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Too much thermal paste can cause overheating and damage components.

Too much thermal paste can cause overheating and damage components.

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themazegames
Junior Member
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08-13-2016, 11:30 PM
#1
I received my MasterGel Maker today and wanted to replicate their setup exactly. I completed three edge-to-edge IHS tests. My gel offers slightly better coverage compared to theirs. Previously, I never experienced spills during spreading, except during very large applications.
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themazegames
08-13-2016, 11:30 PM #1

I received my MasterGel Maker today and wanted to replicate their setup exactly. I completed three edge-to-edge IHS tests. My gel offers slightly better coverage compared to theirs. Previously, I never experienced spills during spreading, except during very large applications.

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DGKokeeGamer
Junior Member
13
08-14-2016, 12:46 AM
#2
Using non-conductive pastes makes it tricky to get too much, as long as it doesn't leak beyond the edges and touch the CPU connections. Slightly more is likely okay than less.
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DGKokeeGamer
08-14-2016, 12:46 AM #2

Using non-conductive pastes makes it tricky to get too much, as long as it doesn't leak beyond the edges and touch the CPU connections. Slightly more is likely okay than less.

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MyNameTim5581
Member
196
08-14-2016, 01:32 AM
#3
This has always been my understanding too. I ran out of NT-H2 just before getting the MasterGel Maker, and the application felt very light—temperatures weren’t as steady. I relied on the spread method with my 7700K using an AIO, which kept temps stable. I often worry about reapplying because I know exactly where my temps were; if they drifted, it was likely due to the application, not other factors. Here’s a photo of my NT-H2 setup. I was running at 28–32°C idle at 4.1GHz, but I’m now re-clocking my Ryzen 3600 up to 4.4GHz to test lower voltages per clock speed. Current max temps are around 71°C at 4.2GHz. It’s air cooled, so I don’t expect AIO performance, but I think a better thermal paste could still make a noticeable difference—even a few degrees counts.
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MyNameTim5581
08-14-2016, 01:32 AM #3

This has always been my understanding too. I ran out of NT-H2 just before getting the MasterGel Maker, and the application felt very light—temperatures weren’t as steady. I relied on the spread method with my 7700K using an AIO, which kept temps stable. I often worry about reapplying because I know exactly where my temps were; if they drifted, it was likely due to the application, not other factors. Here’s a photo of my NT-H2 setup. I was running at 28–32°C idle at 4.1GHz, but I’m now re-clocking my Ryzen 3600 up to 4.4GHz to test lower voltages per clock speed. Current max temps are around 71°C at 4.2GHz. It’s air cooled, so I don’t expect AIO performance, but I think a better thermal paste could still make a noticeable difference—even a few degrees counts.

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_NinjaSam_
Member
170
08-14-2016, 03:15 AM
#4
I usually achieve optimal temperatures by applying the paste in a thin layer using a plastic card. My previous setup used an X shape, and I’m curious if lowering it slightly would help if I reapply.
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_NinjaSam_
08-14-2016, 03:15 AM #4

I usually achieve optimal temperatures by applying the paste in a thin layer using a plastic card. My previous setup used an X shape, and I’m curious if lowering it slightly would help if I reapply.

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PixelGamerOMG
Junior Member
18
08-15-2016, 07:35 AM
#5
I concur, I've experimented with X, dot, and spread. I typically use X, but with NT-H2 it produces results quickly and often excessively. The sole reason I opted for spread on this product was because the MasterGel Maker tube includes a built-in spread applicator, which is convenient.
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PixelGamerOMG
08-15-2016, 07:35 AM #5

I concur, I've experimented with X, dot, and spread. I typically use X, but with NT-H2 it produces results quickly and often excessively. The sole reason I opted for spread on this product was because the MasterGel Maker tube includes a built-in spread applicator, which is convenient.

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Blueey
Junior Member
5
08-16-2016, 05:07 PM
#6
I placed myself in a square or the full IHS. Like this.
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Blueey
08-16-2016, 05:07 PM #6

I placed myself in a square or the full IHS. Like this.

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KingLentil
Junior Member
14
08-18-2016, 07:37 PM
#7
The majority of the warmth comes from the core of the IHS, which is a solid design choice. Similar patterns often appear in other dot applications too. I’m not sure about the image’s precision, but it’s interesting to observe how various systems look.
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KingLentil
08-18-2016, 07:37 PM #7

The majority of the warmth comes from the core of the IHS, which is a solid design choice. Similar patterns often appear in other dot applications too. I’m not sure about the image’s precision, but it’s interesting to observe how various systems look.

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Cewd
Junior Member
15
09-01-2016, 05:37 PM
#8
I usually avoid dots or X marks since they don’t match the CPU shape. In my view, a square provides good even coverage with minimal movement. However, it really depends on how thick you apply it. When using Naked Die, full spread is ideal without any deviation. That’s a strong point about complete coverage. People worry about air gaps, but the key is twisting back and forth on the CPU when placing the cooler just like you’d remove it. The best results come from smoothing the cooler and CPU to perfection. You can cut down on TIM usage during installation. Most IHS plates are curved, particularly with AMD’s designs. Because AMD chips have cores in three or four spots, aim for maximum coverage even if slightly excessive. You should ensure the paste contacts 100% of the CPU cooler and IHS area. That’s my opinion.
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Cewd
09-01-2016, 05:37 PM #8

I usually avoid dots or X marks since they don’t match the CPU shape. In my view, a square provides good even coverage with minimal movement. However, it really depends on how thick you apply it. When using Naked Die, full spread is ideal without any deviation. That’s a strong point about complete coverage. People worry about air gaps, but the key is twisting back and forth on the CPU when placing the cooler just like you’d remove it. The best results come from smoothing the cooler and CPU to perfection. You can cut down on TIM usage during installation. Most IHS plates are curved, particularly with AMD’s designs. Because AMD chips have cores in three or four spots, aim for maximum coverage even if slightly excessive. You should ensure the paste contacts 100% of the CPU cooler and IHS area. That’s my opinion.

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Infin80
Junior Member
1
09-01-2016, 06:52 PM
#9
Thanks for the tips! I was overcomplicating things with the 3-edge-to-edge IHS layout. The third version should work better. This tool performs well. It might have looked bad because of the mayo sandwich reference. #CPUSandwich
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Infin80
09-01-2016, 06:52 PM #9

Thanks for the tips! I was overcomplicating things with the 3-edge-to-edge IHS layout. The third version should work better. This tool performs well. It might have looked bad because of the mayo sandwich reference. #CPUSandwich

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MMAZZA
Member
162
09-01-2016, 07:59 PM
#10
New technique reduced my readings by 9 to 10°C. Latest measurement shows 4.1GHz @ +0.042v (range 1.116v–1.152v).
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MMAZZA
09-01-2016, 07:59 PM #10

New technique reduced my readings by 9 to 10°C. Latest measurement shows 4.1GHz @ +0.042v (range 1.116v–1.152v).

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