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There are many overclockers.

There are many overclockers.

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Its_Brian2002
Member
74
10-18-2023, 02:49 PM
#1
Hi,
I had a chat with friends about overclockers and debated whether they make up just a small group or a larger portion of gamers and PC users. I searched online but didn’t find much info. Anyone have suggestions on where to look?
Thanks!
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Its_Brian2002
10-18-2023, 02:49 PM #1

Hi,
I had a chat with friends about overclockers and debated whether they make up just a small group or a larger portion of gamers and PC users. I searched online but didn’t find much info. Anyone have suggestions on where to look?
Thanks!

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chef_pancake
Junior Member
17
10-18-2023, 02:57 PM
#2
Here’s what comes next, purely based on imagination and not as concrete evidence.
I’m making educated guesses about the numbers involved, just based on the choices we’re considering. It’s important to note that these are assumptions, not confirmed data. There’s no certainty behind any of these estimates.
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chef_pancake
10-18-2023, 02:57 PM #2

Here’s what comes next, purely based on imagination and not as concrete evidence.
I’m making educated guesses about the numbers involved, just based on the choices we’re considering. It’s important to note that these are assumptions, not confirmed data. There’s no certainty behind any of these estimates.

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thunderdog1111
Junior Member
13
10-18-2023, 04:50 PM
#3
I don't believe anyone is tracking stats, at least not anyone else! Just type "Overclock" into Google and see how well it performs!!! I've received around 12,300,000 hits, which is impressive for an OC.
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thunderdog1111
10-18-2023, 04:50 PM #3

I don't believe anyone is tracking stats, at least not anyone else! Just type "Overclock" into Google and see how well it performs!!! I've received around 12,300,000 hits, which is impressive for an OC.

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3Edge
Senior Member
718
10-20-2023, 04:49 PM
#4
What comes next is purely based on imagination and these numbers should never be considered definitive evidence or real data. I’m making educated guesses based on the choices made here. There’s no certainty that any of these figures actually occurred.

I see it this way. When overclocking was still a specialized field, only a small group truly understood it and how to implement it; when I say "a few," I mean tens of thousands. The challenge for enthusiasts was that the term was spreading, more people wanted to try it, often without understanding its implications or risks. They simply assumed a performance boost and jumped in.

The key question is when Intel, AMD, and motherboard makers decided it made sense to label chips differently, promote them widely, and shift market attention away from the original niche group. That’s exactly what transpired.

During the Pentium 4 era of Intel chip production, there were no variations in chip naming. It was simply a Pentium chip or not. There was no "P4K" chip in existence. Every chip could be overclocked to some extent—some significantly, others minimally, if at all. At that time, this wasn’t a priority for Intel. As long as performance stayed consistent with base speeds, it was acceptable.

However, the overclocking community expanded, and Intel saw an opportunity. A marketing expert realized they didn’t need to promise a specific overclock result; they could market their chips as capable of overclocking and charge more. To protect the original niche from being overtaken, artificial restrictions were introduced on processors, preventing non-overclocked models from being overclocked. This led to the emergence of the "K" versus "Non-K" processor segment.

Motherboard makers soon followed suit, establishing the "H" versus "Z" chipset market (though not necessarily the first version).

Ultimately, it comes down to when chip manufacturers find it financially viable. The reality is that today there are billions of computers worldwide, most of which are preassembled. A vast majority operate at standard speeds, yet still a significant number—likely less than half but increasing—continue to overclock at home.
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3Edge
10-20-2023, 04:49 PM #4

What comes next is purely based on imagination and these numbers should never be considered definitive evidence or real data. I’m making educated guesses based on the choices made here. There’s no certainty that any of these figures actually occurred.

I see it this way. When overclocking was still a specialized field, only a small group truly understood it and how to implement it; when I say "a few," I mean tens of thousands. The challenge for enthusiasts was that the term was spreading, more people wanted to try it, often without understanding its implications or risks. They simply assumed a performance boost and jumped in.

