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These are distinct pathways. They function independently within the system.

These are distinct pathways. They function independently within the system.

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coolman9222
Posting Freak
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04-09-2023, 12:25 AM
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The information suggests a misunderstanding about dual-channel configurations. It seems some users are confused about how two independent sets of slots work versus a single dual channel that allows more flexibility. The notes also highlight a performance issue with specific speeds on certain kits.
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coolman9222
04-09-2023, 12:25 AM #1

The information suggests a misunderstanding about dual-channel configurations. It seems some users are confused about how two independent sets of slots work versus a single dual channel that allows more flexibility. The notes also highlight a performance issue with specific speeds on certain kits.

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SirKumsishon
Senior Member
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04-11-2023, 04:02 PM
#2
This explains how memory traces are organized on most motherboards. There are two channels for each channel—A and B. For dual-channel performance, each channel needs a separate RAM stick. If you have two sticks per channel (like slots 3 and 4), it’s single-channel RAM despite the extra sticks. The placement in slots 2 and 4 comes from signal reflection issues; unfinished wires act like antennas, disrupting signals and lowering memory speed. It functions, but maximum speeds are capped compared to other slots.
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SirKumsishon
04-11-2023, 04:02 PM #2

This explains how memory traces are organized on most motherboards. There are two channels for each channel—A and B. For dual-channel performance, each channel needs a separate RAM stick. If you have two sticks per channel (like slots 3 and 4), it’s single-channel RAM despite the extra sticks. The placement in slots 2 and 4 comes from signal reflection issues; unfinished wires act like antennas, disrupting signals and lowering memory speed. It functions, but maximum speeds are capped compared to other slots.

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crafteur57
Member
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04-13-2023, 09:19 AM
#3
It seems the options are limited to matching settings across both sticks, and you’d need to switch to a single channel if you want to use B with different configurations.
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crafteur57
04-13-2023, 09:19 AM #3

It seems the options are limited to matching settings across both sticks, and you’d need to switch to a single channel if you want to use B with different configurations.

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iGrizzly
Junior Member
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04-14-2023, 03:04 AM
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On AMD systems you can't adjust settings per channel separately; each channel must share identical memory timings. Intel allows varying timings across different DIMMs, so you can assign different speeds to separate sticks. Most people don’t do it because it’s seen as unnecessary, though technically possible. Both channels must match in frequency. The idea of running in single channel usually applies when both channels have at least one memory module and memory usage is balanced. If you mix large amounts like 4GB on one channel and 16GB on another, you might end up with single-channel behavior, possibly due to AMD’s current support for dual-channel operation under certain memory configurations.
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iGrizzly
04-14-2023, 03:04 AM #4

On AMD systems you can't adjust settings per channel separately; each channel must share identical memory timings. Intel allows varying timings across different DIMMs, so you can assign different speeds to separate sticks. Most people don’t do it because it’s seen as unnecessary, though technically possible. Both channels must match in frequency. The idea of running in single channel usually applies when both channels have at least one memory module and memory usage is balanced. If you mix large amounts like 4GB on one channel and 16GB on another, you might end up with single-channel behavior, possibly due to AMD’s current support for dual-channel operation under certain memory configurations.

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AstrumXD
Junior Member
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04-14-2023, 08:48 AM
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Previously I tested a 1333 kit and it performed well next to a upgraded 1600 model. I’m curious about running my 3200 with a 16-20-20-40 at 3000 with 18-18-38. If I maintain the same minimum NS in theory, should it still work?
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AstrumXD
04-14-2023, 08:48 AM #5

Previously I tested a 1333 kit and it performed well next to a upgraded 1600 model. I’m curious about running my 3200 with a 16-20-20-40 at 3000 with 18-18-38. If I maintain the same minimum NS in theory, should it still work?

