F5F Stay Refreshed Power Users Networks The setup instructions are clear and appropriate for configuring a whole-home network.

The setup instructions are clear and appropriate for configuring a whole-home network.

The setup instructions are clear and appropriate for configuring a whole-home network.

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Earth_And_Fire
Junior Member
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05-05-2021, 05:11 AM
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They’re planning to expand their network by adding many Ethernet runs beyond just a few. Initially, they seem to have limited connections for the main areas like bedrooms and living rooms. My aim is to create a scalable setup with several ports for future needs. I want a small server or NAS in either the mechanical room or garage, feeding a 4K projector and three TVs throughout the house. I also plan to install two WiFi 6E access points, likely hidden in closets at opposite ends of the 1900 sq ft home. Three to four PoE security cameras will be added, along with a high-speed 1Gb cable connection until fiber arrives—then it could support up to 2Gb if needed. My idea is that even if all connections end in the mechanical room, there might not be enough space for additional equipment later. I’m considering using the Ubiquiti Dream Machine Special Edition Internet via a 2.5 GbE WAN port, with patch cables to power over Ethernet devices. This should provide either a full 1Gb or 2Gb connection to WiFi and PoE devices. The patch cable from the Dream Machine’s LAN 10G SFP+ could link to a 10GbE PoE SFP+ (Gen1) switch, giving me four ports of up to 10GbE. This would support a NAS/media server and allow hardwired connections in rooms where WiFi speed isn’t sufficient. Does this approach align with your vision?
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Earth_And_Fire
05-05-2021, 05:11 AM #1

They’re planning to expand their network by adding many Ethernet runs beyond just a few. Initially, they seem to have limited connections for the main areas like bedrooms and living rooms. My aim is to create a scalable setup with several ports for future needs. I want a small server or NAS in either the mechanical room or garage, feeding a 4K projector and three TVs throughout the house. I also plan to install two WiFi 6E access points, likely hidden in closets at opposite ends of the 1900 sq ft home. Three to four PoE security cameras will be added, along with a high-speed 1Gb cable connection until fiber arrives—then it could support up to 2Gb if needed. My idea is that even if all connections end in the mechanical room, there might not be enough space for additional equipment later. I’m considering using the Ubiquiti Dream Machine Special Edition Internet via a 2.5 GbE WAN port, with patch cables to power over Ethernet devices. This should provide either a full 1Gb or 2Gb connection to WiFi and PoE devices. The patch cable from the Dream Machine’s LAN 10G SFP+ could link to a 10GbE PoE SFP+ (Gen1) switch, giving me four ports of up to 10GbE. This would support a NAS/media server and allow hardwired connections in rooms where WiFi speed isn’t sufficient. Does this approach align with your vision?

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Linus_TechTips
Junior Member
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05-05-2021, 07:09 AM
#2
Alternatively, you could achieve this more affordably and quickly. Using an Enterprise 8 PoE with a 10 GbE PoE SFP+ Gen1 switch. Connect the internet via one of the Enterprise 8 ports on its 2.5GbE ports with PoE to power two WiFi access points and three cameras. Use a 10G SFP+ patch cable from the Enterprise 8 to the 10 GbE Gen1 switch for a hardwired 10G network. For Ubiquiti, you likely won’t need a gateway or advanced threat detection—just the access points and routing. Ring POE cameras would be a simpler option for family members.
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Linus_TechTips
05-05-2021, 07:09 AM #2

Alternatively, you could achieve this more affordably and quickly. Using an Enterprise 8 PoE with a 10 GbE PoE SFP+ Gen1 switch. Connect the internet via one of the Enterprise 8 ports on its 2.5GbE ports with PoE to power two WiFi access points and three cameras. Use a 10G SFP+ patch cable from the Enterprise 8 to the 10 GbE Gen1 switch for a hardwired 10G network. For Ubiquiti, you likely won’t need a gateway or advanced threat detection—just the access points and routing. Ring POE cameras would be a simpler option for family members.

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SlushieMagic
Member
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05-07-2021, 12:16 PM
#3
You'll need a router setup. The UDM comes with a built-in router, which is convenient. You could also use a pfSense device or another option if preferred. A L3 switch might work as a router, but likely not ideal. You'll require a controller for managing Unifi services. The UDM includes one, or you can install one on most PCs. I usually prefer a unified system, but flexibility is possible with brands like MikroTik for switches.
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SlushieMagic
05-07-2021, 12:16 PM #3

You'll need a router setup. The UDM comes with a built-in router, which is convenient. You could also use a pfSense device or another option if preferred. A L3 switch might work as a router, but likely not ideal. You'll require a controller for managing Unifi services. The UDM includes one, or you can install one on most PCs. I usually prefer a unified system, but flexibility is possible with brands like MikroTik for switches.