The key question is when Intel, AMD, and motherboard makers decided it made sense to label chips differently, promote them widely, and shift market attention away from the original niche group. That’s exactly what transpired.

During the Pentium 4 era of Intel chip production, there were no variations in chip naming. It was simply a Pentium chip or not. There was no "P4K" chip in existence. Every chip could be overclocked to some extent—some significantly, others minimally, if at all. At that time, this wasn’t a priority for Intel. As long as performance stayed consistent with base speeds, it was acceptable.

However, the overclocking community expanded, and Intel saw an opportunity. A marketing expert realized they didn’t need to promise a specific overclock result; they could market their chips as capable of overclocking and charge more. To protect the original niche from being overtaken, artificial restrictions were introduced on processors, preventing non-overclocked models from being overclocked. This led to the emergence of the "K" versus "Non-K" processor segment.

Motherboard makers soon followed suit, establishing the "H" versus "Z" chipset market (though not necessarily the first version).

Ultimately, it comes down to when chip manufacturers find it financially viable. The reality is that today there are billions of computers worldwide, most of which are preassembled. A vast majority operate at standard speeds, yet still a significant number—likely less than half but increasing—continue to overclock at home.

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Zoe89
Junior Member
4
10-28-2023, 02:21 PM
#5
Wolfshadw :
What follows in pure speculation and in no way are these figures listed as proof or actual numbers. They are merely presented as proofs of concept and in no way should be taken as exact figures. I'm guessing at numbers, but only assuming on the decisions made here. There is no proof that anything listed below actually happened.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A PROOF OF CONCEPT
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I look at it this way. Overclocking use to be a niche regime. Only a few people actually knew what it was and how to do it; and when I say "a few", I'm talking in the area of tens of thousands. The problem for overclockers was that word was getting out and more and more people were wanting to get into it; most without even bothering to learn what it meant or the consequences. They just heard "Free performance increase" and went all in.
The part you need to figure out is at what point do Intel, AMD, and motherboard manufacturers decide it's profitable to make the designation between chips, advertise it, and take the market away from that original niche crowd? Because, that's exactly what happened.
Back in the Pentium 4 phase of Intel chip processing, there were no differences in chip naming. It was a Pentium chip or it wasn't. There was no such thing as a P4K chip. All chips had the capability of being overclocked; some a great deal, some, only a tiny bit, if at all. Back then, that wasn't Intel's concern. As long as they all performed at their base speeds, it was good enough.
But the overclocking market grew and Intel found an opportunity. Some marketing genius over at Intel figured out, "Hey! We don't need to guarantee a specific overclock, but we can market it as an overclock capable processor, and charge a higher price!" They're getting the same product. We're just charging them more. Then, to keep the original niche market from destroying the market we stole from them, we'll introduce artificial limits on our processors, so our non-overclock processors cannot be overclocked at all and hence the "K" vs "Non-K" processor market was born.
Motherboard manufacturers soon followed suit and created the "H" vs "Z" chipset market (though not likely the first iteration).
Again, it all boils down to at what point does it become profitable for chip manufacturers. Fact of the matter is there are several billion home computers in use on the planet today. The vast majority of those computers are prebuilt computers (I'd say somewhere in the high ninetieth percentile). However, that still leaves several dozens of millions of computers that are being built at home. I would say, probably less than half of those (but growing) actively overclock.
-Wolf sends
Sounds personal. Sorry to hear.
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Zoe89
10-28-2023, 02:21 PM #5