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_STEVE_HD_
Member
69
04-16-2023, 07:03 AM
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Likely yes. Even though most RAM has some extra capacity, using a higher voltage setup like 3200 CL16-20-20-40 with a 3000 kit should likely succeed.
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_STEVE_HD_
04-16-2023, 07:03 AM #6

Likely yes. Even though most RAM has some extra capacity, using a higher voltage setup like 3200 CL16-20-20-40 with a 3000 kit should likely succeed.

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mister_crafti
Junior Member
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04-18-2023, 02:05 AM
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mister_crafti
04-18-2023, 02:05 AM #7

I want to highlight the exceptional skill behind that artwork.

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saukeuchiuchi
Senior Member
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04-18-2023, 03:18 AM
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It didn’t function properly at the 3200 XMP level, but adjusting attention to timing details might improve results. I adjusted all sub-timings by scaling them using 3000/3200, then chose the best 3GHz and 3.2GHz timings for each. This allowed me to achieve a 3000 16-19-19-38 run and passed a 5-minute Linpack extreme test. For future attempts, I plan to reverse the process and slightly relax the 3GHz timing to align with the 3.2GHz setup at 3200MHz. Positive updates mean I OC’d the 3000 kit up to 3400 previously, though stress testing always caused errors within about 12 hours even at 3066MHz. Increasing voltage above 1.36V had little effect. If I manage to run it at 3200, I’ll need to verify it for three nights. It seems loosening the cas might help, but minor rounding losses could still matter. Going to 3600MHz could be a safer bet if timing differences remain consistent in nanoseconds.
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saukeuchiuchi
04-18-2023, 03:18 AM #8

It didn’t function properly at the 3200 XMP level, but adjusting attention to timing details might improve results. I adjusted all sub-timings by scaling them using 3000/3200, then chose the best 3GHz and 3.2GHz timings for each. This allowed me to achieve a 3000 16-19-19-38 run and passed a 5-minute Linpack extreme test. For future attempts, I plan to reverse the process and slightly relax the 3GHz timing to align with the 3.2GHz setup at 3200MHz. Positive updates mean I OC’d the 3000 kit up to 3400 previously, though stress testing always caused errors within about 12 hours even at 3066MHz. Increasing voltage above 1.36V had little effect. If I manage to run it at 3200, I’ll need to verify it for three nights. It seems loosening the cas might help, but minor rounding losses could still matter. Going to 3600MHz could be a safer bet if timing differences remain consistent in nanoseconds.

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Shanniee_
Member
104
04-18-2023, 04:59 AM
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This might mean your SOC voltage isn't sufficient, particularly with a 2600 rating as suggested by your setup. Consider adjusting it to 1.15V (the maximum you’d safely use daily with those chips), and aim for 3200 for long-term stability. Ideally, reaching 3600MT/s on a 4 DIMM board with a 2600 would be best, though it’s not practical. You can try it—it won’t damage components, but reaching that speed isn’t realistic. Even if timing is slightly relaxed, the higher FCLK will more than compensate. I’d prefer a 3600 CL20-24-24 configuration over 3200 CL16-18-18 on a Ryzen 2000, especially since both faced FCLK limitations. With Ryzen 3000/5000, it depends more on benchmarks, but I’d still lean toward the slightly looser 3600 if possible.
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Shanniee_
04-18-2023, 04:59 AM #9

This might mean your SOC voltage isn't sufficient, particularly with a 2600 rating as suggested by your setup. Consider adjusting it to 1.15V (the maximum you’d safely use daily with those chips), and aim for 3200 for long-term stability. Ideally, reaching 3600MT/s on a 4 DIMM board with a 2600 would be best, though it’s not practical. You can try it—it won’t damage components, but reaching that speed isn’t realistic. Even if timing is slightly relaxed, the higher FCLK will more than compensate. I’d prefer a 3600 CL20-24-24 configuration over 3200 CL16-18-18 on a Ryzen 2000, especially since both faced FCLK limitations. With Ryzen 3000/5000, it depends more on benchmarks, but I’d still lean toward the slightly looser 3600 if possible.