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XenkerPT
Member
158
05-11-2021, 07:20 AM
#4
The initial situation could function as planned. Those ports linked to the WiFi access points would need to exceed 1Gig, which should already provide sufficient speed today. Just five years ahead, things might change, but it’s uncertain.
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XenkerPT
05-11-2021, 07:20 AM #4

The initial situation could function as planned. Those ports linked to the WiFi access points would need to exceed 1Gig, which should already provide sufficient speed today. Just five years ahead, things might change, but it’s uncertain.

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05-11-2021, 08:36 AM
#5
When using the UDM-Pro SE, note that its 8-port Gigabit switch only provides a 1Gbps connection to/from the router section. Inside the switch, it operates at full wire speed for every port. If you aim for speeds beyond 1Gbps, consider upgrading to a switch that supports SFP+ uplinks between the UDM-Pro SE and the switch. For the WiFi 6E APs, ensure you connect the PoE++ ports on the UDM-Pro SE—typically Ports 1 and 2. Otherwise, devices may restart unexpectedly. The device includes built-in networking controller; no external software is required. You can remove unused camera or other programs if they aren't needed. The Dream Machine doesn’t need management from a PC controller. For external control, you’ll need a UXG-Pro (premium model) and a separate switch.
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CrimsonGuard34
05-11-2021, 08:36 AM #5

When using the UDM-Pro SE, note that its 8-port Gigabit switch only provides a 1Gbps connection to/from the router section. Inside the switch, it operates at full wire speed for every port. If you aim for speeds beyond 1Gbps, consider upgrading to a switch that supports SFP+ uplinks between the UDM-Pro SE and the switch. For the WiFi 6E APs, ensure you connect the PoE++ ports on the UDM-Pro SE—typically Ports 1 and 2. Otherwise, devices may restart unexpectedly. The device includes built-in networking controller; no external software is required. You can remove unused camera or other programs if they aren't needed. The Dream Machine doesn’t need management from a PC controller. For external control, you’ll need a UXG-Pro (premium model) and a separate switch.

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TheDogs_
Junior Member
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05-11-2021, 01:57 PM
#6
The situation is becoming increasingly complex. I understand this requires high-level expertise, which I’m familiar with, but the initial setup was quite challenging. I’m unlikely to reach 1Gbps within the next five years (about a decade), yet I aim to establish a network capable of 10Gbps locally—even if current Wi-Fi won’t support that speed or most devices run at 2.5G. The local infrastructure can quickly become restrictive once you hit 1GbE.
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TheDogs_
05-11-2021, 01:57 PM #6

The situation is becoming increasingly complex. I understand this requires high-level expertise, which I’m familiar with, but the initial setup was quite challenging. I’m unlikely to reach 1Gbps within the next five years (about a decade), yet I aim to establish a network capable of 10Gbps locally—even if current Wi-Fi won’t support that speed or most devices run at 2.5G. The local infrastructure can quickly become restrictive once you hit 1GbE.

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YourPassword
Member
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05-18-2021, 11:03 PM
#7
Some what similar setup currently at my house. 10Gig internal network is something planned in the future, but really none of my end devices can take advantage of it. I run a Nvidia shield to my Home Theater/Projector, and it caps at 1Gig. Seems like the UDM Pro SE will cover a lot of your bases. It has POE to run your cameras and APs. Doesn't leave many ports leftover for expandability. I filled that gap with a 24 POE Unifi switch, with a plan to grab their 10Gig aggregation switch in the future. I like to think of it as "What is my upgrade path", rather than future proofing. Easier for my wallet!
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YourPassword
05-18-2021, 11:03 PM #7

Some what similar setup currently at my house. 10Gig internal network is something planned in the future, but really none of my end devices can take advantage of it. I run a Nvidia shield to my Home Theater/Projector, and it caps at 1Gig. Seems like the UDM Pro SE will cover a lot of your bases. It has POE to run your cameras and APs. Doesn't leave many ports leftover for expandability. I filled that gap with a 24 POE Unifi switch, with a plan to grab their 10Gig aggregation switch in the future. I like to think of it as "What is my upgrade path", rather than future proofing. Easier for my wallet!

