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Top Vermeer CPU options for boosting performance

Top Vermeer CPU options for boosting performance

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jack_is_pro
Junior Member
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01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#1
Hello, your plan sounds interesting! You're considering a 5950x/5900x/5800x build and are evaluating CPU options after your current x570 setup. Since you're new to AMD, it's great that you're focusing on learning while aiming for better performance. The lower TDP of the 5800x might give you more headroom for overclocking compared to the 5900x in many tasks. Your budget for RAM and the desire to boost clock speeds for gaming are solid choices. Just keep in mind that pushing single-threaded performance depends on the specific CPU model and its architecture—don't worry if your approach seems a bit off; it's all part of the learning process!
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jack_is_pro
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #1

Hello, your plan sounds interesting! You're considering a 5950x/5900x/5800x build and are evaluating CPU options after your current x570 setup. Since you're new to AMD, it's great that you're focusing on learning while aiming for better performance. The lower TDP of the 5800x might give you more headroom for overclocking compared to the 5900x in many tasks. Your budget for RAM and the desire to boost clock speeds for gaming are solid choices. Just keep in mind that pushing single-threaded performance depends on the specific CPU model and its architecture—don't worry if your approach seems a bit off; it's all part of the learning process!

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sheroy1
Junior Member
20
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#2
To reach maximum performance, you’ll need to be fortunate and find an AMD CPU that supports heavy overclocking. Intel CPUs tend to get very hot, especially with the current 14nm architecture, though they might shift to 10nm soon. The AMD CPUs are expected to run cooler, particularly the 11th generation models.
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sheroy1
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #2

To reach maximum performance, you’ll need to be fortunate and find an AMD CPU that supports heavy overclocking. Intel CPUs tend to get very hot, especially with the current 14nm architecture, though they might shift to 10nm soon. The AMD CPUs are expected to run cooler, particularly the 11th generation models.

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Asweetliar
Member
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01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#3
Most Vermeer CPUs offer very little or no overclocking potential. For instance, my 5600X reached only 4.7GHz all-core, just a small increase over stock speeds. Adding PBO still boosted performance by about 4.65GHz. Paying extra for a premium OC board and hoping for significant gains seems like a poor use of resources. I managed to get the best results with custom water cooling and a high-end B550 board (Asus B550-E), effectively eliminating any noticeable overclocking limits. Based on what I've heard, most users seem to hit their performance ceiling quickly. Some achieve higher speeds, but it's usually around 100MHz more at most. Multi-chiplet CPUs such as the 5900X and 5950X typically have one strong chiplet and one weaker one, which restricts all-core overclocking anyway. A good rule is to just turn on PBO and maybe AutoOC—this usually unlocks the full potential of your Ryzen processor. If you're serious about pushing performance, Intel still provides more room for customization. Honestly, I don't see much value in investing in hardware solely for overclocking anymore. Focus on the necessary I/O and VRM settings that match your target CPU, and you should be fine. Ultimately, you might end up with a 5950X that doesn't perform well under OC and feels like a waste of money.
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Asweetliar
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #3

Most Vermeer CPUs offer very little or no overclocking potential. For instance, my 5600X reached only 4.7GHz all-core, just a small increase over stock speeds. Adding PBO still boosted performance by about 4.65GHz. Paying extra for a premium OC board and hoping for significant gains seems like a poor use of resources. I managed to get the best results with custom water cooling and a high-end B550 board (Asus B550-E), effectively eliminating any noticeable overclocking limits. Based on what I've heard, most users seem to hit their performance ceiling quickly. Some achieve higher speeds, but it's usually around 100MHz more at most. Multi-chiplet CPUs such as the 5900X and 5950X typically have one strong chiplet and one weaker one, which restricts all-core overclocking anyway. A good rule is to just turn on PBO and maybe AutoOC—this usually unlocks the full potential of your Ryzen processor. If you're serious about pushing performance, Intel still provides more room for customization. Honestly, I don't see much value in investing in hardware solely for overclocking anymore. Focus on the necessary I/O and VRM settings that match your target CPU, and you should be fine. Ultimately, you might end up with a 5950X that doesn't perform well under OC and feels like a waste of money.

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Zexer_
Member
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01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#4
Upgrading performance past limits seems to be over.
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Zexer_
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #4

Upgrading performance past limits seems to be over.

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DrBrokenBones
Senior Member
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01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#5
Sure thing. It seems 4.8 allcore was typical for the 5900x, but maybe it varies. I’m not aiming to craft a custom loop here—opting instead for Galahad 360 or Kraken Z73. Overclocking a Ryzen might not be worth it for this machine. The dark hero board features tech that adapts its OC presets based on workloads. Der8auer shared a video about it, though it could just be marketing fluff. I believe it’s pointless beyond a certain point—it’s mostly a hobby for me. With the 5950x no longer in stock lately, my choices are shrinking. I’ll probably wait for more leaks about 11900k. Appreciate your thoughts!
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DrBrokenBones
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #5

Sure thing. It seems 4.8 allcore was typical for the 5900x, but maybe it varies. I’m not aiming to craft a custom loop here—opting instead for Galahad 360 or Kraken Z73. Overclocking a Ryzen might not be worth it for this machine. The dark hero board features tech that adapts its OC presets based on workloads. Der8auer shared a video about it, though it could just be marketing fluff. I believe it’s pointless beyond a certain point—it’s mostly a hobby for me. With the 5950x no longer in stock lately, my choices are shrinking. I’ll probably wait for more leaks about 11900k. Appreciate your thoughts!

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adcrash17
Member
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01-01-2016, 12:54 PM
#6
I've watched the Der8auer video about the Dark Hero. It's an interesting feature, though its usefulness seems limited. You can easily switch to PBO on any board and achieve similar outcomes without being tied to a specific clock speed. I find it enjoyable experimenting with overclocking, but realistically you'll only do this once—apply the final BIOS settings and that's about it. It doesn't seem worth spending hundreds of dollars. If you're considering a gaming CPU, wait for reviews around 11900K. Overall, a 5600X will likely perform just as well as a 5950X in most games.
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adcrash17
01-01-2016, 12:54 PM #6

I've watched the Der8auer video about the Dark Hero. It's an interesting feature, though its usefulness seems limited. You can easily switch to PBO on any board and achieve similar outcomes without being tied to a specific clock speed. I find it enjoyable experimenting with overclocking, but realistically you'll only do this once—apply the final BIOS settings and that's about it. It doesn't seem worth spending hundreds of dollars. If you're considering a gaming CPU, wait for reviews around 11900K. Overall, a 5600X will likely perform just as well as a 5950X in most games.