The PCp system stops working 10 seconds after starting.
The PCp system stops working 10 seconds after starting.
I attempted to lower the clock speed of my Ryzen 9 7900 with MSI center's profile configurator, but I mistakenly omitted the parentheses and ended up with an incorrect setting. This caused an immediate black screen. After rebooting, the PC took a long time to start and crashed after about ten seconds. I tried enabling PBO and disabling Expo, but nothing resolved the issue. When the system boots, I notice my clock speeds increase to 5,10GHz, then it goes black and restarts. I require urgent assistance since I’m unsure what else to try... Motherboard: msi x670-pro wifi
CPU: ryzen 9 7900
To clarify how impressive my error was, I adjusted the clock speeds to 3050 while attempting to lower it to 30,50 under the customized profile... My CPU was idling at 70°C which seemed unusual given my GPU was at 45°C (well-known for its heat issues with the RTX3080) and I simply wanted to reduce its temperature since I wouldn’t be using the PC for the next few hours.
I’m not currently at my main location and don’t have a fresh Windows installation with me, I hope there’s a simpler solution available.
First things first is to get rid of MSI Center, uninstall it. It's the follow-on to MSI Dragon Center which was pure garbage and all accounts make this one equal levels of garbage coding. Hopefully when uninstalled it completely removes itself, especially any services that it installed. Otherwise you should chase them down and remove...quite likely using "SC /delete" from command prompt with admin rights. Considering what has happened elsewhere it's quite likely one or more of them are essentially back doors that phone home at every bootup.
Then, reset CMOS. It's not clear from the post whether this is a new build where that's something you should have done anyway. But since MSI Center was fiddling with things in an indeterminate manner it's best to just start with a clean slate and resetting CMOS will do that for you. Actually, this may be needed first in order to get into Windows long enough to un-install Center.
If you really need to use a Windows based method of tweaking CPU or memory overclocks install AMD's Ryzenmaster utility. But much preferred is to do it in BIOS.
And last: abandon any ideas of fixed frequency/voltage overclocking (unless using sub-ambient cooling methods). It's been true since 3rd Gen and it's especially true with 5th gen CPU's: PBO is the best way, with Curve Optimizer for per-core undervolting. These CPU's are already being pushed to their thermal limits in stock configuration by their boost algorithm so there's no tolerance left for a fixed OC to work safely.
Even after resetting the CMOS, the MSI Center app didn’t stop functioning. So I decided to launch the uninstaller by exploring the folders and locating it before the PC would freeze or crash. As soon as I pressed uninstall, my CPU returned to its default unlocked speeds. Booting into safe mode wasn’t possible for any reason.
Noticing no improvement even after resetting CMOS and adjusting BIOS settings to prevent overclocking, I considered a fresh Windows installation. I faced numerous issues with MSI Dragon Center when using a 3600X processor, hoping a new app would resolve the problems. MSI Center is essentially a downgrade compared to Dragon Center.
The build wasn’t entirely new; I’ve been using it for a few months, mainly to monitor everything from one place. That’s another downgrade since the monitoring delays are noticeable.
Additionally, my motivation for an overclock was to lower the fan speeds slightly because it was late at night and my internet speed required multiple nights of idling to download games. I used this approach with my Ryzen 3600X before saving up to buy a Scytha Fuma 2 cooler, which I still use today.
In short, if anyone else encounters this issue, please uninstall MSI Center from safe mode. If you can’t boot into safe mode, try the steps I followed. Don’t forget to remove the CMOS battery for any further BIOS resets that other apps might affect.
Get HWINfo64 for comprehensive monitoring...temperatures, core clocks, voltages, activity levels, fans, and more. The GPU is included too, all in one area. Ryzenmaster works but lacks the thoroughness of HWInfo64.
To manage fans, simply adjust the BIOS fan profiles. I keep a low fan speed around 65 or 70°C, which prevents unnecessary boosts during idle. The exact setting depends on your desired quietness; quieter fans allow higher speeds.