOS is clean after the BIOS update and before making any adjustments.
You may find interest in 1Usmus' new Ryzen utility...CTR or ClockTuner for Ryzen. It assists in identifying optimized settings for Ryzen without significantly overclocking, maintaining a stable clock at a safe voltage.
The useful feature is its use of RyzenMaster resident service (requires RM installed and license accepted beforehand). It performs stability tests with Prime95 to determine an optimal clock at 1.275V, reducing the clock at low voltages until stability is achieved. If it remains stable, it gradually increases clocks until instability occurs, then returns to the last stable setting. After that, you can run benchmarks (like Cinebench 20) to decide if the new clock setting suits you.
If you wish to go further, you can adjust the reference voltage above 1.275V, though this is strongly discouraged as experienced overclockers warn it may cause premature wear.
Once you settle on the best settings, you can set up a profile that loads automatically at each Windows start—eliminating the need to rely solely on BIOS for overclocking and leveraging RyzenMaster's capabilities!
I'll attempt to reset CMOS and restart everything. It seems unlikely it will make a difference, but it might be worth a shot. For the items mentioned, I'm not keen since it requires hours of adjustments and I'm not particularly interested in heavy overclocking or significant performance gains right now. When upgrading the GPU or PSU, I might look into it. It has built-in options to test on Cinebench, which I understand, and since you need to run it around 10-20 times, it takes a lot of time. As mentioned before, my current chip is sufficient at [email protected] for my needs; I just wish I didn't have to deal with BIOS settings and reapply them every boot using third-party software. I'm aware that Ryzen Master also has similar stability issues, though it's not perfect but provides enough. For the next step, I'll explore further when I acquire the components listed above. And regarding the final part, that definitely warrants my attention, especially if it allows applying settings without running programs or waiting each time. I've seen some videos about it—Linus has one if I'm not mistaken.
This feature is designed to save you from hours of tuning and testing. It requires only about 20-30 minutes and handles everything automatically. The default settings won't significantly improve performance. The most useful aspect is the ability to apply settings at each restart. If I were pushing for overclocking, I'd definitely choose this over BIOS. Linus' video highlighted its effectiveness in tuning a Threadripper system, especially in identifying the best stable configuration for each component. It can be time-consuming on systems with many chiplets, but it works well on CPUs with just one CCD or two CCXs.