Wolfshadw :
What follows in pure speculation and in no way are these figures listed as proof or actual numbers. They are merely presented as proofs of concept and in no way should be taken as exact figures. I'm guessing at numbers, but only assuming on the decisions made here. There is no proof that anything listed below actually happened.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A PROOF OF CONCEPT
.
I look at it this way. Overclocking use to be a niche regime. Only a few people actually knew what it was and how to do it; and when I say "a few", I'm talking in the area of tens of thousands. The problem for overclockers was that word was getting out and more and more people were wanting to get into it; most without even bothering to learn what it meant or the consequences. They just heard "Free performance increase" and went all in.
The part you need to figure out is at what point do Intel, AMD, and motherboard manufacturers decide it's profitable to make the designation between chips, advertise it, and take the market away from that original niche crowd? Because, that's exactly what happened.
Back in the Pentium 4 phase of Intel chip processing, there were no differences in chip naming. It was a Pentium chip or it wasn't. There was no such thing as a P4K chip. All chips had the capability of being overclocked; some a great deal, some, only a tiny bit, if at all. Back then, that wasn't Intel's concern. As long as they all performed at their base speeds, it was good enough.
But the overclocking market grew and Intel found an opportunity. Some marketing genius over at Intel figured out, "Hey! We don't need to guarantee a specific overclock, but we can market it as an overclock capable processor, and charge a higher price!" They're getting the same product. We're just charging them more. Then, to keep the original niche market from destroying the market we stole from them, we'll introduce artificial limits on our processors, so our non-overclock processors cannot be overclocked at all and hence the "K" vs "Non-K" processor market was born.
Motherboard manufacturers soon followed suit and created the "H" vs "Z" chipset market (though not likely the first iteration).
Again, it all boils down to at what point does it become profitable for chip manufacturers. Fact of the matter is there are several billion home computers in use on the planet today. The vast majority of those computers are prebuilt computers (I'd say somewhere in the high ninetieth percentile). However, that still leaves several dozens of millions of computers that are being built at home. I would say, probably less than half of those (but growing) actively overclock.
-Wolf sends
Sounds personal. Sorry to hear.

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Komodo88
Senior Member
749
11-15-2023, 12:02 PM
#6
Hey Wolf, your evaluation is solid but you need to explore even earlier technologies. In 368, 486, and Pentium1 chips, basic modifications like resistor adjustments and trace cuts could boost performance by a few kilohertz. AMD K5 processors saw a jump from 133MHz to 160 MHz. Athlon "Barton" cores were introduced in the first Black editions, with some offering unlocked multipliers or unlockable features via graphite pencil markings on the back. Always had innovators seeking better performance, even if it meant making significant mechanical changes like adding a spur under the saddle or enlarging the carburetor.
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Komodo88
11-15-2023, 12:02 PM #6

Hey Wolf, your evaluation is solid but you need to explore even earlier technologies. In 368, 486, and Pentium1 chips, basic modifications like resistor adjustments and trace cuts could boost performance by a few kilohertz. AMD K5 processors saw a jump from 133MHz to 160 MHz. Athlon "Barton" cores were introduced in the first Black editions, with some offering unlocked multipliers or unlockable features via graphite pencil markings on the back. Always had innovators seeking better performance, even if it meant making significant mechanical changes like adding a spur under the saddle or enlarging the carburetor.