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Abiworsey
Member
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05-19-2021, 07:35 AM
#8
It's not quite accurate. Ubiquiti leans more toward the enthusiast side rather than the enterprise side. This doesn’t mean it’s inferior, but often the idea that it’s business-grade equipment can be frustrating. They don’t offer many features typical of true enterprise solutions, such as robust logging tools, structured software updates, or a reliable backplane connection between devices. Also, the 1Gbps backplane sounds impressive on paper but tends to break down under real-world use. I find it hard to accept that such speed is necessary. Sometimes stepping back helps—asking whether you truly need it or just want it because it sounds impressive. For me, 1Gbps feels more than enough for my needs. I’m a moderate user; my home internet caps at 250Mbps, and streaming 4K videos locally often tops 100Mbps. My 39GB copy of Lord of the Rings averages about 24.7Mbps. Theoretically, I could stream three 4K streams over 100Mbps without issues, leaving plenty of room. Of course, I often hit bottlenecks with my slower connections in other parts of my network. Right now, I’m constrained by the 1Gbps link while moving 400GB of AI training data between drives. But it doesn’t matter if I’m only getting 1Gbps—it’s not urgent, and the delay won’t affect the outcome.
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Abiworsey
05-19-2021, 07:35 AM #8

It's not quite accurate. Ubiquiti leans more toward the enthusiast side rather than the enterprise side. This doesn’t mean it’s inferior, but often the idea that it’s business-grade equipment can be frustrating. They don’t offer many features typical of true enterprise solutions, such as robust logging tools, structured software updates, or a reliable backplane connection between devices. Also, the 1Gbps backplane sounds impressive on paper but tends to break down under real-world use. I find it hard to accept that such speed is necessary. Sometimes stepping back helps—asking whether you truly need it or just want it because it sounds impressive. For me, 1Gbps feels more than enough for my needs. I’m a moderate user; my home internet caps at 250Mbps, and streaming 4K videos locally often tops 100Mbps. My 39GB copy of Lord of the Rings averages about 24.7Mbps. Theoretically, I could stream three 4K streams over 100Mbps without issues, leaving plenty of room. Of course, I often hit bottlenecks with my slower connections in other parts of my network. Right now, I’m constrained by the 1Gbps link while moving 400GB of AI training data between drives. But it doesn’t matter if I’m only getting 1Gbps—it’s not urgent, and the delay won’t affect the outcome.

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s3tBR
Member
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05-20-2021, 11:20 PM
#9
That's a valid observation... focusing on the top speed might overlook practical considerations. The installation challenges, like running cables through walls, could be handled later. I think a Dream Machine Special Edition with two APs would suffice for a 1Gbps setup. It seems the DMSE should support managing and configuring those APs. The investment looks reasonable at around $1050 for the Dream Machine plus the APs. Adding a switch in the future could be done via 10G SFP+ if the switch supports it.
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s3tBR
05-20-2021, 11:20 PM #9

That's a valid observation... focusing on the top speed might overlook practical considerations. The installation challenges, like running cables through walls, could be handled later. I think a Dream Machine Special Edition with two APs would suffice for a 1Gbps setup. It seems the DMSE should support managing and configuring those APs. The investment looks reasonable at around $1050 for the Dream Machine plus the APs. Adding a switch in the future could be done via 10G SFP+ if the switch supports it.

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05-24-2021, 03:37 AM
#10
The dream machine SE fulfills your requests. Remember the U6 enterprise APs feature 2.5 gb ports, while the dream machine SE's POE switch offers a 1gb uplink to WAN. I operate the dream machine pro SE with a U6 lite and achieve near-gigabit speeds over Wi-Fi. The 10gb SFP+ WAN port can serve as a LAN port, enabling connections between two 10gb devices. I use my NAS on one device and my personal PC on another. With a DAC cable linking the NAS and a pre-made fiber SFTP+ cable connecting the other PC through the attic into the wall, you're set. Three POE cameras are installed, and I strongly suggest using Ubiquiti cameras—they’re straightforward to configure and their app performs well. You might also want an outdoor AP for optimal performance. These APs function most effectively when mounted on ceilings.
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anima_messorem
05-24-2021, 03:37 AM #10

The dream machine SE fulfills your requests. Remember the U6 enterprise APs feature 2.5 gb ports, while the dream machine SE's POE switch offers a 1gb uplink to WAN. I operate the dream machine pro SE with a U6 lite and achieve near-gigabit speeds over Wi-Fi. The 10gb SFP+ WAN port can serve as a LAN port, enabling connections between two 10gb devices. I use my NAS on one device and my personal PC on another. With a DAC cable linking the NAS and a pre-made fiber SFTP+ cable connecting the other PC through the attic into the wall, you're set. Three POE cameras are installed, and I strongly suggest using Ubiquiti cameras—they’re straightforward to configure and their app performs well. You might also want an outdoor AP for optimal performance. These APs function most effectively when mounted on ceilings.

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