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AwSoMe683
Member
50
11-15-2023, 01:00 PM
#7
aquielisunari :
Wolfshadw :
What follows in pure speculation and in no way are these figures listed as proof or actual numbers. They are merely presented as proofs of concept and in no way should be taken as exact figures. I'm guessing at numbers, but only assuming on the decisions made here. There is no proof that anything listed below actually happened.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A PROOF OF CONCEPT
.
I look at it this way. Overclocking use to be a niche regime. Only a few people actually knew what it was and how to do it; and when I say "a few", I'm talking in the area of tens of thousands. The problem for overclockers was that word was getting out and more and more people were wanting to get into it; most without even bothering to learn what it meant or the consequences. They just heard "Free performance increase" and went all in.
The part you need to figure out is at what point do Intel, AMD, and motherboard manufacturers decide it's profitable to make the designation between chips, advertise it, and take the market away from that original niche crowd? Because, that's exactly what happened.
Back in the Pentium 4 phase of Intel chip processing, there were no differences in chip naming. It was a Pentium chip or it wasn't. There was no such thing as a P4K chip. All chips had the capability of being overclocked; some a great deal, some, only a tiny bit, if at all. Back then, that wasn't Intel's concern. As long as they all performed at their base speeds, it was good enough.
But the overclocking market grew and Intel found an opportunity. Some marketing genius over at Intel figured out, "Hey! We don't need to guarantee a specific overclock, but we can market it as an overclock capable processor, and charge a higher price!" They're getting the same product. We're just charging them more. Then, to keep the original niche market from destroying the market we stole from them, we'll introduce artificial limits on our processors, so our non-overclock processors cannot be overclocked at all and hence the "K" vs "Non-K" processor market was born.
Motherboard manufacturers soon followed suit and created the "H" vs "Z" chipset market (though not likely the first iteration).
Again, it all boils down to at what point does it become profitable for chip manufacturers. Fact of the matter is there are several billion home computers in use on the planet today. The vast majority of those computers are prebuilt computers (I'd say somewhere in the high ninetieth percentile). However, that still leaves several dozens of millions of computers that are being built at home. I would say, probably less than half of those (but growing) actively overclock.
-Wolf sends
Sounds personal. Sorry to hear.
Nope. Not personal. The only thing I've ever attempted to overclock (if you can even call it that) was changing my AST 486 DX2-50 to a DX4-100 by adding what I could best describe as a daughter chip from Cyrix (if I remember correctly).
Otherwise, I've never overclocked anything else.
-Wolf sends
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AwSoMe683
11-15-2023, 01:00 PM #7

aquielisunari :
Wolfshadw :
What follows in pure speculation and in no way are these figures listed as proof or actual numbers. They are merely presented as proofs of concept and in no way should be taken as exact figures. I'm guessing at numbers, but only assuming on the decisions made here. There is no proof that anything listed below actually happened.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A PROOF OF CONCEPT
.
I look at it this way. Overclocking use to be a niche regime. Only a few people actually knew what it was and how to do it; and when I say "a few", I'm talking in the area of tens of thousands. The problem for overclockers was that word was getting out and more and more people were wanting to get into it; most without even bothering to learn what it meant or the consequences. They just heard "Free performance increase" and went all in.
The part you need to figure out is at what point do Intel, AMD, and motherboard manufacturers decide it's profitable to make the designation between chips, advertise it, and take the market away from that original niche crowd? Because, that's exactly what happened.
Back in the Pentium 4 phase of Intel chip processing, there were no differences in chip naming. It was a Pentium chip or it wasn't. There was no such thing as a P4K chip. All chips had the capability of being overclocked; some a great deal, some, only a tiny bit, if at all. Back then, that wasn't Intel's concern. As long as they all performed at their base speeds, it was good enough.
But the overclocking market grew and Intel found an opportunity. Some marketing genius over at Intel figured out, "Hey! We don't need to guarantee a specific overclock, but we can market it as an overclock capable processor, and charge a higher price!" They're getting the same product. We're just charging them more. Then, to keep the original niche market from destroying the market we stole from them, we'll introduce artificial limits on our processors, so our non-overclock processors cannot be overclocked at all and hence the "K" vs "Non-K" processor market was born.
Motherboard manufacturers soon followed suit and created the "H" vs "Z" chipset market (though not likely the first iteration).
Again, it all boils down to at what point does it become profitable for chip manufacturers. Fact of the matter is there are several billion home computers in use on the planet today. The vast majority of those computers are prebuilt computers (I'd say somewhere in the high ninetieth percentile). However, that still leaves several dozens of millions of computers that are being built at home. I would say, probably less than half of those (but growing) actively overclock.
-Wolf sends
Sounds personal. Sorry to hear.
Nope. Not personal. The only thing I've ever attempted to overclock (if you can even call it that) was changing my AST 486 DX2-50 to a DX4-100 by adding what I could best describe as a daughter chip from Cyrix (if I remember correctly).
Otherwise, I've never overclocked anything else.
-Wolf sends

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169
11-17-2023, 02:59 AM
#8
Overclocking is enjoyable and I think it deserves to be part of the Olympics.
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ArianaGrandeJr
11-17-2023, 02:59 AM #8

Overclocking is enjoyable and I think it deserves to be part of the Olympics.